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    Batman
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    Hudna: A Shakespearean Tragedy Returns For More In The Middle East

    Although the new OSLO (THE ROAD MAP) is now being played out - same script, same characters, same actors (some got leading speaking parts instead of simply being extras)same training, same stage, different masks, and the director has been exchanged but is still on the Executive Board overseeing and instructing the puppets- still making lots of money, creating new television shows geared at inciting more murders and now the public will hold its breath for the conclusion of the good the bad and the ugly.

    THIS IS STILL RELEVANT, UNFORTUNATELY.

    http://www.pmw.org.il/report-31.html
    Is The PA's Permanent Agreement A Peace Agreement or "Hudna" [Cease Fire]?
    Written by: Itamar Marcus, Director
    Introduction:
    Israeli Arab Knesset Member Abd-Al Malek Dahamshe was interviewed recently on Palestinian Television. A viewer called in to the studio and commented that, "Our problem with Israel is not a border problem, but on of existence". M.K. Dahamshe responded: "We exaggerate when we say 'peace'... what we are [really] speaking about is 'Hudna'". [Palestinian Television, 1 September 2000]


    "Hudna" is an Islamic term whose meaning is a cease fire. Not only did M.K. Dahamsha not disassociate himself from the position opposing the very existence of Israel that was expressed by the caller, but he in effect agreed with the caller by referring to the agreements with Israel not as "Peace" but rather as "Hudna", that is, a cease fire.

    This report investigates to what extent this position of Dahamshe reflects the position of the Palestinian Authority. When Palestinian officials speak to their own people, and not in international forums, do they anticipate that an permanent agreement with Israel will be peace agreement bringing closure to the conflict with Israel, or that it is just a "Hudna" - a temporary cease fire?

    Findings
    The research demonstrates a clear and singular world-view within the Palestinian leadership, when they speak among themselves, whether in speeches to the nation and educational lectures, or through educational messages to Palestinian youth and through the new textbooks published by the Palestinian Authority just this month. The clear and consistent message is: Israel has no right to exist, by definition Israel is a colony that stole the land of "Palestine" and evicted its residents. Therefore within the framework of the "justice" that the Palestinians demand, there is no room for Israel in "Palestine". Thus the internal Palestinian lexicon contains many terms and expressions to describe and explain the negotiations in this context, for example: "The permanent agreement is a stage"; "The Oslo accord is just getting our foot in the door; "All the agreements are temporary"; "The Prophet also signed the Hodaibiah agreement..." [an agreement that was signed between the prophet Mohammed and the heretics of Mecca, and that was subsequently breached by Mohammed] where all these are simply part of the process of liberating "Palestine". The common justification given for the very need for a temporary agreement with Israel is, "Because of current balance of power". From the views and positions expressed within the Palestinian Authority it is evident that Dahamshe's statement, that a permanent agreement with Israel is to be viewed as "Hudna", is very much the rule and not the exception.

    The following are a few examples where PA leaders have stated this explicitly.

    1. Palestinian Authority Minister Shahian: Oslo is just the first step in the destruction of Israel:

    "The Palestinian people accepted the Oslo agreements as a first step and not as a permanent arrangement, based on the premise that the war and struggle on the ground [i.e., locally against Israeli territory] is more efficient than a struggle from a distant land... for the Palestinian people will continue the revolution until they achieve the goals of the '65 revolution...". [Al Ayaam, 30 May 2000. P.A. Minister of Supply Abd El Aziz Shahian] [The "'65 Revolution" is the founding of the P.L.O. and the publication of the Palestinian covenant that calls for the destruction of Israel via an armed struggle.]

    2. A Palestinian Authority preacher: "All agreements are temporary".

    "We the nation of Palestine, our fate from Allah is to be the vanguard in the war against the Jews until the resurrection of the dead, as the Prophet Mohammed said: The resurrection of the dead will not come until you do battle with the Jews and kill them, you on the east side of the river, and they on the west side."

    We the Palestinians, are the vanguard in this issue, in this battle, whether we want to or whether we would refuse. All the agreements that made are temporary, until the command shall come from Allah, until the destiny from Allah shall be realized". [Palestinian Televison, 28 July 2000. The Preacher Dr. Ahmed Yousuf Abu Halbiah]

    3. Arafat's Deputy: The Palestinian State is just the first stage.

    "... At this stage we'll prevail in our struggle [to attain] the goals of the phases [doctrine]. The goal of this phase is the establishment of the independent Palestinian State, with its capital in Jerusalem. When we achieve this, it will be a positive [step] and it will advance us to the next phase via other ways and means..."

    'Every Palestinian must know clearly and unequivocally that the independent Palestinian State, with Jerusalem as its capital is not the end of the road'. The [rise of] the Palestinian State is a phase after which another there will be another phase and that is the democratic state in all of Palestine." [Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, 25 November 1999]

    [Othman Abu Arbiah is Arafat's aide for Political Guidance and national affairs, and the Director-General for National Affairs, a senior position in the Palestinian national educational systems]

    4. A Palestinian Authority Preacher: Whoever concedes Haifa or Ashkelon is a traitor, a loathsome criminal, whose abode is in Hell.

    The prohibition against coming to terms with the very existence of Israel, as a fundamental Palestinian premise and belief, was stressed this past month by the P.A.'s preacher at the Al Akza mosque, an Arafat appointee.:

    "The Islamic land of Palestine is one and not divided, There is no difference between Haifa and Nablus, between Lod and Ramallah, between Jerusalem and Nazareth, between Gaza and Ashkelon. The land of Palestine is Waqf land that belongs to Moslems throughout the world and no one has the right to act freely or the right to make concessions or to abandon her. Whoever does this betrays a [trust] and is nothing more than a loathsome criminal whose abode is in Hell!" [Palestinian Television, 8 September 2000. The Preacher of Al Akza Mosque, Sheikh Yousuf Abu Snina]

    At first glance, the P.A.'s senior and official preacher appears to define Arafat and the entire ranking echelon of the P.A. as, "traitors.. criminals.. whose abode is in Hell" given that they agreed to the existence of Israel that includes giving up on "Haifa, Lod, Nazareth, and Ashkelon". However, if it is understood and agreed-to internally within the Palestinian world, that the agreements with Israel are just for a "Hudna" (cease-fire), the preacher's words are not aimed at Arafat or his government's ministers. To the contrary, these statements by his own appointee, give Arafat a "Shariatic" (Islamic law) Seal of Approval and testify that Arafat is not guilty of "giving up or abandoning" Palestinian land.

    5. The P.A.'s Communication Minister: The Occupation State will cease to exist and the historical Palestine will be restored.

    "Our people have hope for the future, that the Occupation State ceases to exist, and that it makes no difference [how great] its power and arrogance...". [Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, 18 November 1999. Minister of Communications, Amad Alfalugi]

    6. Salim Alwadia, Abu Salem, Supervisor of Political Affairs:

    "When we picked up the gun in '65 and the modern Palestinian Revolution began, it had a goal. This goal has not changed and it is the liberation of Palestine." [Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, 20 January 2000]

    Conclusion
    The conclusion of the research is that the calming message from the Israeli and Palestinian leadership to their respective people are direct opposites of one another:
    Israel leaders are saying:
    The permanent status agreement will be painful, but we must accept it because it will mark the end of the conflict with the Palestinians and the Arab world in general.
    The Palestinian leaders are saying:
    The permanent status agreement will be painful, but we must accept it because it is not the end of the conflict. This is but the current phase of the conflict.

    The words of M.K. Abd-Al Malek Dahamshe constitute the conceptual basis for the Palestinian Authority's policies:

    "We exaggerate when we say 'peace'... what we are [really] speaking about is 'Hudna [Palestinian Television, 1 September 2000]'".

    Translated and adapted from the Hebrew by Hershel Ginsburg.

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    Under cover of hudna

    Friday, June 27, 2003 Sivan 27, 5763

    Analysis / Under cover of hudna

    By Aluf Benn


    summary: from: http://www.jcpa.org/daily/index.html
    Why is Israel so suspicious of the hudna among the Palestinian organizations? Experience shows that the Arabs have exploited cease-fires in the past to accumulate strength for the next round of conflict. In Jerusalem they know that the minute a cease-fire is declared, even a temporary one, it would satisfy the international community and even Israeli public opinion. If there really is quiet and the terrorist attacks cease, no one in the world will be interested in Israel's claims about "the strengthening of the terror organizations." The ball will be kicked into the Israeli court and the Sharon government will be required to fulfill its part of the road map on the way to a Palestinian state.
    Israel agreed to give the Palestinians three to six weeks before they take apart Hamas in Gaza. Israel estimates that in this period Hamas won't have time to rebuild its power. Yet if calm is achieved, the U.S. will have difficulty pressuring the Palestinians to embark on a civil war and Israel will be deprived of its military freedom in the territories. (Ha'aretz
    Last edited by Batman; 06-27-2003 at 05:56 AM.

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    Jerusalem views 'Hudna' irrelevant

    [QUOTE]Originally posted by Batman

    Jun. 27, 2003
    Jerusalem views 'Hudna' irrelevant
    By HERB KEINON


    summary: from:http://www.jcpa.org/daily/index.html
    Jerusalem completely downplayed the significance of a tactical cease-fire (hudna) between the Palestinian Authority and the terror organizations, with officials calling it everything from "irrelevant" to "a trap." "This 'cease-fire' is poison covered in honey," said Gideon Meir, the Foreign Ministry's deputy director-general for public affairs. According to Meir, the cease-fire may hold for a short while, but when it breaks down, and Israel is forced to react to stave off terror attacks, it will be blamed for "breaking the cease-fire."
    According to diplomatic sources in Jerusalem, Abbas hopes that the three-month cease-fire will buy him enough time to organize the PA's security apparatus, and gain popularity on the Palestinian street through what he hopes will be a palpable easing of conditions of the population, so that he will be able to deter Hamas from taking action without actually having to go in and dismantle the organization. According to these officials, the Egyptian mediators who helped hammer out the cease-fire deal pressed the Palestinians to agree in an attempt to push Israel into a corner. According to this logic, a period of quiet will force Israel into having to begin negotiating - under the terms of the road map - a provisional Palestinian state, and taking steps on the ground to significantly ease the plight of the Palestinians.
    According to the foreign ministry, three weeks after Aqaba there is not the smallest sign that the PA intends to engage in a true fight against terror. On the other hand, there remain dozens of "hot" alerts. There has been no change in Palestinian incitement, or the PA's attitude toward it. The incitement can be stopped without the need to reorganize the PA security apparatus. (Jerusalem Post)
    Jerusalem views 'Hudna' irrelevant

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    The words of M.K. Abd-Al Malek Dahamshe constitute the conceptual basis for the Palestinian Authority's policies:

    "We exaggerate when we say 'peace'... what we are [really] speaking about is 'Hudna [Palestinian Television, 1 September 2000]'
    There is a serious problem with the Jews: we are too tolerant or just stupid... Even though we have our own country, deep inside our mentality is still of Galuth Shtetl or even worse, a Ghetto.

    Any other country would not tolerate such members of parliament. Any other country would not attempt to make "peace" (in quotes because see above) with sworn enemies. IMHO, the whole premise "land for peace" is totally flawed. How much blood it will take for us to smarten up?

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    Israel wants U.S. guarantees

    w w w . h a a r e t z d a i l y . c o m
    Last update - 04:11 27/06/2003
    Israel wants U.S. guarantees that PA will disarm terror groups
    Israel is asking the United States for guarantees that the Palestinian Authority will dismantle the terrorist infrastructure in areas where it assumes security authority - as it is obligated to do under the road map peace plan - rather than settling for an agreement with the terrorist organizations on a cessation of attacks.

    PA Security Minister Mohammed Dahlan has refused to offer Israel such a pledge... "Dahlan's plan is a truce and nothing else," a senior security official said Thursday. "He told us explicitly that he has no intention of arresting activists or disarming the terrorist organizations."

    The demand for U.S. guarantees on this issue will be at the center of Israeli officials' talks with National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice...

    Rice kept up the American pressure during a visit to London Thursday, urging the Europeans to declare Hamas's political wing a terrorist organization. "The EU has listed the armed wing, but social organizations of Hamas have also got to be listed," she said at a London conference. "The notion that on the one hand, Hamas is peaceful, and on the other hand, is trying to blow up the peace process is just illogical and, we're saying, will not work."

    Other radical groups like Hezbollah, Islamic Jihad and "all of the other rejectionists" should also be targeted, she said.

    A European diplomat said Thursday that most members of the European Union now agree that Hamas's political wing should be declared a terrorist organization. France, however, is still opposed, the diplomat said, arguing that such a move would sabotage efforts to restart the Mideast peace process, as Hamas's political wing is a "popular movement" that reflects the goals and aspirations of many Palestinians.
    IMHO, France is correct this time: HAMAS is a popular movement that reflects the goals and aspirations of many Palestinians to annihilate Israel. And that is why anti-semititc Frankostan supports them!

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