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    Teacake
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    Settling the Settlement Issue Now and Forever

    Settling the Settlement Issue Now and Forever
    By Marc J. Rauch
    FrontPageMagazine.com | January 9, 2003

    There’s really a very simple answer to the problem of so-called “illegal Jewish settlements” in Israel._And like the answers to previous conundrums that were presumed unsolvable, it has been staring us in the face for years.

    The answer relies upon the same formula used by Winston Churchill and the British government when they first created Transjordan (Jordan) out of the mandated Jewish homeland in the early 1920s, thus turning Transjordan into a Muslim-only territory._ It’s worked for Jordan all these years, why wouldn't it be just as successful for Israel.

    To make a long story short, all of Israel, that is to say all of the land remaining from the League of Nations’ original mandated Jewish homeland, should be Jewish._ From the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea; from Lebanon to the Sinai Desert; all 11,000 square miles of the land that remained of the intended Jewish homeland should be owned and/or controlled by Jews._ The only exceptions would be international embassies and Christian religious sites._ There should be no Arab settlements or enclaves, no Arab Gaza or Arab Jerusalem or Arab Bethlehem or Arab Hebron, and no Muslim religious sites._ The only exceptions might be for those individual Arabs currently residing within the aforementioned borders that swear allegiance and peaceful existence with and within an everlasting Jewish state._ If they can't or won't pledge themselves accordingly, out they go.

    See that, it’s a remarkably simple answer.

    For the rest of the article:

    http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles...le.asp?ID=5454

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    MichaelC
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    Re: Settling the Settlement Issue Now and Forever

    Originally posted by Teacake
    Settling the Settlement Issue Now and Forever
    By Marc J. Rauch
    FrontPageMagazine.com | January 9, 2003

    There’s really a very simple answer to the problem of so-called “illegal Jewish settlements” in Israel._And like the answers to previous conundrums that were presumed unsolvable, it has been staring us in the face for years.

    The answer relies upon the same formula used by Winston Churchill and the British government when they first created Transjordan (Jordan) out of the mandated Jewish homeland in the early 1920s, thus turning Transjordan into a Muslim-only territory._ It’s worked for Jordan all these years, why wouldn't it be just as successful for Israel.

    To make a long story short, all of Israel, that is to say all of the land remaining from the League of Nations’ original mandated Jewish homeland, should be Jewish._ From the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea; from Lebanon to the Sinai Desert; all 11,000 square miles of the land that remained of the intended Jewish homeland should be owned and/or controlled by Jews._ The only exceptions would be international embassies and Christian religious sites._ There should be no Arab settlements or enclaves, no Arab Gaza or Arab Jerusalem or Arab Bethlehem or Arab Hebron, and no Muslim religious sites._ The only exceptions might be for those individual Arabs currently residing within the aforementioned borders that swear allegiance and peaceful existence with and within an everlasting Jewish state._ If they can't or won't pledge themselves accordingly, out they go.

    See that, it’s a remarkably simple answer.

    For the rest of the article:

    http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles...le.asp?ID=5454
    I support this concept. Especially in view of the duplicity of the British in promising one thing and delivering....nothing, really.

    Nobody yet has presented a good argument as to why Jordan is an "arab only" enclave and that is acceptable, while Israel is expected to admit millions of its enemies who wish it only ill.

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    takeo
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    so, don't deny it any longer, you're in favor of etnic cleansing millions of people.
    the autor of this article is a fascist, his writing about an etnic cleansed greater exclusively jewish land are criminal. Just imagine a German honestly asking for a greater Germany without any non-Germans be permitted to own property or to have religious buildings except for a few individuals swearing allegiance to the everlasting Germanic Thirth Reich........
    By the way, it is a lie that the area west of the Jordan was meant to be an exclusive Jewish area, nowhere in the balfour-declaration this is mentioned.
    that such kind of articles do not provoke a massive protest shows how far to the right most of you have evoluated...

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    MichaelC
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    The inadequacy of Ignore Lists

    Gee Teacake, it's too bad that putting Takeo on your ignore list doesn't keep him out of your threads !

    And by the way, Takeo, what I'm really in favor of is seeing less of your blathering in these threads.

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    Teacake
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    Michael, the ignore feature saves a lot of strain on the eyes and brain. If you are dying of curiosity, the ignore feature as an added feature that allows you to read a post in a seperate window. Saves space and headaches. As it is, so many people use his quotes as it is, you still can't get away from it.

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    takeo
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    if you make extremist remarks and support extremist and unhuman ideas you should be prepared for some criticism. Instead you do not tolerate criticism, while at the same time insulting and trying to ban anyone who doesn't agree with your perverted ideas. You're a lost case, I won't bother anymore replying to your posts as you're the living example of to which insanity this Israeli policy will lead us. Anyone with some democratic or humanist ideas, some human feeling, not necessarily leftist, who still supports Israel at this time should read your post. I would highly recommend it, and in fact i'm going to use the above text to my pupils as an illustration of political ideas that can lead to crimes.

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    Rob
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    Originally posted by takeo
    Anyone with some democratic or humanist ideas, some human feeling, not necessarily leftist, who still supports Israel at this time should read your post. I would highly recommend it, and in fact i'm going to use the above text to my pupils as an illustration of political ideas that can lead to crimes.
    Perhaps thats because with every homicide bombing your pals the Palestinians leave the rest of us with less & less options. Israel will not cave in to terror attacts and this is just shows how little patience is left when it comes to the Pals. Remember Israel is not going to reward terror attacts. Even a leftist government would not. Barak if he were still in power would not and of course this uprising started when there was a leftist government. The only alternative to removing all the Pals is to build a wall and to eliminate any contact with the Pals, which is what Israel is doing. They will have their defacto state with no access to Israel.
    Last edited by Rob; 01-09-2003 at 11:55 PM.

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    prfix
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    Poll Shows Strong Support for Jewish Settlement of the West Bank and Gaza

    STRONG SUPPORT FOR JEWISH SETTLEMENT OF THE WEST BANK AND GAZA

    A JtB Poll shows strong support for Jewish settlement of the West Bank and Gaza in the Friends of Israel community:

    see the Poll at

    http://www.geocities.com/truthmaster...theboycott.htm

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    Blueprint
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    probably for the first time ever, i agree with takeo.

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    takeo
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    I wish more people who usually defend Israel would condamn such extremist solutions. I oppose the current policy of Israel as you know, but my feeling for such kind of ideas is more than opposition, it is repulsion and fear!

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    I am David
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    Takeo, would you rather die or be forced to move from your home?

    Would you move from your home in order to prevent the death of someone else?

    Answer these questions before making judgment on the issue of transfer.

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    takeo
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    you can ask the same questions to the israeli and palestinian people as well...

    noone has the right to be forced to move from his home-country. i would not accept such a decision and refuse to move, perhaps chaining myself to the walls as a form of protest.

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    I am David
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    Did you answer the questions or just run around them? As you can see the questions relate directly to the morality of transfer.

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    takeo
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    your question is fake, you won't save anyone by being forced to move. of course if all israeli or all palestinians would move from the region the problems would be solved, but i hope you'll agree with me this is neither a realistic nor human solution.
    iF youdon't agree, then why the palestinians and not the israeli?
    I hope by looking at this from both sides you'll give up this perverted idea.

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    localbrew
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    Originally posted by takeo
    so, don't deny it any longer, you're in favor of etnic cleansing millions of people.
    the autor of this article is a fascist, his writing about an etnic cleansed greater exclusively jewish land are criminal. Just imagine a German honestly asking for a greater Germany without any non-Germans be permitted to own property or to have religious buildings except for a few individuals swearing allegiance to the everlasting Germanic Thirth Reich........
    By the way, it is a lie that the area west of the Jordan was meant to be an exclusive Jewish area, nowhere in the balfour-declaration this is mentioned.
    that such kind of articles do not provoke a massive protest shows how far to the right most of you have evoluated...
    Takeo,

    Since when is religion ethnic? Since when are so called Palestinians considered an ethnic group? Just moving to a particular spot on the map does not make one ethnically indigenous to that spot. So how can this be ethnic cleansing?

    If given no other choice but to go back home I suspect most so-called Palestinians would soon remember exactly where their ethnic roots came from.

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