Home | Ok the fact it's against the Geneva convention to parade prisoners isn't half the problem. Isn't it obvious what these people are going through.
"We won't torture any of our prisoners"
-An Iraqi official.
Meanwhile 16 Republican Guards stand by the Tigris firing Machine guns into the river trying to kill an American downed Airman.
If that's not violation of human rights WHAT IS?
War is a terrible thing and if you cannot handle your own combatants being killed then don't support the start of it.
I am not pro-Saddam so I don't take offence at your closing remarks but does it not seem ironic that America would have a military expenditure at least 16 times greater than Iraq can put together.
Is there a human right to be allowed to live without having some other country decide that you need to be bombed into submission.
"Ok the fact it's against the Geneva convention to parade prisoners"
True. But it's funny the complete lack of reaction to the very same thing happening in the preceding days- the POW was Iraqi and the photos appeared in newspapers all over the world.
I'm sure you know the photo - Iraqi POW, handcuffed, kneeling, hand on his head, being poured a drink with a gun pointing at him.
Must be different somehow.
Since when did the israeli/pakistani/s.arabian sponsoring bush administration start to care about human rights??
Who knows what USA are doing with their prisoners. Want a tip?
Put them on guantanamo and you wont need to follow american or international laws. Some democracy you have over there.
USA have zero credability when it comes to human rights.
Who cares about your soldiers? You wanted war and now you got it. Not fun anymore?
77 dead civilians in Basra you murderous bastards. I feel soooo sorry for your captured soldiers in comparison.
or these people:
http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0...084869,00.html
Nice shooting there. Maybe the syrian civilians posed a clear danger to the pilot.
Also, maybe if you learned to program the tomahawks that hit Turkey you wouldnt miss...the country.
So much for smart bombs.
Might not have been a smart bomb. At any rate, war zones are what they are. All in all though not exactly the Hiroshima you've been predicting.
I suppose you can cheer the murder of unarmed American service women who's main job was to repair trucks, if that makes you feel better.
There you have it as always. Cant you really hear yourselves?
When 77 CIVILIANS are killed in Basrah you just say "collateral damage" or as you put it "war zones are what they are".
When a few american soldires are captured you start to complain about geneva convention and refer to them as non-combatants.
Its impossible to realise how indoctrinated you must be by your own propaganda.
Dead iraqi civilians towards living american prisoners. Guess where the world has its sympathies?
77 civilians is sad, and I do feel sympathy for them and their families. When did you start caring for the Iraqi civilians who are butchered daily by Saddam?
Anyway, do you know how Iraqis treat their prisoners?
Id rather those US POWs die rather than be tortured by Saddams men.
I do care about the iraqis being killed by Saddam, but you are not killing them to save them from Saddam.
You are getting yourself into a region which you cant master in my opinion.
You cant stay after Saddam is gone for all groups in iraq will turn on you if you do and if you dont stay all hell will break lose between clans, ethnic minorities and other groups influenced by the neighbours. The country cant continue to exist in the current form and with these borders without the oppression they have today.
Abit like balkan after Tito. Its no excuse for Saddam being in power but it can mean that the situation will get even worse, which it usually tends to do after american or british involvement anyway.
The thing is that none of us knows what will happen after war but we all know what happens during war. As I see it you are condemning the iraqis to death regardless and your Bush administration knows it.
As you see now not all that many iraqis are welcoming you. The kurds will turn against you when they wont get their own nation which I dont think USA could ever accept. The shiitemuslims in the south will probably install ayatollah Mohammad Baqer Hakim or even let the iranians in if/when they get free elections and I doubt USA will find any of those better than Saddam. Then you will have to deal with them.
Im convinced you are killing iraqis in vain. They and millions of other muslims will not forget that. Nor will others like me.
Give support if you like but war wont help the region.
Kapiti, I have a question for you. After loosing the war in 1991 Iraq signed an obligation (among others) to compensate victims of its aggresion (Kuweit, Israel, Saudi Arabia). How do you suggest that Iraq should be made to honour this obligation? Or do you think that Israel doesn't deserve one, since it's itself is aggressor/racist/monster/...? What about Kuweit?Originally posted by Kapiti
Is there a human right to be allowed to live without having some other country decide that you need to be bombed into submission.
>>>'When 77 CIVILIANS are killed in Basrah you just say "collateral damage" or as you put it "war zones are what they are".'<<<
from all the reports i read, most of the civilian deaths in basra are attributed to iraqi troops loyal to saddam using civilians as human shields. apparently the shiia locals have had enough of this and are now revolting against saddam's troops in the area
Don't worry tandem this is the same mindset that calls IDF operations picking through terrorist houses room by room a warcrime and blowing up busloads of children the inevitable outpouring of frustration of downtrodden people or some such snot.
Today in Baghdad is 2500 degrees and raining fire. If yoiu don't like the weather, move.Originally posted by Kapiti
War is a terrible thing and if you cannot handle your own combatants being killed then don't support the start of it.
I'm not sure you know what the word ironic means. I would call it the inevitable outpouring of a frustrated people. Or, It just sux to be you.I am not pro-Saddam so I don't take offence at your closing remarks but does it not seem ironic that America would have a military expenditure at least 16 times greater than Iraq can put together.
Stick to the facts and leave the bloody shirts at home. Or, if you have to bleed for everyone then grow a heart for dead Israelis.Is there a human right to be allowed to live without having some other country decide that you need to be bombed into submission.
This is really a point of misunderstanding among many Leftists. The U.S. does not want to master Iraq nor any other nation. We are simply eliminating a threat to the region and to ourselves. And hopefully, this will be a first step in eliminating other Arab and Islamic terrorist dictators.Originally posted by Northlander
You are getting yourself into a region which you cant master in my opinion.
I think he meant that we are getting ourselves involved in a battle that we can't master. None of these soldiers have seen the type of battles that they will encounter in Baghdad. It's going to get very ugly and the world is counting the number of civilian casualties. It might turn into another Jenin, only on a much larger scale.Originally posted by NewsGuy
This is really a point of misunderstanding among many Leftists. The U.S. does not want to master Iraq nor any other nation. We are simply eliminating a threat to the region and to ourselves. And hopefully, this will be a first step in eliminating other Arab and Islamic terrorist dictators.
Anyway, I think that's what he meant.
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