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    cerulean
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    Israeli Election Results - Please post

    Please post the results and projections as you hear them or read them (with time stamps). They are coming in now.

    Here are the exit poll results:
    http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satelli...=1043728346015

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    Voter turnout seems to be about 68%. I don't think this is as high as usual, due to the circumstances, but ordinarily Israel supposedly has one of the, if not the highest voter turnout in any democratic country.

    Official results aren't expected untill thursday, wah, a long wait

    But there is always the Kasparov V. Deep Junior games we can keep ourselfs occupied with

    Seriously, most people expect Sharon to win, and I think he will. Labor didn't seem to be doing to good towards the end with a request for a new candidate, and most Israelis seem prefer defense against agression as appossed to running away from their problems.

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    Another sad day for Israel and for the Palestinians, the only good news is the good performance of the anti-religious party.

    It seems like the war will continue for at least a couple of years more
    Why did they vote for Sharon, who never delivered what he promised(peace, prosperity, stability)? Propaganda for sure, and the wrong conviction among many Israeli that you can't talk with palestinians, only shoot at them.

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    Likud gets about 34-36 seats, Labor 14-18 and Shinui the same.
    Last edited by Mediocrates; 01-28-2003 at 05:58 PM.

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    Arutz Sheva polls.

    Likud 37
    Labor 18
    Shinui 15
    Shas 11
    Arab 9
    National Union 7
    Meretz 6
    NRP 6
    UTJ 5
    Am Echad 3
    Yisrael bAliya 2
    Green 0
    Herut 0

    Meretz leader to retire, Meretz may end

    68.5% voter turnout

    Likud-right-religious bloc of up to 70 seats.

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    Sharon is so obsessed with that "Palestinian state" that he prefers Shinui to Lieberman.If Shinui is in the coalition it will destroy Israel from within quickly.

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    Glad to say that we are now witnessing the downfall of the extreme Left parties, and are given to understand that the Likud reflects the Centrist values of Israel.

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    true results, 11:00 AM Israel local time

    over 98% votes (still not counted: votes of the soldiers and embasies)

    (in brackets, number of seats in ‘99 elections)
    Likud – 37 (19)
    Labor – 19 (26)
    Shinui – 15 (6)
    Shas – 11 (17)
    Ikuhd Leumi – 7 (8)
    Meretz – 6 (10)
    Mafdal - 5 (5)
    Yahadut Hatora – 5 (5)
    Hadash-Ta'al – 4 (4)
    Am Ekhad - 4 (2)
    Balad - 3 (1)
    Israel Ba'aliya - 2 (6)
    Ra'am - 2 (5)

    Percentage of voters was below 68%, the lowest percent ever (since 1948!)

    Division to blocks:
    Right + orthodox religious: 67
    Center: 19
    Left: 34

    Among the parties that did not meet the minimum threshold (~45,000 votes):
    Herut – 34,000
    Ale Yaroq – 31,000
    This is more than one seat in the Knesset, but the threshold stands at 1.5% of total votes.

    Division of votes: (above 5% noted)
    Urban centers:
    Likud 31%, Labor 14%, Shinui 13%, Meretz 4%, Shas 9%, Ikhud Leumi 6%, Yahadut Hatora 5%, Mafdal 4%

    Jews from across the green line (WB, GS):
    Likud 29%, Labor 4%, Shinui 7%, Meretz 1%, Shas 9%, Ikhud Leumi 17%, Mafdal 15%, Yahadut Hatora 11%, Herut 5%

    Israeli Arabs:
    Labor 6%, Hadash-Ta’al 29%, Ra’am 19%, Balad 22%, Am Ekhad 5%

    All Israeli Jews:
    Likud 32%, Labor 15%, Shinui 13%, Meretz 5%, Shas 9%, Ikhud Leumi 6%, Yahadut Hatora 5%, Mafdal 5%

    Moreshet Avot (Parent Legacy), the party headed by Rabbi Ba-Gad got 93 votes, despite the fact that the rabbi withdrew from the race 3 days before the elections (the votes were considered void).

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    Jews from across the green line (WB, GS):
    Likud 29%, Labor 4%, Shinui 7%, Meretz 1%, Shas 9%, Ikhud Leumi 17%, Mafdal 15%, Yahadut Hatora 11%, Herut 5%





    This needs to be shouted from the rooftops in the west to refute the argument that all 'settlers' are hyperreligious psychojews with machine guns.

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    Mediocrates:

    hyperreligious psychojews with machine guns


    This sounds like the name of a rock band. Anywhoo, you're right.

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    yeah I'm losing it but that's what I hear all the time about those 'settlers' that as a bloc they are an evil fundamentalist swarm and the voting record does not reflect that.

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    Originally posted by danholo
    Mediocrates:

    hyperreligious psychojews with machine guns


    This sounds like the name of a rock band. Anywhoo, you're right.
    Great idea for a provocative PR gag

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    Not all settlers are indeed "hyperreligious psychojews" if you analyse the results, yet many of them are.

    Likud isn't centrist at all, it is extreme-right, it isn't because they get many votes that suddenly they became centrist. Perhaps the good part of the Israeli population stayed at home, especially the ones who usually vote left. Sharon has been discovered as a fraud, the judges cut his speech for the television, his time as a prime minister was the most disasterous ever for israel, still people vote for him. that's what war does with people, it makes them mad (the reason as wel why the majority of Palestinians support suicide-bombers, it is bad for the palestinian case and evil, still they want revenge for all the injustices done to them, as the israeli want revenge too, that's why they voted for typical "revenge-parties" instead of for parties who have actually a solution)
    Sharonbmn at least, who said he voted labour some months ago, seems to have moved to the ultra-right.

    Anyway with this kind of election-results peace seems absolutely impossible in the near future, and war and bloodshet will go on, while israel's economy will continue to go down.

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    interesting speech:
    http://www.israel-embassy.org.uk/london

    In the weekly Torah portion relating the giving of the Torah, it is written that when the Tribes of Israel reached the foot of Mount Sinai, it was said: "Israel encamped there." "Encamped" is in the singular rather than the plural. Chazal explained that the people of Israel was worthy of receiving the Torah only after it acted, for the first time in its history, "as one man, with one heart."
    Can anyone explain this? I understand its relevance to the victory speech but not the analogy itself.
    Last edited by ayesha; 01-30-2003 at 04:27 AM.

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    Originally posted by takeo
    Likud isn't centrist at all, it is extreme-right, it isn't because they get many votes that suddenly they became centrist.
    Likud is not extreme-right by any standards. Ariel Sharon has stated countless times he is prepared to accept a Palestinian independant state.
    This is completely different from Liberman and Effi Eitam who oppose any kind og Palestinian independence or even Autonomy!

    If you expect the Israelis to differentiate between terrorists like Hamas and Jihad on one hand and Arafat on the other, then you MUST make a distinction between extremist fanatics like Liberman and Eitam on one hand, and a moderate right like Likud on the other.

    Originally posted by takeo
    Sharonbmn at least, who said he voted labour some months ago, seems to have moved to the ultra-right.
    I voted Shinui. Shinui has a distinct socio economic agenda. They declare themselves "center" in political issues. They agree that a final peace agreement should be on the terms stated by president Bush and include dismantling of remote settlements. This is ultra-right?
    you taeko, seem to think everyone who's not Meretz is "ultra-right" and you make the same error that Liberman does when he calls all Palestinians "terrorists".

    Originally posted by takeo
    Anyway with this kind of election-results peace seems absolutely impossible in the near future, and war and bloodshet will go on, while israel's economy will continue to go down.
    Last time Arafat was in Washington on dec. 2000, president Clinton told him he (arafat) is the biggest contributor to Sharon's campaign.
    If the Palestinians pursue the tactics of terror attacks against Israeli civillians in places such as Tel Aviv and Netanya, they CANNOT expect the Israelis to show moderate attitude. This is a-b-c in human psych. The world has long since understood who is the moderate and who is the fanatic in this conflict.

    The Israelis have shown maturity, moderation and will to compromise in 2000 Camp David. The Palestinians, with Arafat as their leader, displayed fanaticism, inflexibility and lack for understanding for the need of security for Israel. I'm afraid you, takeo, show the same attitude.

    We are waiting for you to grow up. I guess you decided to do it the hard way.

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