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    Obama: I'm Not Bluffing About Iran

    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Ne...6#.T1ICsXn8-vU
    Ahead of his meeting with Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu at the White House on Monday, President Barack Obama is saying that he will order the U.S. military to destroy Iran's nuclear program if economic sanctions fail to compel Tehran to shelve its nuclear ambitions.

    Speaking to Jeffrey Goldberg of The Atlantic, in the most extensive interview he has given about the looming Iran crisis, Obama said that both Iran and Israel should take seriously the possibility of American action against Iran's nuclear facilities.
    He added, “I also don’t, as a matter of sound policy, go around advertising exactly what our intentions are. But I think both the Iranian and the Israeli governments recognize that when the United States says it is unacceptable for Iran to have a nuclear weapon, we mean what we say.

    “When I say this is in the U.S. interest, I'm not saying this is something we'd like to solve,” Obama said. “I’m saying this is something we have to solve.”
    I hope that this is not just rhetoric.
    He must have read the post where I refered to him as an invertibrate and borrowed a backbone from someone.

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    Re: Obama: I'm Not Bluffing About Iran

    He's not bluffing - he's lying.

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    Re: Obama: I'm Not Bluffing About Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by Mediocrates View Post
    He's not bluffing - he's lying.

    If Iran gets a nuke under Obama's watch, I hope that he at least writes Iran a stern letter.

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    Re: Obama: I'm Not Bluffing About Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by Mediocrates View Post
    He's not bluffing - he's lying.
    Says you.

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    Re: Obama: I'm Not Bluffing About Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by Pleepleus View Post
    Says you.
    There is zero probability that Obama will do anything about Iran in an election year and less than zero probability he will do anything when he no longer has to run for office. Obama wants to go down in history as the American President who finally 'solved' the Jewish question in the mideast by radically shrinking the size of Israel if not outright elimination.

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    Re: Obama: I'm Not Bluffing About Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by Mediocrates View Post
    There is zero probability that Obama will do anything about Iran in an election year and less than zero probability he will do anything when he no longer has to run for office. Obama wants to go down in history as the American President who finally 'solved' the Jewish question in the mideast by radically shrinking the size of Israel if not outright elimination.
    Presidential approval ratings usually go up when the country goes to war, so the fact that it is an election year (only for 8 more months) does not really matter.

    And you are wrong about Obama. He is NOT the anti-Semite you make him out to be. He is committed to Israel's security and preventing the Iranians from obtaining nuclear weapons.

    From Obama's speech to AIPAC today:

    "I have kept my commitments to the State of Israel," he said. "At every crucial juncture, at every fork in the road, we have been there for Israel every single time."
    http://www.jpost.com/DiplomacyAndPol...aspx?id=260418

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    President Peres had this to say about Obama at the AIPAC meeting:

    Speaking at the pro-Israel lobby group AIPAC's policy conference in Washington, Peres said that "there is no space" between the U.S. and Israel on Iran policy.

    "The United States and Israel share the same goal, to prevent Iran from developing a nuclear weapon," Peres said...

    Peres praised Obama for his policies that have included the imposition of economic and political sanctions on Iran.

    "President Obama made it clear that the U.S. will not permit Iran to become nuclear," Peres said, adding that Obama has also made it clear that "all options are on the table".

    Peres talked about his meetings with U.S. presidents over the years, both Democrats and Republicans. He said that U.S. support for Israel has been bipartisan and that Israel is grateful for that support.

    Peres said that Obama's care and devotion to Israel's security have been evident.

    "Mr. President, I know your commitment to Israel is deep and profound," Peres said. "Under your leadership, security cooperation between the U.S. and Israel has reached its highest level. Ladies and gentlemen, we have a friend in the White House. He reflects the values that make American great and make Israel secure. Thank you President Obama on behalf of my people."...
    source: http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomac...issue-1.416395

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    Re: Obama: I'm Not Bluffing About Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by Pleepleus View Post
    President Peres had this to say about Obama at the AIPAC meeting:
    We have to remember that Peres is now quite senile. He has some strange idea that he is still PM and meddles in affairs out of his jurisdiction.
    The sooner he is put out to grass the better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by farmboy View Post
    We have to remember that Peres is now quite senile. He has some strange idea that he is still PM and meddles in affairs out of his jurisdiction.
    The sooner he is put out to grass the better.
    Saying he is senile does not prove him wrong.

    Obama has agreed to sell Israel F35 Joint Strike Fighter jets, something Bush refused to do. US troops are having joint exercises with Israel. Obama has backed up Israel at the UN. Obama's actions match his words. He is a friend to Israel.

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    Obama has agreed to sell Israel F35 Joint Strike Fighter jets, something Bush refused to do. US troops are having joint exercises with Israel. Obama has backed up Israel at the UN. Obama's actions match his words. He is a friend to Israel.
    It's common knowledge that Obama is a weapons peddler and that he has sold armaments to every arab state in the middle east. This has been quoted as being the most volatile region on earth so do we commend him for maintaining the ballance of power and making a quick buck in the process. Agreeing to do something in the future is not actually the same as doing something. As for Obamas actions matching his words thats also quite a joke when you think about it if you mean that by actions he used more words in the UN. I think what you meant was that his words matched his words.
    Obama is a master when it comes to leading people on and letting them believe what he said was what they wanted to hear.
    Check this out.
    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Ne...1#.T1PUXXn8-vU
    The 30-minute video entitled “Daylight: The Story of Obama and Israel,” claims that while Obama maintained a “pro-Israel” platform in the 2008 presidential elections, three years later, supporters of Israel not only question his commitment, but many have also alleged that he has “done more to de-legitimize and undermine and Israel’s position in the world than any other president."
    ECI also calls on the pro-Israel lobby to remember the inherent disconnect between Obama’s promises and administrative policies.
    Watch the vid and end your delusion.
    Saying he is senile does not prove him wrong.
    no but he has his agenda.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qkSe4YM7EY
    Last edited by farmboy; 03-04-2012 at 01:11 PM.

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    like ive said before israel and the USA have 2 very different reasons for taking out Iran

    1.) for israel its to stop iran destroying israel with nuclear weapons and finishing what hitler started.

    2.) for the USA its about getting their hands on irans very very valuable oil and gas reserves.

    these are i truly believe are israels and the usa's main reasons, as you can see they are quite different.
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    Re: Obama: I'm Not Bluffing About Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by JerichoMissile View Post
    2.) for the USA its about getting their hands on irans very very valuable oil and gas reserves.
    I don't go with that. China would have some serious concerns as would Russia. I think it is because of those two countries that America is loath to make the first move. However, secretly I believe America would prepare itself to jump in to aid Israel if she started. Obama may lay on his back and P up his belly like a puppy when it goes off, but the alternatives are too dire to contemplate, if he does nothing and nukes are smuggled onto American soil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by farmboy View Post
    I don't go with that. China would have some serious concerns as would Russia. I think it is because of those two countries that America is loath to make the first move. However, secretly I believe America would prepare itself to jump in to aid Israel if she started. Obama may lay on his back and P up his belly like a puppy when it goes off, but the alternatives are too dire to contemplate, if he does nothing and nukes are smuggled onto American soil.
    Lol! Well said, I am envisaging your description of Obama, it made my day. I don't know if Obama will jump into the fray militarily, unless his alternatives are absolutely zilch. He has been playing both sides of the fence as Commander-in-Chief... more often than not on the Arab side.
    True, if he does nothing, the consequences will be beyond dire.
    Time will tell, it won't be too long before a decision has to be made.

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    Arabs are very much like kids and they soon learn when grownups are serious. Obama has never been serious, he bowed and scraped to the king of Saudi, sent messages that America wants to be loved by moslems, and when it didn't happen he sulked. He tried humiliating Israel and they still wouldn't love him because they knew he was shallow. Iran saw the opening that Obama created and moved more strongly into regional politics because they know that he's all talk. Fortunately as most American presidents are, he's only the glove puppet. I'm just wondering who is the one that has their hand up his ass. I'm quite sure that we can disguard Obama because the ones behind him are the ones with the brains and they will do what is right.

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    Obama will Refuse to Name Red Lines on Iran – NYT
    The Times' Mark Landler wrote Saturday, "Mr. Obama will not lay down new red lines on Iran, even if he discusses them with Mr. Netanyahu, administration officials said. And he is not ready to accept a central part of Israel’s strategic calculation: that an attack on Iran’s nuclear facilities would be warranted to stop it from gaining the capability to build a nuclear weapon, rather than later, to stop it from actually manufacturing one."
    Congress Ahead of Obama for Attacking Iran
    Sen. McConnell, speaking at the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) conference, labeled Iran a "state sponsor of terrorism" and suggested a resolution supporting a military strike if necessary. The motion would state, “If Iran at any time begins to enrich uranium at weapons-grade levels, or decides to go ahead with a nuclear weapons program, then the United States will use military force to end that program."
    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Ne...9#.T1XkfHn8-vU
    So basically Obama is being told. And it's about time too.

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