Israel Wounds Hamas Leader Sheik Yassin

[NewsGuy]

From news article:

Hamas leader Yassin lightly hurt in IAF strike in Gaza

By Arnon Regular and Amos Harel, Haaretz Correspondents, and Agencies

Witnesses say Israel Air Force helicopter gunships
fired missiles at a building in Gaza City, in the
north Gaza Strip on Saturday afternoon, lightly
injuring Hamas spiritual leader Sheikh Ahmed
Yassin.

According to Hamas and other
Palestinian sources, the
spiritual leader and an
assistant had recently left the
building that was targeted
shortly prior to the attack.

Witnesses are saying Sheikh
Yassin and his aide were rushed
away in a car.


The wheelchair bound Sheikh Yassin, who is
co-founder of Hamas, was reportedly treated for
his injuries at Gaza City's Shifa Hospital.

Finally, Israel gets serious about eliminating Hamas.

[RichardP]

Originally posted by NewsGuy

From news article:

Hamas leader Yassin lightly hurt in IAF strike in Gaza

By Arnon Regular and Amos Harel, Haaretz Correspondents, and Agencies

Witnesses say Israel Air Force helicopter gunships
fired missiles at a building in Gaza City, in the
north Gaza Strip on Saturday afternoon, lightly
injuring Hamas spiritual leader Sheikh Ahmed
Yassin.

According to Hamas and other
Palestinian sources, the
spiritual leader and an
assistant had recently left the
building that was targeted
shortly prior to the attack.

Witnesses are saying Sheikh
Yassin and his aide were rushed
away in a car.


The wheelchair bound Sheikh Yassin, who is
co-founder of Hamas, was reportedly treated for
his injuries at Gaza City's Shifa Hospital.

Finally, Israel gets serious about eliminating Hamas.

If at first you don't succeed... try, try again... again, and again!
They'll get this troll eventually.

[Barak]

Ismail Haniyah, Muhammed Deif, Rantisi, Abu Ras, Yassin, almost everybody was in a single appartement building. It was as if it was a dream! And what do we do?? we drop a bomb of just 250 kg....why? because we are afraid of dropping a one ton bomb as we did in july last year when we killed Shehada and there was 'relatively a lot of collateral damage'. So what do we do when there is a ones in a lifetime oppurtunity?? We adjust our modus operandi and decide to usw a much smaller bomb, just because we don't want to be condemned... As if we won't be condemned if we just killed everybody we mean to kill. Hey, if even we manager to kill obl, the world would say we used excessive force.
We could have get rid of all of them this afternoon, if only we had the courage to really do something about it, and really stand behind that decision.
I mean, all hell is loose, if it wasn't already, so we had better make sure they would be killed.
I just hope we will get another chance and learn from this mistake. If we decide to go after someone make sure you use the right ordnance and make sure he won't survive.

[Donna]

Originally posted by RichardP
If at first you don't succeed... try, try again... again, and again!
They'll get this troll eventually.

Sheik 'N Bake.

[Lowell]

I just wonder how cost effective it is to use million dollar missiles on these worthless terrorists. Why not just have an IDF soldier in Arab dress ride by on a motorcycle and drop a grenade in their lap? Same result, less cost. At least they'd sing in a higher octave.

[alexbmn]

on hand itere Yassin and rantissi are at all times. Muhammed Deif however.... seems they wasted a golden opportunity again because they were mercifull when they needed to be cruel ,on the other they probably do know wh

[RichardP]

Originally posted by alexbmn
on hand itere Yassin and rantissi are at all times. Muhammed Deif however.... seems they wasted a golden opportunity again because they were mercifull when they needed to be cruel ,on the other they probably do know wh

Apparently the building was a nest of these rats! I pray we get another shot at them, but as someone mentioned... it was a chance in a lifetime. I am certain, Israel feared massive collateral damage, thus used a quarter ton bomb. It angers me to no end, that world opinion has once again tied Israel’s hand behind her back.

[rhodescholar]

Originally posted by RichardP
Apparently the building was a nest of these rats! I pray we get another shot at them, but as someone mentioned... it was a chance in a lifetime. I am certain, Israel feared massive collateral damage, thus used a quarter ton bomb. It angers me to no end, that world opinion has once again tied Israel’s hand behind her back.

You are wrong, VERY wrong.

Israel has ALLOWED themselves to be controlled by world opinion. There is a huge difference.

The US is hit, and it takes out a country.

Moscow hostages are taken, and russia kills over 100 people - of their own citizens - plus several dozen terrorists.

I am not sure what it will take for the israeli leadership to expunge the "niceness" disease that encompasses jews, but i hope it doesnt take more lives.

If given a choice, i'd rather my family and I be alive than be moral "guiding lights" unto all peoples, a stupid dream that is part of what has kept jews from doing what they should have fro centuries.

THAT is the reason there is so much anti-semitism. Not because of some nonsensical stroy about being jesus-killers, but because jews DONT FIGHT BACK. You can hit them over and over, and they just accept it, or run to others to protect them.

[Lowell]

Originally posted by rhodescholar
You are wrong, VERY wrong.

Israel has ALLOWED themselves to be controlled by world opinion. There is a huge difference.

The US is hit, and it takes out a country.

Moscow hostages are taken, and russia kills over 100 people - of their own citizens - plus several dozen terrorists.

I am not sure what it will take for the israeli leadership to expunge the "niceness" disease that encompasses jews, but i hope it doesnt take more lives.

If given a choice, i'd rather my family and I be alive than be moral "guiding lights" unto all peoples, a stupid dream that is part of what has kept jews from doing what they should have fro centuries.

THAT is the reason there is so much anti-semitism. Not because of some nonsensical stroy about being jesus-killers, but because jews DONT FIGHT BACK. You can hit them over and over, and they just accept it, or run to others to protect them.

It is not a 'stupid dream', rhodescholar, but a noble vision that has given the world a large measure of whatever civilization there is in the world. You cite the US and Russia as models of anti-terrorism effort but once Israel unleashes her dogs of war she will make those two look like rank amateurs. Do not forget that Israel once fought the mighty Roman Empire to a standstill not once but three times, and in modern times she has destroyed massed Arab armies on several occasions. What other people, ancient or modern- and Israel is both- can claim this?

[RichardP]

Originally posted by Lowell
It is not a 'stupid dream', rhodescholar, but a noble vision that has given the world a large measure of whatever civilization there is in the world. You cite the US and Russia as models of anti-terrorism effort but once Israel unleashes her dogs of war she will make those two look like rank amateurs. Do not forget that Israel once fought the mighty Roman Empire to a standstill not once but three times, and in modern times she has destroyed massed Arab armies on several occasions. What other people, ancient or modern- and Israel is both- can claim this?

Right on target, Lowell, as hard as I try grasping Rhodescholar’s hypothesis on the whys and wherefores of anti-Semitism, I cannot agree. That said, this is what the forum is all about, exchanging and debating issues. I would wager if polled most people would not agree with this thesis: that anti-Semitism is endemic as Jews won’t fight back. Yes, they have had to soft pedal at times because of world opinion and the fear of bad PR. As you indicated Lowell, history also does not back this theory either.
There are those to whom The Holocaust is a prime indicator of the Jews being led to slaughter without a fight: though many did. It was not just Jews who were led to their death by the Nazi scum. Those of other ethnicity, religion, political affiliations etc. have mentioned that they too were led to the camps with little or no resistance. There are many reasons for this passivity which would take too long to discuss presently.
As I mentioned to Rhodescholar earlier, there would be no Israel or Jews if he was correct in his assumption.
I am certain that there are anti-Semites who see Jews as easy victims. After all there are pacifists in every state, culture and/or religion. Collectively the Jews will fight to the death, the proof as said, is in the State of Israel… and it will always be thus.
Saying that, it is worth thrashing about this assertion of yours, Rhodescholar. Cheers!

[ibrodsky]

I just got back from being in the country since Friday afternoon. I was surprised by the number of developments in such a short time.

In the Arab ME, the mass murderer is exalted and elevated to position of "spiritual leader." I'm glad Israel finally tried to vaporize Sheikh Yassin. This man is pure evil.

But it's sad to see Condoleeza Rice quoted saying that Israel should not take action against The Father of Modern Terrorism, Yaser Arafat. I guess that since that particular mass murderer is exalted by both the Arab ME and Europe he must be protected so he can continue to mastermind death and destruction.

This reminds of the Russian joke under Communism: "We pretend to work and they pretend to pay us." In the War Against Islamism, the equivalent saying might be "They pretend ethic cleansing is a legitimate form of 'resistance', and we pretend to fight them."

[ibrodsky]

I see Colin Powell has explicitly stated that the US opposes Israeli attacks on Hamas leadership. The stated reason was that such attacks only create more Hamas members.

If the Bush administration really believes this nonsense, then clearly it should stop pursuing Al Qaeda and other islamist mass murder groups, as doing so will only create more Al Qaeda members.

Unfortunately, President Bush is not up to the task of leading the fight against Islamism. He does not even possess the courage to identify the enemy by name.

Nor are any Democrats--particularly the spineless Joe Lieberman. It may not be until this country suffers an even worse catastrophe before we come to our senses and elect a leader committed to defeating Islamists on every front.

[RichardP]

Originally posted by ibrodsky
I see Colin Powell has explicitly stated that the US opposes Israeli attacks on Hamas leadership. The stated reason was that such attacks only create more Hamas members.

If the Bush administration really believes this nonsense, then clearly it should stop pursuing Al Qaeda and other islamist mass murder groups, as doing so will only create more Al Qaeda members.

Unfortunately, President Bush is not up to the task of leading the fight against Islamism. He does not even possess the courage to identify the enemy by name.

Nor are any Democrats--particularly the spineless Joe Lieberman. It may not be until this country suffers an even worse catastrophe before we come to our senses and elect a leader committed to defeating Islamists on every front.

These people are complete dip wads, who do they think they are? You are so right when saying; perhaps it will take another catastrophic attack on the US to refresh their selective memories. Sadly, Bush and his and his anal clique of advisors are not up to the task of fighting Islamic Terrorism. Perchance they are in need of psycho-therapy or a visit to a proctologist: with the hope of determining what became of their courage to battle these murderous Islamic hordes.
As this crisis deepens it seemingly turns more surreal… all we need now is for Hillary to run for the Democratic nomination, wins and Bubba Clinton becomes the First Lady.

[wellofvow]

Originally posted by ibrodsky
I see Colin Powell has explicitly stated that the US opposes Israeli attacks on Hamas leadership. The stated reason was that such attacks only create more Hamas members.

If the Bush administration really believes this nonsense, then clearly it should stop pursuing Al Qaeda and other islamist mass murder groups, as doing so will only create more Al Qaeda members.

Colin Powell has deliberately and blatantly thwarted, obstructed, and subverted the stated policy of his boss, the President of the United States. Anyone else, in any other job in the United States, would most probably have been fired long ago.

Why hasn't Powell been fired?

As I tried to explain to someone at work just now, policy is not about what is best for the country or its citizens. Policy is ONLY about staying in power. The sad, even pathetic, point is that this is as true of Bush as it is of Arafat as it is of Sharon (and other parties, other countries).

[wellofvow]

Originally posted by rhodescholar
You are wrong, VERY wrong.

Israel has ALLOWED themselves to be controlled by world opinion. There is a huge difference.

I rather tend to agree with this. How does that saying go? - something like you cannot be humiliated unless you AGREE to it.

I often wonder what would have happened if Rabin had not been assassinated. Yeah, I voted for him, but often thought him simple-minded for allowing Peres to lead him around by the nose, and sometimes an out-and-out SOB (as in when he yelled at a group of Israeli-Americans who were protesting Oslo "Why don't you go back to America?"). Still and all, what with his trigger-temper, I cannot help but wonder if he would have let Israel get so botched up.

Ah well, probably yes, recalling the outrageous behavior of his widow, who IMO should have been tried as a witch by an old-fashioned bet din, and suffered the old-fashioned penalty.