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    Gautama
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    The way I see it, it was a bigot that wrote that definition, insofar as equating a religion to being a racial or ethnic group, to the exclusion of anyone else who are semites but non-Jewish. The definition is in gross error, and is therefore just plain-ole wrong.

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    elke
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    Originally posted by Gautama
    The way I see it, it was a bigot that wrote that definition, insofar as equating a religion to being a racial or ethnic group, to the exclusion of anyone else who are semites but non-Jewish. The definition is in gross error, and is therefore just plain-ole wrong.
    That may well be, but the word currently has a meaning that's understood by majority of people, obtuse and not. Therefore, the origins or moral qualities of the person who invented the word per se matter little, so long as everyone (or almost everyone) understands what is meant by it.

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    Gautama
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    Those who work at Oxford, who set forth the Oxford English Dictionary--the gold standard to which all other dictionaries are measured--would disagree with your assessment that once a word is defined, that definition is carved in stone.

    It is not. As common usage continues to move toward the more accurate definition of the term, so have/will any/all dictionary definitions follow/ed.

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    This word is in continued use. Therefore, if you look at your "gold standard" of an Oxford dictionary, you will find exactly the same definition as that understood by most people, apparently except you and few others like you,

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    Originally posted by Gautama
    The way I see it, it was a bigot that wrote that definition, insofar as equating a religion to being a racial or ethnic group, to the exclusion of anyone else who are semites but non-Jewish. The definition is in gross error, and is therefore just plain-ole wrong.

    Ok so the earth is round the sky is blue. There must be a new page from the rant-o-blogs been distributed.

    First off - the voice of bigotry doesn't get to decide who should and should not be offended by hatespeech. Save that for the David Dukes of the world.

    Second - terms are what they are and anyone who can't or won't think in context or with a view to reality or history is trolling.

    If you have a point make it, if you're being oblique because you want to engage us in some obscure bs ritual like 'let's put the Torah on trial' or 'let's examine Talmud for all it's lies' then kindly take it somewhere else.

    Thanks.

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    Originally posted by Mediocrates
    Ok so the earth is round the sky is blue. There must be a new page from the rant-o-blogs been distributed.
    Actually the earth is ovate and the sky is only blue under certain conditions. But for my two cents worth, the best I would say is that IMHO the word is inaccurate. It wouldn't be the first time an inaccuracy had fallen into popular usage. We still say the sun rises and sets, though we know that it doesn't move around the earth.

    If you have a point make it, if you're being oblique because you want to engage us in some obscure bs ritual like 'let's put the Torah on trial' or 'let's examine Talmud for all it's lies' then kindly take it somewhere else.

    Thanks.
    If past experience is any indicator, you ain't seen nothing yet from this one.

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    that's what banning is for.

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    elke
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    Originally posted by andak01
    Actually the earth is ovate and the sky is only blue under certain conditions. But for my two cents worth, the best I would say is that IMHO the word is inaccurate. It wouldn't be the first time an inaccuracy had fallen into popular usage. We still say the sun rises and sets, though we know that it doesn't move around the earth.
    Cute!

    If past experience is any indicator, you ain't seen nothing yet from this one. .[/B]
    Ouch!

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