I inserted some of my responses here in italics in the box below.
[B]Too bad almost every other country in the world totally disagrees with you (other than the U.S.). The difference between defense and aggression is pretty obvious to me. When someone throws a ROCK at your TANK and you return fire with a rifle or a mortar shel, THAT is aggression, not defense. If the TANK wasn't there, neither would the rock-thrower. When the PEOPLE who's COUNTRY you ILLEGALLY OCCUPY have no legal recourse to fight for their rights, then I have a nice quote for you "You reap what you sow". If you sow hatred, you reap hatred.Originally posted by Mediocrates
No you're just being hyperbolic. Your're just a few adjectives from zionism is nazism, genocide, ethnic cleansing.........
Okay, how's this: To non-Jews, Zionism is genocide, ethnic cleansing, and racism.
As opposed to laying down to die for the sake of people who would cheer anyway? We said "Never Again". We sincerely and with our whole souls meant both of those words and the PLO will get nowhere until they too understand that.
So those are the only two options? Either fight back with tanks and missiles vs rocks or "lay down and die". What color is the sky in this simplistic world of yours? And what is this "Never Again"? When was the first time?
Actually in the Mish Patim or civil code inside of Exodus and Deuteronomy that phrase means "making the punishment fit the crime" to borrow a phrase from the Mikado. It's about justice and equity, not revenge. And it is vitally important in this day and age to make that distinction. The Israelis will defend themselves, they will not lay down. And that is not the same thing as aggression no matter what the 'conflict resolution' world view thinks. Giving in to terrorism is not peace no matter how bedraggled and miserable terrorists appear.
Not that I am trying to justify some wacko blowing himself up in a crowded mall to kill innocents, but I also cannot justify the subjugation of a whole people on the basis of Zionist racist rhetoric.
An example of subjugation? I'm glad you asked.
The PCBS figures released in April 2002 indicate that more than two-thirds of Palestinian households were living below the poverty line (1651 NIS, approximately US$340/month) in the first two months of the year 2002. In the West Bank, 57.8% of households were below the poverty line, while in the Gaza Strip the figure reached 84.6%.
Translating these figures into an individual level, more than two-thirds of the Palestinian population is living on less that $1.90 a day.
DCI/PS stresses that these figures indicate a disproportionate affect of poverty on children for three reasons:
1) More than half of Palestinian society is children. 53% of the Palestinian population is below the age of 18 years.
2) Moreover, fifty percent of Palestinians live in households of 9 members or more while the mean household size is about 7.0 persons. Mean household size is slightly higher in Gaza (7.8) than in the West Bank (6.6) persons. For this reason, high poverty rates in the Gaza Strip indicate that a greater proportion of children are living in poverty.
3) The areas most affected by Israeli closure also have the highest number of children. In Gaza City for example, more than half of the population is aged between 0-14 years old. In Khan Yunis refugee camp in the south of the Gaza Strip, 49.9% of the population is aged 14 years or younger. These areas are also the most severely affected by Israeli closure policies. Consequently, in both these areas unemployment amongst the adult population reaches 1/3 of the active labor force.
The PCBS statistics indicate that more than half of Palestinian households have lost more than 50% of their income since September 2000.