Home | I knew when I heard NASA had lost contact that something catastrophic happened. Had they simply lost voice contact, it would have been no big deal. But there are several simultaneous transmissions, much of it telemetry, and only a major catastrophe could disrupt all channels at once.
The question now is what happened?
Israel's first astronaut was aboard. There was also an Indian female astronaut.
Last edited by ibrodsky; 02-01-2003 at 08:02 AM.
Israel's first astronaut.
An Indian female astronaut.
Bush says its "not terrorism" because the shuttle broke up at 200,000 feet. That means nothing. The slightest thing wrong with the shuttle's heat shield, one crack, one little opening - bye bye shuttle. Everyone who came in contact with the Columbia before its launch and before it started re-entry should be investigated. And if you don't know the exact number of people who had access to it, their names and their occupations, then that's a glaring hole in security.
President Bush did not say its "not terrorism."Originally posted by TheyAre
Bush says its "not terrorism" because the shuttle broke up at 200,000 feet. That means nothing.
The White House said that at 200,000 feet it is very unlikely it was a terrorist attack. I.e., one thing we can rule out is a shoulder-fired anti-aircraft missile.
No one has ruled out sabotage.
The first thing we should worry about is the families of the crew members.
I cannot imagine what they are going through right now. But our thoughts and prayers should be with them.
Originally posted by ibrodsky
The first thing we should worry about is the families of the crew members.
I cannot imagine what they are going through right now. But our thoughts and prayers should be with them.
I am just absolutely crushed at hearing this, and I am offering my prayers to the brave crewmembers and their families.
Oh! I have slipped the surly bonds of earth
And danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings;
Sunward I've climbed, and joined the tumbling mirth
Of sun-split clouds - and done a hundred things
You have not dreamed of - wheeled and soared and swung
High in the sunlit silence. Hov'ring there,
I've chased the shouting wind along, and flung
My eager craft through footless halls of air.
Up, up the long, delirious, burning blue
I've topped the wind-swept heights with easy grace
Where never lark, or even eagle flew -
And, while with silent lifting mind I've trod
The high untrespassed sanctity of space,
Put out my hand and touched the face of God.
G-d bless them!
Incredibly sad.
With all the advances in technology that let man travel space and glimpse far away galaxies, the possibilities for disaster are still very much there until the last minute of landing.
I can only imagine the grief and shock of the astronauts' families.
A tragic day.
A tragic day, indeed. I'm extremely sad over this disaster. I saw Challenger blow up in '86 and I've thought ever since that the entire shuttle design is seriously flawed, and now the Columbia. Why do those desk-bound bureaucrats at NASA insist upon external fuel tanks that get jettisoned at the start of a flight? A better and safer shuttle design would be integrated fuel and propulsion. Any sabotage that occurred was probably an inadvertent result of the penny wise and pound foolish mentality of the NASA bean counters. Anything that can go wrong will go wrong, so why increase the chances that something will go wrong with fuel tanks that get blown off- stressing the exterior everytime- at the beginning of a launch?
I find it very hard to believe that it's not terrorism. If there was no Israeli aboard I wouldn't. Just like the shooting at LAX on July 4th. The first shuttle to explode in a long time just happens to have an Israeli onboard.
I remember just yesterday on CNN, they were talking about how there could be a possible terrorist attack, because it had an Israeli onboard.
And the news whores have still found a way to work Palestine into it. They said it exploded over Palestine, Texas.
Last edited by Blueprint; 02-01-2003 at 07:58 AM.
It's harder to believe that it was terrorism.
But I do expect verbal terrorism from Palestinian supporters over the next weeks.
Perhaps even some singing and dancing...
Originally posted by Blueprint
I find it very hard to believe that it's not terrorism. If there was no Israeli aboard I wouldn't. Just like the shooting at LAX on July 4th. The first shuttle to explode in a long time just happens to have an Israeli onboard.
I remember just yesterday on CNN, they were talking about how there could be a possible terrorist attack, because it had an Israeli onboard.
And the news whores have still found a way to work Palestine into it. They said it exploded over Palestine, Texas.
Palestine, TX is about 67 miles from Nacogdoches where the bulk of the shuttle fell. It is interesting they picked Palestine (pronounced Pales-teen) as a location of the debris when there are many other cities to choose from. Sounds like subtle symbolism there.
A missile taking the Columbia down would have been almost an impossibility. I don’t believe any missile travels over Mach 3 and Columbia was going in excess of Mach 6. Secondly, missiles do not travel above 100,000 ft. because their fins don't have enough oxygen to steer. Columbia was over 200,000 feet high.
Terrorist related? Extremely unlikely.
Very Depressing. I will not rule out terrorism ever.
Right. In light of past behavior, it would not surprise me at all to see dancing in the streets of Arab and Muslim countries in celebration of death to Americans, Israelis, and Westerners in general.Originally posted by ibrodsky
Perhaps even some singing and dancing...
It is also curious, to say the least, that following dire threats from Muslim groups, the shuttle exploded over a town called "Palestine" in Texas.
At this point, there is no sign of terrorism, because the investigation has not yet started. But either way, it is very curious that Palestine is once again associated with death and tragedy for the West.
Please correct me if I am wrong, but I do believe it was mentioned at the outset of the shuttle's mission, that Israeli astronaut Ilon Ramon was one of the two F-16 pilots who took out the Osiraq nuclear reactor in Iraq in 1981.
I thought, at the time, how young he looks even now, what a kid he must've been then, though obviously, an accomplished combat pilot.
My heart goes out to his family.
How long before the Arabs say it was Allah's will since Col. Ramon flew in the Yom Kippur War and was part of the team who took out Iraq's nuclear reactor in 1980?Originally posted by NewsGuy
Right. In light of past behavior, it would not surprise me at all to see dancing in the streets of Arab and Muslim countries in celebration of death to Americans, Israelis, and Westerners in general.
It is also curious, to say the least, that following dire threats from Muslim groups, the shuttle exploded over a town called "Palestine" in Texas.
At this point, there is no sign of terrorism, because the investigation has not yet started. But either way, it is very curious that Palestine is once again associated with death and tragedy for the West.
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