Originally posted by Mil
Posted by BritishCap:
Well, that's rather catch all. They are rather a joke at the G8 to be fair so I think we can safely discount economic influence.
I wouldn't say so.
Their conventional armed forces are demoralised, under fed, undisciplined and using shoddy equipment.
What they show on British television and the reality are two different things.
Their nukes are incredibly expensive to maintain, and they have far more than they need which further drains their economy and as a means of exerting influence nukes that you're not going to use are no good.
Leave the above to the likes of the history channel.
Their government is widely seen as incredibly corrupt, ranked alongside Zimbabwe in the bottom 30% of Transparency Internationals Corruption Perceptions index and the perception is based on reality - Russian politics and business are deeply corrupt.
I recommend you watch less movies as well. I can put out some economic data and growth factors that prove you completely wrong.
Organised crime is out of control and is a major factor in Western reluctance to invest in their economy.
Again - if popular movie media is your source of incredible information.... then I rest my case.
So having discounted economic, moral, military and nuclear influence, what exactly are Russia exerting influence with?
Actually you haven't provided evidence for anything you said above. Russia is the second strongest country military, it's a nuclear power, it is growing economically, and enjoys huge political influence especially with its neighbors and the United States. I can tell you that the distance from Paris to Washington is a bit longer than that from Moscow to Washington.
"If Russia says jump, the rest of the world says...."
The rest of the world says nothing - just like it cannot say anything to the United States.
I'm quite confident that the majority of people would not complete this sentance with "how high?". Indeed, the more popular endings would probably be unprintable.
Apparently if Britain or rather EU says "lets jump" the rest of the world says - "Go back to UN."
I'm not having a dig at Russians,
You simply don't know what you are talking about. But that's okay, many people don't.
they have done reasonably well in the face of major change in their country, but the idea that they exert any high degree of influence these days is not credible.
My dear friend Russia is one of the few nations in the world that has a 100% independent foreign policy doctirne something that only a very select number of countries enjoy. And no, Britain is not part of this special club; neither is France, nor Germany. The only other countries are US, China, and may be - may be India. [/B]