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    abu afak
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    May It Not Happen Again!

    May It Not Happen Again!
    Jan Willem van der Hoeven

    Saddam Hussein grew up in the shadow of a giant portrait that hung on the wall of his father's house, a portrait of a man his father adored above every other political leader. It was the face of Adolph Hitler! Writing in Inside Asia, John Gunther said: "The greatest contemporary hero in the Arab world is Hitler." Even Anwar Sadat, a man deemed by many in the West to be a moderate Arab leader, as a young man wrote the following words to the leader of the Third Reich:

    "My dear Hitler, I congratulate you from the bottom of my heart. Even if you appear to have been defeated, in reality you are the victor. You succeeded in creating dissensions between Churchill, the old man, and his allies, the Sons of Satan. Germany will win because her existence is necessary to preserve the world balance. Germany will be reborn in spite of the Western and Eastern powers. There will be no peace unless Germany once again becomes what she was."

    Anis Mansour, editor of the Egyptian magazine October and a Sadat confidant who accompanied the Egyptian leader to Jerusalem wrote: "The world is now aware of the fact that Hitler was right, and that the cremation ovens were the appropriate means of punishing [the Jews]."

    Hitler's book, Mein Kampf, is still required reading in various Arab capitals and universities, and is widely distributed by others. And as Shmuel Katz writes in The Hollow Peace: "The Arab attitude is pointedly and incisively expressed in modern Arabic literature, which is chock-full of unbridled hatred of Israel, of Zionism and of the Jewish people. The idea of the destruction of Israel is expressed in hundreds of books published on the subject of the dispute itself, and anti-Israeli and anti-Zionist teaching has been incorporated in school text-books, even, improbably enough, in arithmetic books."

    The only reason that the Arabs have not yet done to the Israeli Jews what Hitler did to their forefathers in Europe is that they have thus far lacked the military means and weapons of mass destruction which were at Hitler's disposal. Had there not been an Israeli Army to defend the remnant of European Jewry that immigrated to Israel, the Arabs would have gladly fulfilled Hitler's dream a long time ago by finishing off those Jews the Nazi megalomaniac had left alive.

    This deeply entrenched hatred of the Jews and love for Hitler and the Nazis surfaced during the time of one of the first Palestinian leaders, the Grand Mufti Haj Amin el Husseini, during the 1930s. As Hitler's guest in Germany, the Mufti said on Berlin radio: "Kill the Jews--kill them with your hands, kill them with your teeth--this is well pleasing to Allah!"

    No, contrary to popular belief, the crux of the Middle East problem has never been the Palestinian Arab problem. It has been and still is the Palestinian Jewish problem. It was this problem that had to be solved by the Arabs. They have used the Palestinian Arabs as their front and excuse to achieve their Hitler-like goal: the extinction of a sovereign Jewish nation in their Muslim midst. .."""

    Ex From and read the rest at http://www.afsi.org/OUTPOST/2001MAR/mar5.htm
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    That article seems a little suspect to me. Saddam Husseins father, depending on who you believed died before he was born or deserted him before he was a year old. Infact, Saddam would probably not be alive today if it wasn't for the kindness of an Iraqi Jewish family (now living in Israel), who helped his mother through the difficult period just before he was born, when she tried to kill herself and also attempted to abort him. Also Saddam Husseins personal hero is Josef Stalin (not any better than Hitler I suppose).

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    .....Saddam would probably not be alive today if it wasn't for the kindness of an Iraqi Jewish family (now living in Israel), who helped his mother through the difficult period just before he was born, when she tried to kill herself and also attempted to abort him.
    There must be a special place in hell reserved for those guys!!


    Also Saddam Husseins personal hero is Josef Stalin (not any better than Hitler I suppose).
    Duh.....ya think!?

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    Originally posted by MichaelC
    There must be a special place in hell reserved for those guys!!
    I find this extremely offensive. How were they suppose to be psychic and know that the baby they would save would be an evil person?

    Hashem doesn't reward kindness with Gehinem. You'd do well to remember that.

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    Micah, I think Micheal C is being ironic, as rather than actually making a point, he prefers to use innuendo .

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    Originally posted by Micah
    I find this extremely offensive. How were they suppose to be psychic and know that the baby they would save would be an evil person?

    Hashem doesn't reward kindness with Gehinem. You'd do well to remember that.
    Lighten up Micah.

    You think it wouldn't be better that savage was dead this minute? You really think it wouldn't have been better for him to have left before he got here?

    By the way, You speaking for G-d now?

    Wow!

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    Misplaced pronouns I think - who is the 'they' that deserve to be in hell? I think we have some confusion about that.

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    Originally posted by Mediocrates
    Misplaced pronouns I think - who is the 'they' that deserve to be in hell? I think we have some confusion about that.
    jcsd came the closest. I was being ironic, though I do not consider the irony to have been accomplished by innuendo.

    I did not think a worn adage like," there must be a place reserved in hell for........" was open to misinterpretation. If I have offended anyone's deeply held religious sensibilities, I apologize. Where I come from, this is a common expression not open to much misunderstanding.

    The couple who preserved Saddam's life thereby assuring the world of plenty of trouble are obviously not to blame for his subsequent stature as a threat to millions, but I certainly do wonder at the irony of it.

    I still maintain that speaking for the Divine in my general direction is a bit of a stretch.

    And, speaking of confusion sown by the use of unfamiliar words, phrases, idioms, etc, what does Gehinem mean?

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    Gehenna - one name given for what could loosely be called Jewish hell though it's a pretty different place than Milton's "Pandemonium".

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    Arab Debate on Wife Beating

    hey guys, check out this interesting debate between arabs.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nUI3TUdFCk

    Doesnt that confirm the correctness of this translation:

    Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great.


    The woman had great points. Like do men always have the better judgement?

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    I'm guessing they don't sell a lot of guns to women.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mediocrates View Post
    I'm guessing they don't sell a lot of guns to women.
    I wonder what would happen, if a woman came to a car retailer and wanted to buy a car. Laughter or penalty?

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    I wonder what would happen if you gave them a few million handguns. Probably end this radical nonsense in 60 days.

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    Beating one's wife (as opposed to wife beating) is very clearly stated in Quran as part of the process of dealing with the non-obeying wife.

    This doesn't mean that Mulisms should beat their wife routinely or that all Muslims are wife-beaters, but Islam does certainly prescribe it if needed.

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    Amazing the number of non-Muslims experts on what the teachings of Islam are.

    Keep chanting to yourself that your evil thoughts are true and maybe that will make it so... right?

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