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  1. #16
    Ezra
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    Originally posted by fair
    Iam still condemn all types of terrorists from both sides
    I thought you agreed on calling such people martyrs

    Your "mofti" and Sheikh of Azhar just confirmed that.. Or am I mistaken?

  2. #17
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    Yes
    they are martyrs if they died defending their homes and land
    Even Israelians would do the same if they dismissed from their homes

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    Originally posted by fair
    unfortinatly all Israeli solutions are unfair and unconvince
    "All"? Every single one of them is unfair? You see, if no solution for is ever fair and cannot be implemented, then I guess the only alternative is war, right?

    I get the impression that what is basically "unfair" to you is that Israel exists altogether and that Jews have the nerve to live in Israel in the first place.

    Under this line of thinking, I am even more convinced that Israel needs to start an all-out war of survival and forcibly move all Palestinians into Jordan, where they can live in freedom in an independent Palestinian state as they please, with no furher interference form Israel.

    "Israel must withdrew by couragious way from all arab lands without interfering in palestinian affairs"
    Meaning that Israel needs to "courageously" jump into the sea, right?

    "I am still condemn all types of terrorists from both sides"
    You condemn all types of terrorism, EXCEPT the mass murder of Israelis, becuase your excuse for that is that the Palestinian terrorists are martyrs.

    "about dictatorships of some arab countries it's non Israeli business and not plea to occupy land"
    Unfortunately, the brutal and corrupt Arab dictatorships have become Israel's problem. The Israeli/Arab conflict is being artificially kept alive by the Arab regimes to divert the anger of the Arab populations, which otherwise would be directed at their own opressive governments.

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    Ezra
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    Originally posted by fair
    Yes
    they are martyrs if they died defending their homes and land
    Even Israelians would do the same if they dismissed from their homes
    Mr. Fair,

    I think you got us all confused here. When we were talking about bombing innocent people in Malls and streets, you once said (WITH YOUR OWN WORDS) : Iam still condemn all types of terrorists from both sides (NOTE: BOTH SIDES !), then now you say : yes they are martyrs !

    Please stop fooling around, in one straight answer , what do you call Palestinians that blow themselves in Malls killing women and children:

    1) Martyrs
    2) Terrorists

    Please just choose (1) or (2) ONLY…

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    L@mplighterM
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    The only straight answerer you can get from most Muslims is crooked

  6. #21
    fair
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    Our Mofty decided that

    palestinians
    struggling and resisting occupation inside occupied land in West banck and Ghaza are martyrs when they die
    Bombing settlements also are Martyrs because settlers are invadors
    Bombing inside Israel including innocents are not martyrs and convicted
    This is Mofty and Azhar opinion not mine

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    Thus, as I understand fair to say, fair's mufti thinks that it is a wonderful thing for martyrs to blow up people, including women, children, and men, in the West Bank and Gaza.

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    Unhappy

    The thing is.......
    When you have 1.2 Billion people of your faith
    you don't need to apologize
    for the Mufti's views on murdering
    a few hundred innocent women and children
    who just happen to belong to a minority
    religion which most of the world hates anyway.

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    Originally posted by fair
    Bombing inside Israel including innocents are not martyrs and convicted
    This is Mofty and Azhar opinion not mine
    Then why are there so many suicide bombings inside Israel, like in Jerusalem, Tel Aviv, Haifa, etc.?

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    In France it's against the law to advocate/justify the killing of anyone. But hey I guess its only Jews we're talking about. I guess they don't count.

  11. #26
    Ezra
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    Originally posted by fair
    Our Mofty decided that

    palestinians
    struggling and resisting occupation inside occupied land in West banck and Ghaza are martyrs when they die
    Bombing settlements also are Martyrs because settlers are invadors
    Bombing inside Israel including innocents are not martyrs and convicted
    This is Mofty and Azhar opinion not mine
    Mr. Fair,

    Would you like me to copy, paste, and translate your "Bayan Dar el-Eftaa " (announcement of the House of Eftaa) that stated in straight words that EVERY suicide bomber against Jewish regardless of where the operation was done IS A MARTYR and prove that you are lying??

    Or you would like to do that by yourself?

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