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    Batman
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    Moslem Scholarship On Israel Peace Treaty

    Islamic Legal Ruling Regarding
    Participation in the Madrid Conference
    Islamic Legal Ruling Regarding Participation in the Madrid Conference

    below are excerpts of rulings:

    [QUOTE]It is forbidden to participate in the Madrid Conference because its goal is to sign a peace treaty with Israel, to legalize it as a State ..........First, all messages and messengers were sent by God to realize justice and right, but the existence of Israel is against this aim as mentioned in Holy Qur’an............Allah instructs the Muslims not to be submissive, and call for peace only when they are the superior power. He reminds them also that He is with them always and He will never deprive them of their rewards for their deeds. Muslims are superior simply because they enjoin the Right, which attitude will always succeed in giving the Muslims the advantage to surpass others..............all the Islamic scholars have agreed that any peace treaty humiliates Muslims..............the peace deal almost cancels Al-Jihad, which is an important act and it should be continued by all Muslims until the Day of Judgement as Prophet Muhammed (peace be upon him) has said..............the Muslim scholars allow a temporary truce with the enemy, not a permanent peace treaty. The temporary peace treaty is legal if the Muslim Caliph approves it; however, a permanent peace treaty has not been permitted by any scholar.................the Muslim Caliph, appointed by a Muslim majority, is the only one who is authorized to sign any truce agreement for the benefit of all Muslims, but not a permanent peace treaty or any contract for that matter which legalizes something that is already forbidden. The contract is illegal even if it has been signed by the Caliph himself, so how about the present Muslim rulers who are concerned with their own interests, proud of others’ civilizations, predate the wealth and potential of all Muslims, and then bargain with the Muslims’ God-given rights?
    ..........In accordance with the above-mentioned points of proof, participation in the Madrid Conference is forbidden because its goal is to reach a permanent peace treaty with Israel. ........

    This peace is considered a big sin and betrayal to Allah Ta’ala, as well as the Prophet (peace be upon him). Finally, the peace treaty is legally, rationally, morally and conventionally nullified and Muslims are not obliged to observe this treaty. On the contrary, they have the right to reject it and deal with the matter according to the public benefit of all Muslims in the present and future.

    We have already been notified; Allah is our Witness!

    Muslim Scholars Conference

    The Holy Al-Aqsa Mosque

    Friday, 24 Rabee’ I, 1412 (1 November 1991).

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    [1] All references to the Holy Qur’an have been taken from the Interpretation of the Meanings of The Noble Qur’an in the English Language, by Dr. Muhammad Taqi-ud-Din Al-Hillali and Dr. Muhammad Muhsin Khan, 1993.
    Last edited by Batman; 12-18-2002 at 09:36 AM.

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    Batman
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    Question re: HAMAS USE OF KORANIC VERSES


    Does anyone know what the Moslem scholarship says about the way these Koranic quotes are being used by Hamas?


    The Avalon Project at Yale Law School

    Hamas Covenant 1988
    The Covenant
    of the
    Islamic Resistance Movement
    18 August 1988
    In The Name Of The Most Merciful Allah

    "Ye are the best nation that hath been raised up unto mankind: ye command that which is just, and ye forbid that which is unjust, and ye believe in Allah. And if they who have received the scriptures had believed, it had surely been the better for them: there are believers among them, but the greater part of them are transgressors. They shall not hurt you, unless with a slight hurt; and if they fight against you, they shall turn their backs to you, and they shall not be helped. They are smitten with vileness wheresoever they are found; unless they obtain security by entering into a treaty with Allah, and a treaty with men; and they draw on themselves indignation from Allah, and they are afflicted with poverty. This they suffer, because they disbelieved the signs of Allah, and slew the prophets unjustly; this, because they were rebellious, and transgressed." (Al-Imran - verses 109-111).

    Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it" (The Martyr, Imam Hassan al-Banna, of blessed memory).

    "The Islamic world is on fire. Each of us should pour some water, no matter how little, to extinguish whatever one can without waiting for the others." (Sheikh Amjad al-Zahawi, of blessed memory).

    ................................................

    Some Excerpted Articles


    Structure and Formation

    Article Three:
    The basic structure of the Islamic Resistance Movement consists of Moslems who have given their allegiance to Allah whom they truly worship, - "I have created the jinn and humans only for the purpose of worshipping" - who know their duty towards themselves, their families and country. In all that, they fear Allah and raise the banner of Jihad in the face of the oppressors, so that they would rid the land and the people of their uncleanliness, vileness and evils.

    "But we will oppose truth to vanity, and it shall confound the same; and behold, it shall vanish away." (Prophets - verse 18).
    Article Four:
    The Islamic Resistance Movement welcomes every Moslem who embraces its faith, ideology, follows its programme, keeps its secrets, and wants to belong to its ranks and carry out the duty. Allah will certainly reward such one.

    Time and Place Extent of the Islamic Resistance Movement:

    Article Five:
    Time extent of the Islamic Resistance Movement: By adopting Islam as its way of life, the Movement goes back to the time of the birth of the Islamic message, of the righteous ancestor, for Allah is its target, the Prophet is its example and the Koran is its constitution. Its extent in place is anywhere that there are Moslems who embrace Islam as their way of life everywhere in the globe. This being so, it extends to the depth of the earth and reaches out to the heaven.

    "Dost thou not see how Allah putteth forth a parable; representing a good word, as a good tree, whose root is firmly fixed in the earth, and whose branches reach unto heaven; which bringeth forth its fruit in all seasons, by the will of its Lord? Allah propoundeth parables unto men, that they may be instructed." (Abraham - verses 24-25).
    Characteristics and Independence:

    Article Six:
    The Islamic Resistance Movement is a distinguished Palestinian movement, whose allegiance is to Allah, and whose way of life is Islam. It strives to raise the banner of Allah over every inch of Palestine, for under the wing of Islam followers of all religions can coexist in security and safety where their lives, possessions and rights are concerned. In the absence of Islam, strife will be rife, oppression spreads, evil prevails and schisms and wars will break out.

    How excellent was the Moslem poet, Mohamed Ikbal, when he wrote:

    "If faith is lost, there is no security and there is no life for him who does not adhere to religion. He who accepts life without religion, has taken annihilation as his companion for life."
    The Universality of the Islamic Resistance Movement:

    Article Seven:
    As a result of the fact that those Moslems who adhere to the ways of the Islamic Resistance Movement spread all over the world, rally support for it and its stands, strive towards enhancing its struggle, the Movement is a universal one. It is well-equipped for that because of the clarity of its ideology, the nobility of its aim and the loftiness of its objectives.

    On this basis, the Movement should be viewed and evaluated, and its role be recognised. He who denies its right, evades supporting it and turns a blind eye to facts, whether intentionally or unintentionally, would awaken to see that events have overtaken him and with no logic to justify his attitude. One should certainly learn from past examples.

    The injustice of next-of-kin is harder to bear than the smite of the Indian sword.

    "We have also sent down unto thee the book of the Koran with truth, confirming that scripture which was revealed before it; and preserving the same safe from corruption. Judge therefore between them according to that which Allah hath revealed; and follow not their desires, by swerving from the truth which hath come unto thee. Unto every of you have we given a law, and an open path; and if Allah had pleased, he had surely made you one people; but he hath thought it fit to give you different laws, that he might try you in that which he hath given you respectively. Therefore strive to excel each other in good works; unto Allah shall ye all return, and then will he declare unto you that concerning which ye have disagreed." (The Table, verse 48).
    The Islamic Resistance Movement is one of the links in the chain of the struggle against the Zionist invaders. It goes back to 1939, to the emergence of the martyr Izz al-Din al Kissam and his brethren the fighters, members of Moslem Brotherhood. It goes on to reach out and become one with another chain that includes the struggle of the Palestinians and Moslem Brotherhood in the 1948 war and the Jihad operations of the Moslem Brotherhood in 1968 and after.

    Moreover, if the links have been distant from each other and if obstacles, placed by those who are the lackeys of Zionism in the way of the fighters obstructed the continuation of the struggle, the Islamic Resistance Movement aspires to the realisation of Allah's promise, no matter how long that should take. The Prophet, Allah bless him and grant him salvation, has said:

    "The Day of Judgement will not come about until Moslems fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Moslems, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree, (evidently a certain kind of tree) would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews." (related by al-Bukhari and Moslem).

  3. #3
    richcrassus
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    Re: Question re: HAMAS USE OF KORANIC VERSES

    Originally posted by Batman

    Does anyone know what the Moslem scholarship says about the way these Koranic quotes are being used by Hamas?


    The Avalon Project at Yale Law School

    Hamas Covenant 1988
    The Covenant
    of the
    Islamic Resistance Movement
    18 August 1988
    In The Name Of The Most Merciful Allah

    "Ye are the best nation that hath been raised up unto mankind: ye command that which is just, and ye forbid that which is unjust, and ye believe in Allah. And if they who have received the scriptures had believed, it had surely been the better for them: there are believers among them, but the greater part of them are transgressors. They shall not hurt you, unless with a slight hurt; and if they fight against you, they shall turn their backs to you, and they shall not be helped. They are smitten with vileness wheresoever they are found; unless they obtain security by entering into a treaty with Allah, and a treaty with men; and they draw on themselves indignation from Allah, and they are afflicted with poverty. This they suffer, because they disbelieved the signs of Allah, and slew the prophets unjustly; this, because they were rebellious, and transgressed." (Al-Imran - verses 109-111).

    Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it" (The Martyr, Imam Hassan al-Banna, of blessed memory).

    "The Islamic world is on fire. Each of us should pour some water, no matter how little, to extinguish whatever one can without waiting for the others." (Sheikh Amjad al-Zahawi, of blessed memory).

    ................................................

    Some Excerpted Articles


    Structure and Formation

    Article Three:
    The basic structure of the Islamic Resistance Movement consists of Moslems who have given their allegiance to Allah whom they truly worship, - "I have created the jinn and humans only for the purpose of worshipping" - who know their duty towards themselves, their families and country. In all that, they fear Allah and raise the banner of Jihad in the face of the oppressors, so that they would rid the land and the people of their uncleanliness, vileness and evils.

    "But we will oppose truth to vanity, and it shall confound the same; and behold, it shall vanish away." (Prophets - verse 18).
    Article Four:
    The Islamic Resistance Movement welcomes every Moslem who embraces its faith, ideology, follows its programme, keeps its secrets, and wants to belong to its ranks and carry out the duty. Allah will certainly reward such one.

    Time and Place Extent of the Islamic Resistance Movement:

    Article Five:
    Time extent of the Islamic Resistance Movement: By adopting Islam as its way of life, the Movement goes back to the time of the birth of the Islamic message, of the righteous ancestor, for Allah is its target, the Prophet is its example and the Koran is its constitution. Its extent in place is anywhere that there are Moslems who embrace Islam as their way of life everywhere in the globe. This being so, it extends to the depth of the earth and reaches out to the heaven.

    "Dost thou not see how Allah putteth forth a parable; representing a good word, as a good tree, whose root is firmly fixed in the earth, and whose branches reach unto heaven; which bringeth forth its fruit in all seasons, by the will of its Lord? Allah propoundeth parables unto men, that they may be instructed." (Abraham - verses 24-25).
    Characteristics and Independence:

    Article Six:
    The Islamic Resistance Movement is a distinguished Palestinian movement, whose allegiance is to Allah, and whose way of life is Islam. It strives to raise the banner of Allah over every inch of Palestine, for under the wing of Islam followers of all religions can coexist in security and safety where their lives, possessions and rights are concerned. In the absence of Islam, strife will be rife, oppression spreads, evil prevails and schisms and wars will break out.

    How excellent was the Moslem poet, Mohamed Ikbal, when he wrote:

    "If faith is lost, there is no security and there is no life for him who does not adhere to religion. He who accepts life without religion, has taken annihilation as his companion for life."
    The Universality of the Islamic Resistance Movement:

    Article Seven:
    As a result of the fact that those Moslems who adhere to the ways of the Islamic Resistance Movement spread all over the world, rally support for it and its stands, strive towards enhancing its struggle, the Movement is a universal one. It is well-equipped for that because of the clarity of its ideology, the nobility of its aim and the loftiness of its objectives.

    On this basis, the Movement should be viewed and evaluated, and its role be recognised. He who denies its right, evades supporting it and turns a blind eye to facts, whether intentionally or unintentionally, would awaken to see that events have overtaken him and with no logic to justify his attitude. One should certainly learn from past examples.

    The injustice of next-of-kin is harder to bear than the smite of the Indian sword.

    "We have also sent down unto thee the book of the Koran with truth, confirming that scripture which was revealed before it; and preserving the same safe from corruption. Judge therefore between them according to that which Allah hath revealed; and follow not their desires, by swerving from the truth which hath come unto thee. Unto every of you have we given a law, and an open path; and if Allah had pleased, he had surely made you one people; but he hath thought it fit to give you different laws, that he might try you in that which he hath given you respectively. Therefore strive to excel each other in good works; unto Allah shall ye all return, and then will he declare unto you that concerning which ye have disagreed." (The Table, verse 48).
    The Islamic Resistance Movement is one of the links in the chain of the struggle against the Zionist invaders. It goes back to 1939, to the emergence of the martyr Izz al-Din al Kissam and his brethren the fighters, members of Moslem Brotherhood. It goes on to reach out and become one with another chain that includes the struggle of the Palestinians and Moslem Brotherhood in the 1948 war and the Jihad operations of the Moslem Brotherhood in 1968 and after.

    Moreover, if the links have been distant from each other and if obstacles, placed by those who are the lackeys of Zionism in the way of the fighters obstructed the continuation of the struggle, the Islamic Resistance Movement aspires to the realisation of Allah's promise, no matter how long that should take. The Prophet, Allah bless him and grant him salvation, has said:

    "The Day of Judgement will not come about until Moslems fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Moslems, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree, (evidently a certain kind of tree) would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews." (related by al-Bukhari and Moslem).

    Talk like that makes me wanna build a huge spaceship pack it full of all the muslims on earth and give it a course straight towards to SUN.

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    richcrassus
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    Re: Question re: HAMAS USE OF KORANIC VERSES

    "The Day of Judgement will not come about until Moslems fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Moslems, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree, (evidently a certain kind of tree) would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews." (related by al-Bukhari and Moslem). [/B][/QUOTE]


    TRUE PEACE WILL ONLY COME WHEN EVERY LAST MOSLEM IS DEAD, THATS MY QUOTE.

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    richcrassus
    Guest

    Re: Question re: MUSLIMS USE OF KORANIC VERSES

    "The Day of Judgement will not come about until Moslems fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Moslems, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree, (evidently a certain kind of tree) would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews." (related by al-Bukhari and Moslem). [/B][/QUOTE]


    TRUE PEACE WILL ONLY COME TO THE EARTH WHEN EVERY LAST ANTI SEMITE IS DEAD,(that could mean billions dead in a nuclear holocaust)than gods chosen people (us) will rule the world free from people who want to destroy us, we the jews will only live truly free when all those that hate us are dead.(not just the arabs)
    THATS MY QUOTE.

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    Batman
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    Re: Re: Question re: MUSLIMS USE OF KORANIC VERSES

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    TRUE PEACE WILL ONLY COME WHEN EVERY LAST MOSLEM IS DEAD, THATS MY QUOTE.
    Talk like that makes me wanna build a huge spaceship pack it full of all the muslims on earth and give it a course straight towards to SUN.


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    Batman
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    Originally posted by strategist
    the Islamic Resistance Movement aspires to the realisation of Allah's promise, no matter how long that should take. The Prophet, Allah bless him and grant him salvation, has said:

    "The Day of Judgement will not come about until Moslems fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Moslems, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree, (evidently a certain kind of tree) would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews." (related by al-Bukhari and Moslem).
    The text reads: "We will use the skulls of Zion's sons to build a bridge to Heaven." This call for genocide was issued by Hamas, not from Gaza, but from Sweden, where for some time now they have been operating here:
    (from stairway to heaven, in Photo section)

    visual bond

    Last edited by Batman; 12-19-2002 at 05:34 AM.

  9. #9
    ayesha
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    Originally posted by Batman
    (from stairway to heaven, in Photo section)

    visual bond

    Does it not say in the Old Testament something to the effect of 'Blessed are those who smash the heads of the babies of Babylon against the wall of Zion.' Maybe that's where the inspiration was drawn from.

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    Batman
    Guest
    Originally posted by ayesha
    Does it not say in the Old Testament something to the effect of 'Blessed are those who smash the heads of the babies of Babylon against the wall of Zion.' Maybe that's where the inspiration was drawn from.
    Why can't the inspiration be drawn from the Islamic Scholars who are quoted all over the 1st & 2nd posts I posted?

    The Militant Islamists who created these horrible images and words obviously do not need any help from anyone else in encouraging their people to seek the destruction of Israel and Jews.

    The above phrase you are referring to is not from the Old Testament.
    I will not share any information with you on its origins since your intent is obviously cynical. However, whoever is feeding you the information is intent on misleading the audience to jump to the conclusion you have made, I can assure you.

    Why do you find it necessary to apologize and practically defend the terrible message of the pictures and words?

    Also: Back to my 2nd post question:Does anyone know what the Moslem scholarship says about the way these Koranic quotes are being used by Hamas?
    Last edited by Batman; 12-19-2002 at 12:49 PM.

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