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    L@mplighterM
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    Will Iran beat the September 08 deadline?

    Russia Sells Iran AVLIS System for Advanced Uranium Enrichment

    DEBKAfile Exclusive Report

    August 28, 2003, 9:31 AM (GMT+02:00)





    The Vienna-based International Atomic Energy Agency – IAEA – put out a disturbing report this week confirming earlier DEBKAfile revelations that traces of uranium enrichment activity were found in samples at Natanz nuclear facility in Iran, 290 km south of Tehran, evidence that Iran was in the process of building a nuclear arsenal.

    Agency officials admit that Tehran is in clear non-compliance with its nuclear safeguard obligations and may even have laid itself open to a complaint to the UN Security Council and the threat of sanctions.

    In issue Number 120, published on August 8, DEBKA-Net-Weekly’s military sources reported exclusively that in the second week of July Russia secretly delivered the components of the AVLIS (atomic vapor laser isotope separator) system aboard unmarked military transports.

    This accelerated and environmentally clean process of uranium enrichment was first developed at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, California, for the US Department of Energy in the 1970s. In 1998, the Iranians were reported working on their own AVLIS. The version supplied by Russian is apparently based on more advanced technology. While the US energy department suspended AVLIS development in 1998, the Russians appear to have stepped up production, counting on an expanding future exports to governments bent on acquiring nuclear weapons, such as Saddam Hussein’s Iraq, Iran, Libya, Syria, North Korea, India and Pakistan.

    The Russian components came with Russian technicians for assembling the apparatus and teaching Iranian nuclear technicians how to use it.

    According to the information obtained by DEBKA-Net-Weekly , AVLIS has been installed at two of Iran’s uranium enrichment facilities, Natanz and Moallen Kalayeh. The latter is Iran’s most secluded subterranean nuclear plant, buried under the Albroz Mountains 40 km north of Tehran. In its tall tunnels, Iran carries out its most secret tests.

    Moallen Kalayeh used to be a small rural village. Today it is a closed township populated by hundreds of scientists and technicians. It is also one of the most heavily protected places in the country. The Iranians are putting the new equipment to work at top speed at the peak of their effort to build up a stock of enriched uranium sufficient for a nuclear device before September 8, when the Nuclear Atomic Energy Agency’s board convenes in Vienna to discuss the Iran report.

    Tehran has also been racing against the clock to forestall decisions at the six-nation talks on North Korea’s nuclear program that began in Beijing August 27, before they impede Iran’s related progress towards a nuclear weapon. Attending the talks are the US, the two Koreas, Japan, Russia and China, the host.

    According to our Moscow sources, Russian military circles as certain that without that AVLIS would not have been consigned to Iran without the okay of President Vladimir Putin. He would have seen the delivery as a means of getting round his promise to President George W. Bush not to send Iran spent nuclear rods to fuel the Bushehr nuclear reactor and a way of compensating Iran for this letdown.

    http://www.debka.com/article.php?aid=549

    According to this article the Cold War with Russia is continuing and we don’t even know it. If this article is correct Russia under the leadership of Putin has supplied Iran with the technology to become a nuclear power.

    At this point severe questions should be raised about the Bush Administrations ability to stop enemy nations from developing WMD. North Korea entered the nuclear age while Bush was in Power and it looks like Iran will be next.

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    Evgeny
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    what would you do about. Maybe the U.S.A will "liberate" Iran?

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    porcupine
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    I really hope this is true...

    Targeting Iran
    Israel has ready a plan to bomb Iran's Bushehr nuclear-power plant should the Persian Gulf coast facility, now under construction, begin producing weapons-grade material, an insider tells us.
    This source says Israel has mapped out a route its jet fighters would take to destroy what is designed to be a two-reactor plant. A successful strike would ensure that the radical Tehran regime does not develop nuclear weapons. Iran has tested 600-mile-range ballistic missiles that can reach Israel and carry nuclear, biological or chemical warheads.

    Russia has signed an $800 million contract to provide two reactors for the plant near the port city of Bushehr. The United States opposes the deal, as well as any nuclear program in Iran.
    Israeli F-16s penetrated Iraqi airspace in 1981 to bomb the Osiraq nuclear-power plant, at the Tuwaitha nuclear center near Baghdad. Analysts believe the action, while condemned by the international community, kept Saddam Hussein from acquiring the bomb.
    U.S. Central Command has contingency plans for war with Iran, but there is no active discussion of invading a country that President Bush has put in the "axis of evil." Still, some in the Pentagon talk unofficially of what would be needed to take out the Bushehr plant.
    http://www.washtimes.com/national/inring.htm

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    This is the worst kept secret since the apple in Eden. Everyone knows that Russia is building atomic bombs for Iran. Why else would they build 5-6 nuclear plants in a country that is already 100% energy self sufficient?
    ............

    Well one thing I would do is remove all American stategic weapons, AWACS and counter missile systems from Western Europe in order to push the EU squarely in the kill radius of Iranian atomic tipped missiles. Then I would show all the information I had about Russia to the EU in case they had any questions about that country to the East that's making noises about joining the EU. Then I would buy the British base at Diego Garcia outright and use it as 24/7 operational platform for air missions around Iran. Then I would take the money previously spent on American nuclear presence in Europe and give it to India. Then I would make incessant noises world wide demanding the immediate decommissioning of the Russian nuclear navy for reasons of safety.

    Wouldn't it be wonderfully ironic though if Russian built tactical nuclear weapons found their way into the hands of Chechnyans?

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    Medio

    Iran needs to protect itself from israeli aggresion. If indeed they do have nukes then they will only be used for self defence. I know this angers Israel and America because then how will they "liberate" and install democrasy in Iran?

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    Re: Medio

    Originally posted by Evgeny
    Iran needs to protect itself from israeli aggresion. If indeed they do have nukes then they will only be used for self defence. I know this angers Israel and America because then how will they "liberate" and install democrasy in Iran?

    Ths is completely insane nonsense. No one wants anything of the Islamic Revolution other than an opportunity to defend one's self from it. Khamenei has already said that when, not if, when Iran gets the bomb they will use it on Tel Aviv. Israel isn't going to wake up one day look around, decide that not enough muslims hate them and go nuke Teheran. Where do you get this stuff.

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    Re: Medio

    Originally posted by Evgeny
    Iran needs to protect itself from israeli aggresion. If indeed they do have nukes then they will only be used for self defence. I know this angers Israel and America because then how will they "liberate" and install democrasy in Iran?
    Exactly how many times has the US used nuclear weapons since the bombing of Japan?
    Which country has Israel threatened with nuclear annihilation, since acquiring its weapons?

    On the other hand Pakistan and Iran has threatened to use nuclear bombs as a first strike.

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    U.S.A is the ONLY country to ever drop the atom bomb!!! Iran would never launch an attack on Israel because they know they will be destroyed. They keep it as self defence so israel does not bomb their factories. Pakistan on the other hand is a partner of the U.S.A and if one of their Sheiks smuggles one to israel America will not let israel react.

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    Israel 'would bomb Iran nuclear plant'

    Israel has made plans to bomb an Iranian nuclear power plant if it begins producing weapons grade material, it was reported today.

    Military commanders have mapped out a route Israeli fighter jets would take to destroy the Bushehr reactor on the Persian Gulf, officials told the Washington Times.

    Russia has been helping Iran to build its first nuclear plant for eight years in a deal worth about £500 million to Moscow.

    Both countries say it is purely for civilian purposes.

    But the US claims Iran could use the technology to build a nuclear bomb, and President George Bush is expected raise the issue with Russian leader Vladimir Putin at next month's Camp David summit.

    Russia said this week it would stop building the plant if the UN nuclear watchdog presents "concrete evidence" that Tehran is secretly developing banned weapons.

    Iran has tested 600-mile-range ballistic missiles that can reach Israel and carry nuclear, biological or chemical warheads.

    In 1981, Israel bombed the Iraqi Osiraq nuclear-power plant, near Baghdad, in an operation that drew widespread international criticism.

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    Originally posted by Evgeny
    Iran would never launch an attack on Israel because they know they will be destroyed. They keep it as self defence so israel does not bomb their factories.

    *LOL* Sure!

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    In 1981, Israel bombed the Iraqi Osiraq nuclear-power plant, near Baghdad, in an operation that drew widespread international criticism.




    Do you know where they got the idea? The Iranians tried it the previous year using two American built F4A Phantom -2's. The Iranians neglected to plan for cracking the pressure containment dome and their bombs hit the dome and slid down the side then exploded outside the outer perimeter wall. The Israelis studied this and worked out a 4 plane operation. Two would pierce the dome and two would bomb through the opening.


    Criticism? Who cares.

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    Originally posted by Mediocrates
    In 1981, Israel bombed the Iraqi Osiraq nuclear-power plant, near Baghdad, in an operation that drew widespread international criticism.




    Do you know where they got the idea? The Iranians tried it the previous year using two American built F4A Phantom -2's. The Iranians neglected to plan for cracking the pressure containment dome and their bombs hit the dome and slid down the side then exploded outside the outer perimeter wall. The Israelis studied this and worked out a 4 plane operation. Two would pierce the dome and two would bomb through the opening.


    Criticism? Who cares.
    Absolutely! Someone out there must also believe in the tooth fairy...
    Israel will face condemnation from the global community, no matter what she does to defend herself! As mentioned, who cares!!

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    minusthejihad
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    Originally posted by Mediocrates
    In 1981, Israel bombed the Iraqi Osiraq nuclear-power plant, near Baghdad, in an operation that drew widespread international criticism.




    Do you know where they got the idea? The Iranians tried it the previous year using two American built F4A Phantom -2's. The Iranians neglected to plan for cracking the pressure containment dome and their bombs hit the dome and slid down the side then exploded outside the outer perimeter wall. The Israelis studied this and worked out a 4 plane operation. Two would pierce the dome and two would bomb through the opening.


    Criticism? Who cares.
    HA HA! How come every time I think of Arab terrorists or even Generals planning attacks, I think of the terrorists from the movie "True Lies"?

    Man, I would have loved to see the missiles sliding down the side of the reactor! I'd even love to see the pilots' faces as they tried to figure out why it didn't work! LOL!

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