Turkey Dumps Israeli UAVs for Local Drones - Which Keep Crashing

[dayag]

Like the Nazis, the Turks are rejecting Jewish Science. Very funny that their own drones keep crashing.

Ankara has decided to produce as many of its own weapons as possible, including UAVs. So Turkey, according to Defense News, made a strategic decision to ground its Israeli UAVs and produce its own version of the pilotless patrol planes. And following the government's directive, Turkish Aerospace Industries (TAI) promptly designed and produced a home-grown Turkish UAV – the Anka, which the government hoped would fulfill Turkey's needs for UAVs; perhaps Ankara would even be able to develop an industry around the craft.

Only one problem, though; so far, every prototype Anka that TAI has produced has crashed.

source: http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Ne...3#.To2fuJTk-uI

[Cellis]

Very funny that their own drones keep crashing

Wow. Uber mega super wow...

Would you mind naming one UAV that has not had a crash, specially in prototype phase?

If you follow TAI's tests carefully, you will realize that anka has crashed on the runway.

And, do not get me started with numerous Heron crashes all around the world on the sexiest terrains and climates.

Like the Nazis, the Turks are rejecting Jewish Science.

hmm... I disagree. Common logic says Turkey is looking for a cheaper solution. Would Israel ever buy American predators?
You may hate the administration and their political ideals but aviation is something beyond these all political garbage.

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Dear David Lev. Thank you for making my day and making me laugh really hard. Apparently your IQ is lower than my shoe size, buddy.

Here is the real story:

In late December, the first Anka completed its debut flight with 14 minutes of cruising. In early May it flew for 90 minutes. Last week the aircraft flew even longer. But the authorities have faced landing problems. In all three cases, the vehicles crash-landed, partly destroying the aircraft. One defense analyst suggested that while landing the wind under the aircraft’s vast wings disturbed its balance and, as the landing gears are so close to each other, forced the vehicle to land on one of its wings.

[Aliyah1995]

Like the Nazis, the Turks are rejecting Jewish Science. Very funny that their own drones keep crashing.



source: http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Ne...3#.To2fuJTk-uI

[Cellis]

Nice, maybe I should collect over 20 Heron crashes and "LOL" at them. 4 prototype crashes versus over 20 mass production crashes look really "LOL".

[Mediocrates]

Israel does use some US drones. And the US uses a large # of Israeli drones.

The key problem with the Heron drones going to Turkey is that Turkey insisted they use Turkish electro optics to replace the Elbit equipment. The engineering obstacle was that the Turkish gear weighed about 300Kg more than the Elbit gear. This caused significant performance, stability and endurance problems which were never entirely solved. I suspect that what you see with the Turkish development problems are the same problems as before. They're trying to use their own electro optics in a reverse engineered Heron type drone modified to accommodate the extra payload. The solution is ultimately to start from scratch with a larger airframe.

Look at it from a cost efficiency perspective. What is a drone? It's an airplane you can keep in the air a long time without having to worry about a flight crew, at a lower cost. If you can solve that problem with a 'regular' airplane and robotic controls, there's one approach. Israel has that solution as well; stuffing robotics into a Gulfstream jet and flying it remotely. In fact that kind of platform is actually better suited for some jobs where you need to get a plane to a target quickly. Maybe Turkey should do that.

[Cellis]

Comparing the atmosphere and landscape of both countries, I see the modifications pretty reasonable. As you wrote, they should start from scratch. Flying over turkish-iraqi border is like driving a ferrari in sahara desert. The main needs are high altitude and good optics. Basicly drones need to fly over high altitudes thus they'll need better optics to see through difficulties created by the climate there, right? Descending will either result as crash into mountains or they will be easily shot by mid-long range combat rifles.
Again, not mocking the optics of Herons or aerodynamics, but, Herons are much easier to fly over Israeli soil. The landscape and the climate is a heaven for any sort of flight there.
About the gear replacements. They were planning to make it capable of landing on rougher runways. I'll keep writing about the gear when I come back to home...

[farmboy]

Can't anyone see the larger picture here? All this money is being spent on military hardware to protect countries from fellow members of the UNITED nations. The King has no clothes, The King has no clothes, The King has no clothes, The King has no clothes, The King has no clothes, The King has no clothes.
We so much need an organisation of Civilised nations to stop all this bullshit.

[Aliyah1995]

We so much need an organisation of Civilised nations to stop all this bullshit.

Israel, United States, Canada, Australia, New Zealand. Aside from them, who else?

[Kachah]

When was it anyone else?

[dayag]

Israel, United States, Canada, Australia, New Zealand. Aside from them, who else?

Don't leave out our good friends in Micronesia, the Marshall Islands, and Palau!

[Mediocrates]

NZ? Not so much. If Ben and Jerry's Icecream were a country it would be New Zealand

[farmboy]

Israel, United States, Canada, Australia, New Zealand. Aside from them, who else?

It's sad when you can't think of a trustworthy European country. Has their PC dragged them so far down into the morass of false morality?

[Kachah]

Well, I'll still back good old England... yeah, yeah, it's not completely Europe - or, perhaps, BECAUSE it is still not completely Europe.
I actually thought that some Eastern Europeans might have some marbles in their heads - you know, the Czechs, the Bulgarians...but no, that ship has sailed, they are too damaged and insecure.

[Cellis]

Bad karma:

2 american rq-170 crashed in a month and I don't see you people making fun of american technology. epic fail...

[Mediocrates]

2 out of what? 40,000 sorties?