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    Insider news from Turkey

    Hello

    I'm currently chilling on a boat and wanted to share few hot topics if you are interested.

    -Syrian refugees kidnap a turkish cop in Turkey
    -Pkk kidnaps chp deputy (opposing party)
    -Iran Turkey flirt is no more
    -Akp loses votes (terrible foreign policy, war on terror)

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    Re: Insider news from Turkey

    I don't know if I may bump the old topics, but I will take the recent topic (as I cannot make topics). But how is the Turkey-Israel relation? I heard Turkey is becoming more pro-Islam and more anti-Israel, are these rumors true? I could search it on Google, but I am interested in the viewpoint from Israelis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurd View Post
    I don't know if I may bump the old topics, but I will take the recent topic (as I cannot make topics). But how is the Turkey-Israel relation? I heard Turkey is becoming more pro-Islam and more anti-Israel, are these rumors true? I could search it on Google, but I am interested in the viewpoint from Israelis.
    Turkey is still very hostile to Israel. But even when Turkey and Israel were good friends, I have always been in favor of Kurdish independence in their lands in Iran, Iraq, Syria, and Turkey.
    "If I forget thee, O Jerusalem, let my right hand wither, let my tongue cleave to my palate if I do not remember you, if I do not set Jerusalem above my highest joy." (Ps. 137: 5-7)"

    "Any generation in which the Temple is not built, it is as if it had been destroyed in their times" (Yerushalmi, Yoma 1a).

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    I have always been in favor of Kurdish independence in their lands in Iran, Iraq, Syria, and Turkey.


    We're making good progress. Kurds in Syria has liberated all Kurdish cities in Syria. Well, Assad's regime forces are still in Qamislo (biggest Kurdish city in Syria), but hopefully they'll head to Damascus and fight off FSA there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurd View Post


    We're making good progress. Kurds in Syria has liberated all Kurdish cities in Syria. Well, Assad's regime forces are still in Qamislo (biggest Kurdish city in Syria), but hopefully they'll head to Damascus and fight off FSA there.
    Biji Kurd u Kurdistan! I wish you every success!

    Check out this article. DNA studies have shown that Jews and Kurds are related. Kurdistan was where the northern tribes of Israel were exiled by the Assyrians.

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1626606/posts
    "If I forget thee, O Jerusalem, let my right hand wither, let my tongue cleave to my palate if I do not remember you, if I do not set Jerusalem above my highest joy." (Ps. 137: 5-7)"

    "Any generation in which the Temple is not built, it is as if it had been destroyed in their times" (Yerushalmi, Yoma 1a).

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    Hehe, thank you! Yes, I've read that article as well.

    I hope Israel secure their existence from all the nations that wants to cause them harm.

    If Israel ever goes to war with Iran, to eliminate the nuclear threat, the Kurds will support you! We would too be in favor of a war with Iran, as the Iranian Kurds could liberate all the Kurdish cities, like they did in Syria.

    You can see how much Iran is worried here: http://www.rojhelat.info/english/com...medium=twitter

    It's sad to see that you do not get much support from the U.S, and that they only are willing to give you intelligence and equipment. But of course, the U.S has had a lot of casualties, and an economy, that would end up bad with another war. But regardless of all that, what do you think the chances are of U.S engaging an attack on Iran, if Romney gets elected?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurd View Post
    ...It's sad to see that you do not get much support from the U.S, and that they only are willing to give you intelligence and equipment. But of course, the U.S has had a lot of casualties, and an economy, that would end up bad with another war. But regardless of all that, what do you think the chances are of U.S engaging an attack on Iran, if Romney gets elected?
    I think the Pentagon is strongly against attacking Iran. I don't know if Romney would go against their opinion. Regardless, I think Obama is going to be reelected.
    "If I forget thee, O Jerusalem, let my right hand wither, let my tongue cleave to my palate if I do not remember you, if I do not set Jerusalem above my highest joy." (Ps. 137: 5-7)"

    "Any generation in which the Temple is not built, it is as if it had been destroyed in their times" (Yerushalmi, Yoma 1a).

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    Re: Insider news from Turkey

    It's sad to see that you do not get much support from the U.S, and that they only are willing to give you intelligence and equipment. But of course, the U.S has had a lot of casualties, and an economy, that would end up bad with another war. But regardless of all that, what do you think the chances are of U.S engaging an attack on Iran, if Romney gets elected?
    I believe that Romney will specify red lines for Iran, either officially or unofficially, and would go to war with the goal not only o wrecking their nuclear program, but also to get rid of the Ayatollahs' regime. The only condition would be that the war needs to be finished in under a month, so no nation-building, just eliminating the Revolutionary Guard with air strikes and some covert action on the ground.

    But Romney may very lose the election, unfortunately, since so many Americans at this point, depend on not working and instead they depend on receiving money each month that Obama takes from those Americans who work for a living. Those Americans who receive the government money and food and housing will vote for Obama, who promises to further raise taxes on hard-working Americans, and keep the money redistributed to his voters. That's why Romney is trailing in many polls. But who knows... We'll only know for sure in November.
    "All we are saying is give peace a chance." - John Lennon

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    I believe that Turkey's hostility towards Israel is fake. Akp wanted to look cute for neighboring muslim countries while they hiddenly let Nato install radar defence and let Israeli agencies take over the control along with US intelligence. Same thing happened with Syria. Best fellows Asad and Erdogan won't make love anymore (ps. Remember the Israeli jets bombing syrian bases and dumping fuel tanks in Turkey). AKP's hostility towards Israel is very well planned agreement between the Us, Turkey and Israel that helps Akp to gain more votes and time to calm Iran and Russians. Today, neither Syria nor Iran are friendly neighbors. Both Asad and Shia scum are supplying PKK with bases and weapons. Recent Pkk attacks on Turkish military bases prove that weapons are from Syrian military. I remember Asad threatening Turkey, in an event of Turkish intervention in Syrian soil during the conflict will effect Turkey in the same way. Akp's current policy also upsets Iran thus they let Pkk set up more bases around the borders.

    Kurds in the other hand can't get along with each others. There is a huge cultural diference between Iraqi and Turkish Kurds. Almost, totally different dialect of language, different lifestyle and leadership disagreements etc etc. If they ever happen to unite there will be a bigger conflict about leadership because Pkk of Turkey thinks they're the superior and their leader Abdullah Öcalan isn't even a Kurdish, can't even speak Kurdish.

    Syrian Kurds are another story. Most rebels from Syrian freedom army are the sunni muslims and Turkmens. Rebel leaders are mostly realtives of saudi leaders, even the dead man Hariri's 3rd degree relative. Kurds are somewhat natural in the conflict. They won't shoot at the Syrian military but threaten by resistance if they are attacked. Syrian Kurds won't do anything else than hanging flags to deserted buildings. They are natural because Asad supplies Syrian Pkk against Turkey.

    Get a cup of coffe and think. Syrian freedom army is based in Turkey along with civilian refugees. They get arms, food and medical attention by Turkey, not the Kurds. Kurds get the arms from Asad and use them on Turkish military bases. You don't have to be rocket scientist to understand what the funk is going on there.

    Btw I'm writing via mobile and sorry for the errors above.

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    Btw don't attack me right away. I just want to start a new argument in a friendly manner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cellis View Post
    Btw don't attack me right away. I just want to start a new argument in a friendly manner.
    An argument in a friendly manner is called a "discussion". Once people start arguing, they get defensive and the possibility of learning something from each other ends. I much prefer discussions to debates or arguments.

    Concerning your remarks concerning the Kurds...there are multiple Arab states. If Kurds are really that different from each other, then let them have multiple independent Kurdish states. It should be their choice, however.

    The AKP will not be in charge of Turkey forever. Especially now that they have isolated themselves.
    "If I forget thee, O Jerusalem, let my right hand wither, let my tongue cleave to my palate if I do not remember you, if I do not set Jerusalem above my highest joy." (Ps. 137: 5-7)"

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    Quote Originally Posted by NewsGuy View Post
    ...But Romney may very lose the election, unfortunately, since so many Americans at this point, depend on not working and instead they depend on receiving money each month that Obama takes from those Americans who work for a living. Those Americans who receive the government money and food and housing will vote for Obama, who promises to further raise taxes on hard-working Americans, and keep the money redistributed to his voters. That's why Romney is trailing in many polls. But who knows... We'll only know for sure in November.
    If Romney loses in November it won't be because of entitlement programs which existed under many previous Presidents. It will be because he cannot connect with the voters, his many gaffes and misstatements that are retracted the next day by his campaign, his constantly changing, poorly stated, and vague positions, his poorly organized campaign, his preference for fund raising with wealthy donors to actual campaigning with the little people he really doesn't care about, the fact that his economic policies would destroy the economy as they almost did under Bush, and his almost complete ignorance of foreign policy. I like some of the stuff he has said about Israel, but I believe he is woefully and dangerously unprepared to be President. I have little doubt Obama is going to tear him a new one in the debates.

    Read what his fellow Republicans are saying about his campaign:
    http://theweek.com/article/index/233...blican-critics
    "If I forget thee, O Jerusalem, let my right hand wither, let my tongue cleave to my palate if I do not remember you, if I do not set Jerusalem above my highest joy." (Ps. 137: 5-7)"

    "Any generation in which the Temple is not built, it is as if it had been destroyed in their times" (Yerushalmi, Yoma 1a).

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