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A self made American-- more power to him.
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A self made American-- more power to him.
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Ok so an indian-american is running for senate in the US.
abu afak...!!! what does that have to do with israel??
are pro-israeli lobbyists helping him out? if they are, then well, thanks a lot to them.
if you're an indophile, more power to ya. but i'm an indian and it feels weird that an seemingly exclusively indian-american news report should be posted as a thread in an israeli forum !!
unless you'd happen to think that india and israel have become best friends or something.
well, they have. umm....
India and Israel have become increasingly good friends for good reason.
I noticed that we had picked up several Indian posters, incuding yourself, and I thought you guys would like to know, even though it has nothing to do with Isreal per se. This being one of the Few sections where we can post non-Israel news.
He looks like a brilliant guy. (there's more on the net if you're interested and search his name).
What is the best/busiest English language India forum ?
bharat-rakshak.com is the best
Yeahh, Bharat-rakshak is pretty good.
though the people there routinely seem to be very in-touch with military-defence technology. some very technical discussions go on there...
sometimes it feels like it's a site exclusively meant for all defence technologists of the world rather than poor ordinary students like me.
in any case, it's a damn good site. you're welcome there anytime abu-afak.
and an apology is in order from my side. i understand india and israel enjoy very warm relations with each other and this relationship is growing at an exponential rate. and it's totally kool to include indian news events here.it's nice!
i personally can't wait for PM Sharon to visit india. i understand that a crowd of about 50,000 school children have volunteered to line Janpath (the street leading to The residence of the president of India) to cheer for Mr. Sharon as he pays a visit to the president the day he arrives in India.
Bobby Jindal's Rise
Louisiana's next governor may be an Indian-American Republican.
Thursday, October 9, 2003 12:01 a.m. EDT
California isn't the only state with an interesting governor's race this year. Republican Bobby Jindal, the son of immigrants from India who placed first in Louisiana's all-party primary for governor Saturday, was so unknown in the state that he wasn't even included in the first statewide poll on the race last January. But the former Rhodes Scholar will now face a runoff on Nov. 15 against Lt. Gov. Kathleen Blanco, a Democrat. If he wins, Republicans will have not only a bright new star on the national stage but a powerful symbol of their efforts at ethnic outreach.
The 32-year-old Mr. Jindal he had already impressed many in the state's elites with his intelligence and administrative ability. He became the head of the state's health-care system at age 24, director of the Breaux-Thomas national commission on Medicare at 26, president of the University of Louisiana system at 27, and a top adviser on health policy to President Bush at 29.
Former congressman Bob Livingston calls Mr. Jindal "an amazing young man." He is the rare policy wonk who can easily make the transition into politics. In his first month after he announced, he raised $538,000, he appeared constantly on talk radio shows touting his conservative agenda, and he steadily rose in the polls to eclipse all other Republicans. He won 33% in Saturday's primary, with Ms. Blanco finishing second with 18%.
The young Mr. Jindal faced enormous skepticism that a person with dark skin could succeed in Louisiana, a state in which David Duke was the runner-up for governor just a dozen years ago. Indeed, when state Rep. Jay Blossman dropped out of the race last month, he endorsed another Republican with a reference to Mr. Jindal's ethnic background: "It's unfortunate, but it is a fact, that Jindal has no chance of winning a runoff."
But the candidate has already confounded experts who predicted he would never make it past the primary. "What he's done so far has been amazing," says Wayne Parent, a political scientist at Louisiana State University. Mr. Jindal scored points by touting his political inexperience: "I'm not a politician, I'm a problem solver." His impressive machine-gun like recitations of how he would shake up state government and attract industry became the highlight of candidate debates.
He treats his Indian background as an overall plus but won't trade on it. He left the space for "race" on his qualifying papers blank and attacks the division of people along racial lines. "I'm against all quotas, all set-asides," he says. "America is the greatest. We got ahead by hard work. We shouldn't respond to every problem with a government program. Here, anyone can succeed."
Mr. Jindal certainly has. He was born in Baton Rouge in 1971, shortly after his parents moved to the U.S. His father took a job as an engineer at Exxon so that Bobby's mother could earn a degree in nuclear physics at Louisiana State University. At the age of four he dropped "Piyush" as his first name in favor or "Bobby" after a character on "The Brady Bunch." He was raised a Hindu but converted to Catholicism at Brown University. He was admitted to medical school but dropped plans to be a doctor after winning a Rhodes Scholarship. His academic background in health-care administration impressed Gov. Mike Foster, who named him to head the state's $4 billion Department of Health and Hospitals. Mr. Jindal imposed budget discipline and rooted out so much fraud that he was able to turn the state's $400 million Medicaid deficit into a surplus.
Now that he is a candidate for governor, Mr. Jindal is using his health-care expertise to tout ways to help the uninsured obtain health insurance. The way to do that, he says, is to work with the three-fourths of the uninsured who already have jobs. He proposes insurance pools in which small businesses can join together to get lower-cost premiums.
But the major issue in the governor's race is how to prevent the state from falling further behind its neighbors in economic growth. Louisiana is the only Southern state where more people are leaving than moving in.
The "bright flight" of the state's most promising young people has become the most important symbolic issue of the race. Ms. Blanco says wants to be "the governor who brought our kids back home." But she offers only vague hints on how she'd do this, if elected, other than to call for a summit of experts to examine the state's government.
For his part, Mr. Jindal rejects nostrums like tax increases on oil companies or a higher minimum wage: "The only businesses left would be the U-Haul business for people to continue to leave our state." Instead, he would eliminate business taxes on debt and manufacturing equipment and carve out a greater role for the private sector in road building and the provision of health care for the poor. He would expand school choice and allow home schooled children to participate in extracurricular activities at their local public school.
[.....]
He certainly has an appeal to the state's business community, which has showered him with contributions. He has also attracted significant media support. The New Orleans Times-Picayune, the state's leading newspaper, endorsed him by saying "Mr. Jindal possesses keen intelligence, boundless energy, a knack for winning people over and getting things done. To meet him is to be impressed." Now the challenge for Mr. Jindal is how many people he can contact and impress before the Nov. 15 runoff.
Mr. Fund is a contributor to OpinionJournal's Political Diary, a premium e-mail service edited by Holman Jenkins. Click here for a sneak preview.
http://www.opinionjournal.com/diary/?id=110004134
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i looked up your link and found it pretty disturbing that Andak is using ISRAELFORUM to ridicule on other posts.Originally posted by abu afak
the post:andak01 Holds IsraelForum up to ridicule:
http://www.upsizethis.org/forum/view...er=asc&start=0
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Did other people on this forum notice this? Did anyone else react to this? Is this within the bylaws of the Israel Forum? Did the Moderators allow this sort of propaganda against Israel Forum?
I think that is unethical. Not that his arguments are much better many times, but to actually use discussion to promote hatered and ridicule on other posts by removing Israel Forum posts out of the context of the location and forum is hitting under the belt, spitting in your face, back stabbing, and actually why am I surprised?
I am disappointed to see this, although I find Andak01 annoying and a phony and an opportunist I thought that he had somewhat of an attachment here. But this shows that he couldn't give a flying F*%#K! he is definitely ready to oblige his Muslim mentors and promote hatered if he can only get around to the appropriate moment to pounce on Jews/Israel.
I am disgusted now by his two faced chutzpa!
Thank you for bringing this to our attention! I hope others are aware of this.
the post:andak01 Holds IsraelForum up to ridicule:
http://www.upsizethis.org/forum/vie...der=asc&start=0
BELOW IS SOME OF THE DISCUSSION THAT ANDAK01 BROUGHT TO ANOTHER WEB SITE FORUM: notice that hatered was achieved and the last post here says it loud and clear:"That forum reminds me of why I hate Israelis almost as much as I hate Americans. "
NICE WORK ANDAK01 VERY PEACEFUL ISLAM, I SEE HOW THAT WORKS NOW ALL OVER AGAIN!
IDF kills American peace activist
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Here's the reaction to the story on Israelforum.com.
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suicide bombers but stop when one of these foreign peace activists throws themselves in front of the home? That's only going to encourage them to protest more.
What was I thinking? Of course we need to bulldoze peace activists! It's not like they're human beings, after all.
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Stunning huh, that grandstanding. It would be awfully nice to believe that mentality isn't part of the "road map" but...
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Moffitar wrote:
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2. Continue demolishing the homes belonging to the relatives of
suicide bombers but stop when one of these foreign peace activists throws themselves in front of the home? That's only going to encourage them to protest more.
What was I thinking? Of course we need to bulldoze peace activists! It's not like they're human beings, after all.
What was the saying? Beware of who you choose to become your enemy because you'll come to resemble them.
Another disgrace to put on the pile with all the other senseless murders. And this will prevent suicide bombers, how?
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Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2003 9:43 pm Post subject: Re: IDF kills American peace activist
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They just bulldozed her to death.
Way to make friends and influence people!
Quick better bomb Iraq..and avoid any resolutions stopping it.
Whatreallyhappened.com istrying to see if theres any dots to connect between the push on Iraq and any Israeli influence..
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This regarding the young woman's death posted on israelforum.com:
"She deliberately chose to die and made extraordinary efforts to get underneath the bulldozer -- just to defend and support Islamic terrorism.
I only wish that more Islamic terrorists and their supporters would manage to get themselves underneath moving bulldozers. The world would truly be a better place." - posted by NewsGuy
Morally superior, eh?
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Newsguy is one of the moderators.
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That forum reminds me of why I hate Israelis almost as much as I hate Americans.
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Since the above was ammended to include OTHER PEOPLE'S COMMENTS FROM ANOTHER BOARD. I am really amazed. Now what someone else says on another board is reason to condemn me on this one. Really fair.
What ridicule??? I merely pointed to a link with no comment whatsoever.Originally posted by Batman
i looked up your link and found it pretty disturbing that Andak is using ISRAELFORUM to ridicule on other posts.
What propoganda? I provided the link and said:Did other people on this forum notice this? Did anyone else react to this? Is this within the bylaws of the Israel Forum? Did the Moderators allow this sort of propaganda against Israel Forum?
"Here's the reaction to the story on Israelforum.com."
What context is missing? I don't even provide a quote, merely a link to the website.I think that is unethical. Not that his arguments are much better many times, but to actually use discussion to promote hatered and ridicule on other posts by removing Israel Forum posts out of the context of the location and forum is hitting under the belt, spitting in your face, back stabbing, and actually why am I surprised?
Upsize this isn't a Muslim site. I don't make a point of promoting hatred. But I will defend myself against personal attacks.I am disappointed to see this, although I find Andak01 annoying and a phony and an opportunist I thought that he had somewhat of an attachment here. But this shows that he couldn't give a flying F*%#K! he is definitely ready to oblige his Muslim mentors and promote hatered if he can only get around to the appropriate moment to pounce on Jews/Israel.
Let me say this. It doesn't serve anyone to spread hatred. Because hateful things you say can be used out of context against you. That goes for Muslims, Jews and everyone. Secondly, hate speech doesn't serve any of us. It's not productive to anything.
Last edited by andak01; 10-14-2003 at 03:43 AM.
If you don't want an alleyfight then stay out of the alley. For someone's who's been here so much you should be able to read ahead and guess that you fellow posters there are going to jump to the conclusion this site is
a) Israeli
b) a mouthpiece for Israelis
c) an official position for anything
It is not honest on your part to not preface your link with something more around it. But no one expects you to be an ambassador, so .....whatever. And all the so called balanced sites that say things like "Now I know why I hate Israelis almost as much as I hate Americans" (one of the links already provided on Upsize) are getting their due.
I'm not even that offended one way or the other. Because frankly I give up. We could talk here forever and there would still be 95% of the internet sites out there screaming for mounds of dead Jews anyway. So all I can suggest to the peaceful peaceloving people of peace up upsize.com is to quietly choke in the smoky flames of hell.
You can link to this post there if you wish. None of those cowards have the balls to come here. And I simply don't care what all the haters, children, cowards, faux terrorist wannabees, idiots college activists and sick perverted monsters wonder about.
Yep.
I detest shenanigans like this. The "Who, me?" thing just falls flat.
Many of them post on many various boards including here and they are pretty well aware of what Israelforum is and isn't. I would imagine that a mouthpiece for Israelis would be in Hebrew, at least partially and might have a il suffix.Originally posted by Mediocrates
If you don't want an alleyfight then stay out of the alley. For someone's who's been here so much you should be able to read ahead and guess that you fellow posters there are going to jump to the conclusion this site is
a) Israeli
b) a mouthpiece for Israelis
c) an official position for anything
Keep in mind that, out of maybe 5000 posts on various boards, this is the most offensive thing Abu could dredge up on me. It's not as if I was preaching holocaust denial or ranting hate speech.It is not honest on your part to not preface your link with something more around it. But no one expects you to be an ambassador, so .....whatever.
I wouldn't call Upsize this a balance site. In fact, it was born from Michael Moore's forum. It hasn't been getting a lot of traffic lately, why I stopped going there.And all the so called balanced sites that say things like "Now I know why I hate Israelis almost as much as I hate Americans" (one of the links already provided on Upsize) are getting their due.
So tell us, O righteous andak01, what is your position regarding Rachel Corrie?
Does Israel have the right to defend itself against terrorist mass murderers and their supporters?
Try not to evade the question.
Is that two questions? Or are you suggesting that Rachel Corrie was a mass murderer and a terrorist?Originally posted by ibrodsky
So tell us, O righteous andak01, what is your position regarding Rachel Corrie?
Does Israel have the right to defend itself against terrorist mass murderers and their supporters?
Try not to evade the question.
Because if you can prove that she was, then sure, Israel had the right to defend against her.
If you second question is separate, then I would say we need to define defense. Nobody denies people the right to defend themselves. But definitions of defense get pretty broad.
Jihadis usually claim that THEY are defending themselves. So defense has been historically used as an excuse for a lot of aggression. Our own Department of Defense has begun a preemptive policy where almost any military incursion can be claimed to be defensive.
But I am not going to deny Israel the rights that other nations have. That in itself separates me from a large number of people both Muslim and non-Muslim. Israel, IMHO has established its right to exist. We are quibbling about the manner of its existance, not the fact of it.
Brodsky asks the wrong Question, and therefore gives andak a plausible answer.
There is no evidence the Driver intentionally ran over Rachel Corrie. Indeed, apparently she had been playing 'Bulldozer Tag' all day with him avoiding her and stopping, and finally she just slipped off a mound under a vehicle that even without the extra armor this one had, has poor Visibility.
Trying to call an act we don't know (and I don't think) was intentional, as "Israel defending herself against Terror" is WAY WAY Off Brodsky.
(thats 2 from far left field today)
What we do know is this angry sick soul burned her own flag in favor of the Murderous Palestinians.
Yep .. That was andak. saying "who Me?"Originally posted by Donna
Yep.
I detest shenanigans like this. The "Who, me?" thing just falls flat.
Yeah .. they (upsizethis) were having a Feeding Frenzy over "Israel's Murder of American Rachel Corrie"...
and andak tossed them some Red Meat.
IsraelForum, and Moderator NewsGuy.
Just More Disingenuos/Dishonest Andak.
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