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    Report of the quid pro quo for the Egyptian hostages

    Albeit reported in the Arab press but

    From news article:

    Citing an al-Arabiya report in Arabic, Robert Spencer reports that the United States has offered to trade
    Sheikh Omar Abdul Rahman
    , who is imprisoned in the United States for a conviction stemming from the first (1993) World Trade Center bombing, along with 49 other Egyptians being held in American prisons, for the 19 Americans currently being held in Egypt on charges of promoting democracy.
    Al-Arabiya is reporting, in Arabic only so far, that the U.S. is talking with the Egyptian government to free the blind Sheikh and 49 other Egyptians currently imprisoned in the U.S. in exchange for the freedom of the 19 Americans the Egyptians are holding.



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    Re: Report of the quid pro quo for the Egyptian hostages

    If this is true,the Americans being held in Egypt are not prisoners,they are hostages and ANYONE visiting Egypt runs the risk of false imprisonment.
    When this fact becomes common knowledge, the only industry that Egypt has, tourism, will completely dry up, and no amount of American aid will help them.

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    Re: Report of the quid pro quo for the Egyptian hostages

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    You are absolutely right but these people are not exactly renown for rational pragmatic action. They act out of visceral hatred and self promotion (they care tiddley squat about the the rest of the country - Egypt). And when tourism dies out even more than it already has, they will attempt to use it as further propaganda. They will blame the Zionists for it.
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    Re: Report of the quid pro quo for the Egyptian hostages

    Quote Originally Posted by Reffo View Post
    farmboy

    You are absolutely right but these people are not exactly renown for rational pragmatic action. They act out of visceral hatred and self promotion (they care tiddley squat about the the rest of the country - Egypt). And when tourism dies out even more than it already has, they will attempt to use it as further propaganda. They will blame the Zionists for it.
    The problem I see is that the west has too many radical liberals who are all too willing to submit for a short term quiet life. The squeeky wheel gets the grease and none squeek louder than these cowards, who want to throw the towel in at the first sign of a problem. It becomes a very noisy contest between the tyranical regimes and liberal fools who vote themselves as our spokes persons.
    They cant see and refuse to understand the legacy they are leaving for their grand kids.
    As the American President I would have dropped 10,000 troops into Cairo and taught the #*#*#*'s what they get for messing with the Yanks.
    But then luke warm Obama is an invertibrate and wouldn't want to upset his moslem buddies now would he?

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    Re: Report of the quid pro quo for the Egyptian hostages

    World war 2 was the last war that the west waged to win. Since then, the west is terrified by two spectres:

    1. High casualties be it civilian or army on either side.
    2. Being bogged down in an endless conflict.


    Of course, item 2 is a natural consequence of item 1. And under the corcumstances, I don't blame ordinary western folk for trying to avoid wars at ALL cost. After all, why should they sacrifice their own lives and those of their loved ones when they know full well that they cannot win the war not because they are too weak to win a war but because their society and their government hasn't got the WILL to win the war, no matter what the cost. Even though most of that cost would be worn by their enemies if they would be willing to wage the war to WIN rather than to participate in a cricket match. A cricket match in which only the west is playing by the rules while the other side ignores all rules. (I hope I am making myself clear what I mean by "cricket match" in the context of this topic?).
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    Re: Report of the quid pro quo for the Egyptian hostages

    Just to underline what I said above. I am absolutely convinced that the allies would never have won WW2 if they would have waged the war by today's rules. The Japanese and Nazi Germany would have been the victors. Then where would the rule books of today be?

    Unfortunatly, if we are not careful, we may find the answer to that question in a generation or two after the world would be forced to accept the yoke of Islam headed by the new Arab elites. That is not science fiction, remember there are 350 million Arabs controlling vast territories and backed up by 1.3 billion subservient Muslims (the Arabs created Islam first and foremost to benefit themselves - everything is geared up to that end).
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    Re: Report of the quid pro quo for the Egyptian hostages

    Today it was reported that each American was ransomed or bailed out for $330,000 each (2 million Egyptian pounds).
    http://israelmatzav.blogspot.com/201...ivists-to.html

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    Re: Report of the quid pro quo for the Egyptian hostages

    Egypt: Christians, Actors Targeted as Islam Rises
    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Ne...4#.T1IHn3n8-vU
    As Islamist parties gain power in Egypt, the country has seen a wave of lawsuits accusing various figures of “insulting Islam.” In the latest case, a group of lawyers belonging to the Muslim Brotherhood have accused high-profile Egyptian women of provocative behavior.

    The lawyers argue that the women “encourage sexuality and other inappropriate behaviors.”
    This is so "Animal Farm" I can smell the pigs.

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    Re: Report of the quid pro quo for the Egyptian hostages

    Well it's safe to say that when non Muslims become the oppressed threatened minorities openly hunted and herded that the west will also have nothing to say because they don't have anything to say about anything Muslims do ever. Anyway 8 million Copts is too large a number for any election year government to deal with. They'll take the cowards' way and arm 'the insurgents' and let them start a bloody civil war on their own.

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