"972", Please join me; I can use the company....

[dayag]

...Conclusion:
ANNEX ALL THE LAND BELONGING TO ISRAEL: Gaza + East bank of Jordan river, even better - all lands stretching from Euphrates river to Mediterranean sea (as defined in the Holly Bible). Exterminate all leftist, expel all foreigners from Israel - arabs first (as requested by the Holly Bible).
OR - DIE!

No one in Israel would support such an evil agenda. You are like a bad stereotype of the lies our enemies make up about us. I can only assume you are an agent provacateur trying to make us look bad.

We are not going to conquer Jordan, Lebanon, and Syria and take all the land between Israel and the Euphrates. Nor are we going to murder millions of Jews merely because they are leftists. And the only way we would expel the Arabs would be in an extreme conflict where Israel's survival was threatened and they were acting as a fifth column impeding our ability to defend ourselves.

[Mediocrates]

All the 972niks should be offered the choice to become Palestinian nationals, dual nationals even. They could use a process by which they are given Palestinian citizenship and their Israeli citizenship would be terminated after 1 or 2 years following. At which time they have to relocate to their new homeland and whatever other requirements that entails; converting to Islam, for example. At at that point barred entry to Israel for life.

Or they could be offered the Helen Thomas solution and be relocated to Russia, Poland and such. Either way I'm sure they and everyone else would be happier.

[calev dan]

completely disagree!
calculate what is cheaper: to feed or to kill - best solution for all leftists!

[dayag]

completely disagree!
calculate what is cheaper: to feed or to kill - best solution for all leftists!

Cheaper doesn't matter. It is immoral. No one in Israel would support such a "solution."

[Aliyah1995]

I have to agree with Dayag. We are NOT some chaotic third world country.

[williedj]

Hello

[Kachah]

completely disagree!
calculate what is cheaper: to feed or to kill - best solution for all leftists!

What is the difference then between you and the leftists? The leftists would have killed the opposition off - if they could - and in many places they actually did like Nazi Germany or the USSR.
Now you claim you are from the right and advocate the same approach. M-mm?
Expelling of "foreigners" - define foreigner first. Last time official blanket expulsion of foreigners was committed by His Excellency Field Marshal Idi Amin Dada, the King of Scotland. I am not really sure if we are keen to follow in his steps.

But - annexing land is not necesserely tantamount to the genocide on the people who dwell on it. Perhaps annexing some parts will make sense and send the right message.

[calev dan]

to mr. dayag
"I can only assume you are an agent provacateur (provocateur?) trying to make us look bad"

- zeev jabotinski also was a provocateur, i am in good company, i guess.
and i don't have to make you look bad - just open your eyes, look around.
"Cheaper doesn't matter. It is immoral"
- my grandfather was a big moralist, he died in treblinka.

to mr. allyah1995
"We are NOT some chaotic third world country"
- i saw it.
i didn't find favor with the shabak, the araps - do. illegal arap building everywhere is ok, legal jewish building on the land of forefathers - not.

to mr. kachah
- don't take it as an offense. with your nickname, are you immitating KACH of rabbi Kahana זצ"ל?

but, i guess, enough arguing. have a good life - join the 927.

[dayag]

to mr. dayag
"I can only assume you are an agent provacateur (provocateur?) trying to make us look bad"

- zeev jabotinski also was a provocateur, i am in good company, i guess.
and i don't have to make you look bad - just open your eyes, look around.
"Cheaper doesn't matter. It is immoral"
- my grandfather was a big moralist, he died in treblinka.
....

Zeev Jabotinsky may have been provocative, but he was not an "agent provocateur." He did not do the things he did to make Jews look bad. Everything he did was to make our people safe. He did not try to exterminate fellow Jews with whom he disagreed. Remember that it was "Sinat Hinam" that led to the loss of the Second Temple and our long exile.

May your grandfather's memory be for a blessing.

[Kachah]

to mr. kachah
- don't take it as an offense. with your nickname, are you immitating KACH of rabbi Kahana זצ"ל?

No, and it's KahanE. What's that got to do with anything?

but, i guess, enough arguing. have a good life - join the 927.

Thanks for your direction and Shana Tova to you too.

[Reffo]

There is nothing 972 columnists hate more than when you make a good point. If you make a really good point they will ban you immediately. I have seen it before. It's just not worth it. A better site to go to is tabletmag.com. They claim to be a centrist Jewish online mag but many of their writers are pure lefties and critical of Israel. The difference is most of the people reading the site are centrist/right-wing and constantly criticize the writers and they take it! I have not seen anyone threaten to get banned

You mentioned that Lisa Goldman is one of the worst offenders over there. Of course you turned out to be 100% right about her. Not that I doubted you, but I like to verify things for myself.

As it turned out, she started out her encounter with me by telling me to shut up
It just got worse from there. After a few counter jibes from me, she started lecturing me about how I stifle intelligent debate. Then she invited me to stop posting on her channel.
Yea ... Right ... "Intelligent debate", I told her that on her channel, that concept is an oxymoron. Then I obliged her.

As for the other bloggers/moderators whatever we choose to call them, some of them are ok. At least they allowed me to say what I want even though I am sure that they vehemently disagree with me on just about everything. At least they have the decency to allow me to post my opinions. Even Yossi Gurvitz, who initially went into reflexive delete mode when I first started posting there. But in all fairness, I was fairly hostile with him when he maligned Maimonides and the Jewish religion. I did get personal about it because I felt he overstepped the bounds of decency. Of course he then reacted but I have no regrets about it he deserved it at the time. But for now, he seems to have settled down and didn't delete any of my posts.

But back to Lisa. Yala, you were 100% right about her. She is an intolerant bigot.

[Mediocrates]

So after being banned by Salon about 40 times they finally figured out a way to make me work too hard eg create new Google accounts each time their new commenting system throws me off. So I threw in the towel and went to HuffPo where the hate is strong and so far they print about 2 out 5 from me which is ok and I have like 3 fans of my own! Woo hoo.

[Reffo]

They claim to be humanists, they preach tolerance and the brotherhood of mankind. Yet when it comes to Israel and Jews, it seems that at least some of them, lose all decency and balance.

[Reffo]

For the record, this is what happened with Lisa Goldman ...

Well, for starters, how about checkpoints, land confiscations, arbitrary arrests, military trials that are effectively kangaroo courts, arbitrary beatings at the hands of Israeli security forces and settlers, a life without civil rights or legal recourse, night raids by the army, destruction of water cisterns, destruction of homes, no freedom of movement and…

Recognise the pattern? One sided demonization of Israel, amounting to incitement.

To balance things a bit, I responded to her with ...

Yea Lisa, now read this too …
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http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_...uicide_attacks
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How about talking about both sides of the ledger Lisa? We both know that this has been a low intensity war waged by both sides against one another for over 6 decades. A war which was … dare I say it ? Was started and continued at the insistence of your Palestinian Arabs. And if your counter argument will be “Shut up Bosko” … Then I will urge you to read the Hamas charter.
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Shalom to you Lisa

She then got all huffed up and uppity ... She suggested that I stifle "intelligent debate", an oxymoron if ever I heard one, in her case. She couldn't even see that all I was doing was putting a bit of balance back to her one sided narrative. But she couldn't take it.

I would hate to live in a world in which her kind would grab a hold of the reins of power. I think I would seriously contemplate doing away with myself rather than put up with fascists like her.

[Aliyah1995]

Well, to 972's credit they still haven't banned me even after Deir Yassin (and to a lesser extent "Kibbutznik") tried to get me banned by "spilling the beans" by posting this thread on their site. Hey Deir Yassin, if you are still lurking on our site (and this thread in particular), have the guts to post here, rather than just stalk my posts

Two columnists I respect on that site (even while disagreeing with their politics) are Dahlia and Ami Kaufman.

The rest, well I guess they do let me post on their channels, so I have to give them that.

Lisa does seem to have an axe to grind with Israel and those of us living over the "green line" in particular, even more so than Yossi. Yossi, on the other hand, seems to have more of an axe to grind with Judaism, but to his credit he never even edited, let alone deleted any of my posts.