Will Zinni’s Mission Succeed?

[NewsGuy]

Analysis from Debka:

Will Zinni’s Mission Succeed?

15 March: First, it depends on the nature of US envoy Anthony Zinni’s brief. If it is, as officially and publicly defined, to convince Palestinians and Israelis to suspend the grim cycle of violence and bloodshed and accept a truce – then the answer is: Not likely.

He might bring Israeli prime minister Ariel Sharon and Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat to the point of saying the right words – or even signing a paper. Any such pledge will survive only long enough to be trumpeted by the media - before it is blown away.
The reason? The Palestinians are satisfied they have terrorized Israel to a draw, and are determined to press their advantage by redoubling their onslaught.

[L@mplighterM]

Zinni will never succeed and in any event what does the word mean? Personally I find it disgusting to look at the General shaking Arafat’s hand. This is the hand that has/is calling/called for terrorist acts against children and innocents whose life was taken from them by the actions of evil.

I would spit on a hand like that even if he was about to send me to hell. I just don’t understand how the world can be so unprincipled that it has to bow down to a terrorist like that.

I was on a Jewish chat site early this morning and it’s amazing how much Arab propaganda can be found there. Truly amazing! The Arabs played the game really well presenting fiction like it was bona fide fact.

The Jewish communities should get off their behinds and start a major worldwide PR campaign. There was some talk of that some time ago but it hasn’t amounted to much at least I haven’t come across adds or anything like that.

Another thing is that Israeli politicians shouldn’t make statements to the press everything should go through a spokesperson. A statement like “I should have killed Arafat” only hurts the cause. Negative even if it’s true!
Don’t get me wrong he should have been plugged in 1983 or at the very least Israel should have left him in Tunisia.

If I believed for one minute that Arafat was sincere in his press releases even I would see Israel as the Axis of Evil. I’ll tell you all that there is many that believe in Arafat and see him as an underdog trying to lead his people to the promised Land. I suppose many could liken him to a modern day Moses.

[watcher]

It’s foolish to say anything against terrorism unless you speak against it as a whole! Yet Certain forms of terrorism are called as a part of an “axis of evil” and “palestinian” terrorism is considered completely acceptable! If “palestinians” bomb the U.S. or any other country will they still be considered acceptable? Would they become social heroes since they are such morally upright completely considerate loving compassionate people?

Zinni should've made his first stop to find bin Laden and apologize for any hardships and arrange for a cease-fire with talks to allow a peace agreement for at least half the U.S. to any involved in the 911 attacks.

[ibrodsky]

Sorry to say, the only solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is military.

It's not that I am eager to see more bloodshed. But this is reality.

What the U.S. should be doing is exposing Arafat for the terrorist that he is. The U.S. should also, at this critical juncture, be reaffirming its support for Israel.

Not only will Zinni's mission fail, but so will Cheney's.

If the U.S. really wants to force Saddam Hussein out of power, it will have to rely on its real allies in the Middle East: Israel and Turkey.

The thing that is so frustrating is that while the U.S. seeks the cooperation of oil shieks, the fact is that Israel and Turkey can provide far more military support to ridding the world of Saddam and (next) the ayatollahs in fascist Iran.

[NewsGuy]

Originally posted by L@mplighterM
Zinni will never succeed and in any event what does the word mean?

"Success" for the US and the EU, apparently means that it's ok for Arabs to slaughter Jews, just so long as Israel's self-defense reactions dont rock the boat too much to endanger the oil supply, and don't cause other Arabs to slaughter Americans.

[NewsGuy]

Originally posted by watcher
Zinni should've made his first stop to find bin Laden and apologize for any hardships and arrange for a cease-fire with talks to allow a peace agreement for at least half the U.S. to any involved in the 911 attacks.

Yes, and while Zinni's at it, he could offer bin Ladin some land right here in the US where bin Ladin would also have the right to bring 3 million more extremist Islamic refugees to live.

[NewsGuy]

Originally posted by ibrodsky
Sorry to say, the only solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is military.

It's not that I am eager to see more bloodshed. But this is reality.

What the U.S. should be doing is exposing Arafat for the terrorist that he is. The U.S. should also, at this critical juncture, be reaffirming its support for Israel.

Well said.

I agree that the only solution is military, but it needs to be drastic, and there will be unfortunately, some civilian casualties that cannot be avoided even with careful precision warfare. But it's no worse than the situation is now, and ultimately it will save both Israeli and Palestinian lives in the long run.

I've always thought that Israel needs to tell the rest of the world that for the next 6 months it will do whatever it needs to do, including mass deportation of Palestinians into Jordan (just like Kuwait did after the Gulf War) and conduct full-scale warfare against the PA.

Let the entire world scream and shout and threaten all kinds of economic sanctions and UN resolutions. Let the US cut off aid. The fact is that the Palestinian conflict would be over and within the follwing 6 months all will go back to normal.

For the time being, Israel needs to rid itself of the Palestinian enemy in its backyard and wait until there rises a future generation of Palestinians who are capable of making peace, and then peace negotiation can resume.

Sorry to sound radical, but the loss of life that is going on right now necessitates a radically different approach.

[ibrodsky]

Originally posted by NewsGuy


Sorry to sound radical, but the loss of life that is going on right now necessitates a radically different approach.

It is necessary to speak out when people are dying. It doesn't make you "radical." It just means you aren't willing to swallow the conventional wisdom that Israel deserves to be punished.

While President Bush did a good job rallying the nation and initially taking on Al Qaeda and Taliban, I don't think he understands the bigger picture: the threat of militant Islam.

Instead of repeatedly saying that Islam "Is a religion of peace," and having little chats with the Hamas supporters at CAIR, the President should have started a new Cold War. Put the onus on Islamic countries to demonstrate that they are against terrorism. We shouldn't be trying to persuade terrorist-supporting regimes to join the coalition. We should put them on the list of targets and let them sweat -- or take swift and strong steps to get themselves taken off pronto.

I'm not even convinced we have achieved anything lasting in Afghanistan. There are tens of thousands of militants in Pakistan and Iran who are willing to move in as replacements. I don't see the moderate regime we and the EU installed lasting a week on its own. As best I can tell, the Taliban and Al Qaeda have taken to the mountains and can lay low and regroup as long as it takes.

We have fallen for the UN/EU illusion that peace can be -- must be -- "negotiated." Meanwhile, PA terrorists keep operating as usual, and Saudi Arabia keeps churning out Islamists. Today, according to Ha'aretz, Islamic Jihad declared that the "Zionist entity" is on the verge of collapse. I'm sure that with the U.S. pressuring Israel it looks that way.

There is a giant contradiction in Pres. Bush's position. He has said that Israel has the right to defend itself. But he wants Israel to pull out of the PA-controlled areas immediately. It turns out that the only way Israel can defend itself is by fighting terrorists once they get inside Israel -- when it is really too late.

Fortunately, I think the PA will wreck Zinni's mission on their own. They don't want peace, they just want Israel to be pressured to give in on all of their demands. They correctly surmise that Bush wants Arab permission to attack Iraq so badly that he may be willing to sacrifice Israel -- just as Britain once sacrificed Czechloslovakia. But Sharon won't just give in; he has proved that if he senses Israel is being sacrificed he will speak out.