Home | I was being facetious. None of it happened outside the minds of the PLO. The issue of borders, and land is a farce.Originally Posted by achaaban
You seem to like arguing both sides to appear rational, and somewhat informed only to arrive at the same irrational conclusions, so you can demonize Israel.
What makes you so sure smart man/woman that this is what I want to do?
Actually redcake it was Egypt and Jordan that occupied the Palestinian Territories following the 1948 War of Independence, not the Syrians or Lebbanese.
The Syrians and Lebbanese didn't get any land from 1948 because Egypt and Jordan claimed all land based on the fact that they had fought hardest.
Uh. I was referencing the PLFP's attempted coup against Lebanon. Anyway, there was never such a thing as sovereign Palestinian territory.
I know about that, the Lebbanese really weren't doing to well under Palestinian Occupation.
Also I said Palestinian territories because there was never a Palestinian State, but I have to call it something or else I would be denying that Gaza Strip and Judea and Samaria exists.
If I thought there was ever a Palestinian State I would have said Palestine not the Palestinian Territories.
The Egyptians and the Jordanians got the land simply because this land was the West Bank and Gaza, both are land extensions to Jordan and Egypt.
Last edited by achaaban; 08-14-2005 at 09:29 AM.
Welcome to this forum, friend.
Indeed you are out of place here, but you really should not feel that way. This forum is built for your sake, our friends from around the world, and for people who wish to meet, chat and learn about Israel, Israeli politics, Jewish culture and ect... Anything from "Hot Israeli models" to religion and politics. Enjoy.
Had we wanted to speak among ourselves we would go to forums in Hebrew. like http://www.fresh.co.il Half the posters here are fluent in Hebrew as either first or second language.
I also believe in the borders of promise, and our right to reach those. I also strongly believe in my people right, the Jewish people birth right for sole ownership of the temple mount and the RE-Construction of the Temple instead of the mosque built there. (some say, converting the mosque into the Temple and consider it as a hearty gift of the Arabs to Jews).
BTW, according to our interpertation of the promise land borders, the Euphrates mentioned, is reffering to the section of the river within Syria, not Iraq. The promise land borders corralate with our King David and King Salomon (Shlomo) borders, a goal reached again only by Hashmotie Kings, a thousand years later.
What is currently under debate among Jews, is the time table. The prevalent beliefe is that both will occure at the "end of days". The exact date for the "end of days" is : "Not Yet, sorry"
Strength despite of weakness is miracle used as a proof for G-d's actions and Jewish covenant with the all mighty, is a repeated idea through out the Hebrew bible. We Jews are anciant enough to be as huge and mighty as the Chinese of Hindus, but it is never our purpose in the world.
As a matter of fact there was never something called Palestinian Sovereignty. There is Palestinian Terrorism to achieve sovereignty. However, there was Jordanian Sovereignty over the West Bank and Egyptian Sovereignty over Gaza until 1967. How could that be! And the Palestinians, in the West Bank and Gaza are still Palestinians and not Jordanian and Egyptians?
Makes me wonder, how well thought off was the peace between Israel, Egypt and Jordan. What did this peace achieve so far, when it comes to the Arab-Israeli conflict? was this peace responsible for generating terrorist states like Egypt, and Jordan, with terrorist Stars such as Zarqaoui and Zawahri, of course financed by Saudi Ben Laden.
Very true. If we could roll back time to say the early 80's, the typical Arab of the West Bank would have been outraged if you tried to call the a Palestinian. They were defiantely "Jordanian" or "Arab". Now, you meet someone who bills themself as a Palestinian and still have to ask them where they're really from.
Because your peace made them Palestinians, you were better off by keeping them Jordanians and Egyptians.
I believe we are in the "end of days" according to Ezekiel 38:7-9.originally posted by Gilgamesh What is currently under debate among Jews, is the time table. The prevalent beliefe is that both will occure at the "end of days". The exact date for the "end of days" is : "Not Yet, sorry"
This post deserves a frame. Especially in light of the recent attempts by Palestinians to disprove Jewish history in the land.
The Palestians, and all Arabs for that matter, count on the world to believe their lies. As RoofRabbit said, "all the way to the Euphrates"...and then some! But, as Aachban said, I, too, would settle for what they were given in 1948.
We need to liven up this forum!!! Any suggestions??
Name calling. Works every time.
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