U.S. involvement in mideast crisis

L@mplighterM · 01-24-2002, 08:00 AM

Originally posted by L@mplighterM
I've read the Koran and I think there's little doubt that every bit of terrorist activity by the Arabs in Israel comes from that book.

Video's have been released showing the young adults kissing and touching the book to their forehead prior to embarking on their terrorist missions.

The battle in Israel has it's foundation squarely in Islamic Fundamentalism and the Koran.

SORRY LEFT OUT THE SOURCE WHEN I CUT AND PASTED.
http://www.flex.com/~jai/satyamevaja...errorist1.html

I have stated below just a few of the verses from the Koran, which support this fact. As the Koran is supposed to be timeless and universal, the verses in it hold true even today and are used everyday by pious Muslims to justify their brutal and terrorist activities.

1. (Koran 8:12) "Remember Thy Lord inspired the angels (with the message): "I am with you: give firmness to the believers, I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers, Smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger tips of them."

In the above verse the great prophet of Islam, Mohammed, is giving step by step instructions on how to torture and kill the unbelievers if they don't follow Islam. He is clearly instructing Muslims to commit cold-blooded murder in the name of religion.

2. (Koran 2:216) "Warfare is ordained for you, though it is hateful unto you; but it may happen that you hate a thing which is good for you and it may happen that you love a thing which is bad for you. Allah knoweth, you knew not."

The above verse was stated by Mohammed after his first terrorist attack. He and his followers mercilessly massacred four innocent and unarmed merchants at Nakhla in 623 AD. The massacre came in January, the sacred month of Rejeb. Arabs regard this month as a sacred month, when warfare and violence is forbidden. Since this barbaric criminal act was led and sanctioned by the "great" prophet Mohammed, we can conclude that Islam's sacred activities include loot and cold-blooded murder of innocent individuals. The very beginnings of Islam are stained with the blood of innocents.

takeo · 01-24-2002, 08:07 PM

I'm still waiting to see where in the Qoran is stated women should wear burka's ?

L@mplighterM · 01-25-2002, 07:27 AM

I know exactly where in the Koran it says that women should wear burka's. If a third party poses the question I'll post the passage from the Koran. Third party is defined as an non- Arab that has posted before.

takeo · 01-27-2002, 03:06 PM

lol
it is a poor excuse to hide that you lied.
Besides i'm a non-arab, even if for me, human beings are human beings, doesn't matter if they are Jews or Arabs they deserve the same rights, of course that doesn't make me a real Jew in your fascist mind, so be it.

Solon · 01-27-2002, 03:36 PM

Originally posted by takeo
of course that doesn't make me a real Jew in your fascist mind, so be it.

I've been lurking here for a while and posting rarely but I will venture to say that the only time you'll be considered a Jew is when your French anti-semitic comrades come to lynch you.

aid · 01-27-2002, 04:27 PM

Please don't upset Takeo, please.

Commies and Islamists of the world are united.

L@mplighterM · 01-27-2002, 05:41 PM

I told you if some other established member asks me I'll post it. Otherwise go fish.

raven · 01-28-2002, 08:21 AM

The Koran, like all the rest of these Religious Books, comes out of a particular culture. The culture is always there before the book is written. The Peoples of the Old Testament ( anti-ancient religion and its usual practices) and the New Testament (anti-Paganism)viered away from many many of the "old ways". Both these books were a statement AGAINST the old ways. A problem with the Islamic off shoot of the origional monothesistic idea is that this version of Monotheism carries the old attitudes and the old behaviors of the Arab World right with it. There is more Arab Culture in the Koran than there is Islam.

There is another difference. The three main versions of Monotheism --all --written eons ago extole attitutes and behaviors not acceptable for today. Judiasm and Christianity have rejected or attempted to reject the literal translation of these things to a large extent, but Islam has rejected very little of the literal translation. They reject these "old" behaviors and attitudes, only for Western consumption. In daily life, in reality, in many Islamic Countries, with a huge amount of peoples, these attitudes and behaviors (that are outright illegal in Western Society) are the preferred way. The usual NOT the unusual. Its NOT just the minority. This IS the Islamic Street. This is a problem. Go to http://www.memri.org and real the debate in Iran about Flogging-- just for one example.

takeo · 01-28-2002, 08:57 AM

"I've been lurking here for a while and posting rarely but I will venture to say that the only time you'll be considered a Jew is when your French anti-semitic comrades come to lynch you."

More likely i will be lynched by settlers in my next visit to the occupied territory! Last time i felt already really treatened.

The problem is not the religious book themselves, but the interpretation, both in Jewish as in Muslim religion (as in Christian). As we can see in Israel today some people take the book literally and prefere to live accoring to rules and habits of another time, the same in many Arab and muslim countries. i have been to Iran and can tell you Iran is lot more modern in mentality than for example Saoudi Arabia or Pakistan(not to mention Afghanistan). Most people hate the islamic regime and have a modern interpretation of islam, conserving the real ethical basics and practises but not the cultural assets that are usually identified with religion(burka's, etc.), nor the power of the Islamic establishments (mullah, etc.) . Many people in Israel as well are religious and don't behave like those orthodoxes.

takeo · 01-28-2002, 09:00 AM

anyway, a Jew is a Jew whatever political or religious belief he has, or do you think you have to be member of Likud and praise Sharon at least once a day to be a real Jew?

takeo · 01-28-2002, 09:03 AM

lomplighter you know as wel as i do that burka's are not mentioned in the Qoran, so cut the crap.

aid · 01-28-2002, 09:19 AM

Originally posted by takeo
anyway, a Jew is a Jew whatever political or religious belief he has, or do you think you have to be member of Likud and praise Sharon at least once a day to be a real Jew?

A Jew who is a Jew only by the formal definition of Halacha, but otherwise is a red Fascist, must curse Israel five times a day while repeatedly hitting himself on his head with the two volumes of Das Kapital.