Israel Wounds Hamas Leader Sheik Yassin

[Lowell]

I'm not so quick to negatively judge Bush, Powell and Rice as unmitigated failures. As the President has said repeatedly, this is a different kind of war that may last a long time, and will certainly use subterfuges and ploys as strategy against terrorists. For example I think his speech last night was directed more at Islamists than the American people. This is why he called Iraq the central front in the war, in order to draw the otherwise elusive terrorists to Iraq where they will be easier to hunt and kill. In a similar vein he has said that Islam is peace, with the unstated implication 'or else'. If this is the case and Bush and his advisors are using mind games as part of the overall strategy, it follows that his critics in the US and elsewhere are the clueless ones, not the President. Patience is needed- Rome was not built in a day, and the world will not be re-built without terrorism in a year or two.

[RichardP]

Originally posted by Lowell
I'm not so quick to negatively judge Bush, Powell and Rice as unmitigated failures. As the President has said repeatedly, this is a different kind of war that may last a long time, and will certainly use subterfuges and ploys as strategy against terrorists. For example I think his speech last night was directed more at Islamists than the American people. This is why he called Iraq the central front in the war, in order to draw the otherwise elusive terrorists to Iraq where they will be easier to hunt and kill. In a similar vein he has said that Islam is peace, with the unstated implication 'or else'. If this is the case and Bush and his advisors are using mind games as part of the overall strategy, it follows that his critics in the US and elsewhere are the clueless ones, not the President. Patience is needed- Rome was not built in a day, and the world will not be re-built without terrorism in a year or two.

I am disappointed with Bush's mishandling of Israel's war against Palestinian Terrorists. I hope that as you mentioned Lowell, he and his advisors are employing mind games as a means to an end. I also believe that some if not most have forgotten that Bush had said, this is going to be a long war and different than any war fought thus far in the history of warfare (I paraphrase). However, the Bush Administrations rhetoric when Israel reacts in self defence or their attacks on Hamas or other terrorist rat nests, to me is wrong. Dead wrong.
Saying this, I feel that Bush is the only man on the scene, up to the difficult task which lies ahead. When the horrors of 9-11 unfolded, I thanked G-d that Bubba (Bill) had removed himself and his humidor from the Oval Office. Because there was a President, whom believed he could suck and blow at the same time; not to mention his administration and assortment of lackeys.
With the upcoming election, I can only hope that Bush wins a second term. If the Democrats do… G-d help us all!
I realise Bush has many detractors on these boards. If they have someone they feel could be more competent, please let me know! The Democrats would sacrifice Israel without a blink… and the US not far behind.
Colorado skitter patrol… sounds pretty deet, Lowell: I’ll volunteer if no one else does.
Cheers Lowell… back to the swamp for me!!

[Lowell]

Originally posted by RichardP

Saying this, I feel that Bush is the only man on the scene, up to the difficult task which lies ahead.

I thought you said Bush is a dip wad?

[RichardP]

Originally posted by Lowell
I thought you said Bush is a dip wad?

Aye Lowell, but there are bigger dip-wads than he!! I'd take dip-wad Bush over anyone else at the moment! Not being two faced, I don't like his policy towards Israel... What is the alternative?
I believe he is a good man and President, buit don't agree with some of his reactions in the ME...
Can you imagine how clinton would've handled this? It was partly his slack off terms which got us into this mess. He was more interested in cigars not to mention a few other hobbies!

[Lowell]

Originally posted by RichardP
Aye Lowell, but there are bigger dip-wads than he!! I'd take dip-wad Bush over anyone else at the moment! Not being two faced, I don't like his policy towards Israel... What is the alternative?
I believe he is a good man and President, buit don't agree with some of his reactions in the ME...
Can you imagine how clinton would've handled this? It was partly his slack off terms which got us into this mess. He was more interested in cigars not to mention a few other hobbies!

Hey, I like cigars myself. Don't blame cigars. OK, you're the US President... how will you manage this here war on terrorism without endangering Israel?

[SteveMetch]

I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.

[frizzer1]

Originally posted by SteveMetch
I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.

He can't approve that policy.He's only a grunt.

[RichardP]

Originally posted by Lowell
Hey, I like cigars myself. Don't blame cigars. OK, you're the US President... how will you manage this here war on terrorism without endangering Israel?

That's a damn good question, Lowell. Believe it or not I've asked myself the same question. Honestly, I would probably blow it...
Not in the classical Bill Clinton sense.
I would after this period of time, ask myself about my choice of advisors. After all we are only as good as the people around us; wanting to know if we are on the same wave length with the task at hand. If not there would be some hard nosed decision making.
As regards to Israel, I believe that they are a sovereign state with the right to handle their security etc. any way they may choose. If any other state was asked to hold off after being attacked by terrorists: I am more than certain they would tell whomever that asked, to go to hell! Israel has bent over backwards to most demands from the US.
As president I would not be spouting off drivel such as ‘Islam is a peaceful religion’. Nor would I be kissing the butts of certain Islamic/Arab states. Now you know I would not be a good president.
I was never against Iraqi Freedom, but was aware the aftermath was going to be worse than the actual war. You and many others also were aware of this I am certain.
I would in all likelihood give an ultimatum to those states, not to forget the PA and their fellow reptilian terrorists… tear up the “Road Map”, place a time frame for them to decide if they were truly serious about peace. And if they didn’t comply, come down harder on them than they could ever imagine.
The power struggle between the western democracies is another issue…
Islam terrorists are going to nickel and dime us to death if this path of uncertainty continues. It is happening to the troops in Iraq, Afghanistan and needless to say, Israel.
That’s why I don’t want to be an armchair Commander-in-Chief: this doesn’t mean I can’t or won’t criticize Bush, I will! However, a dip-wad he may be at times, but as said there are bigger dip-wads who couldn’t fill his shoes if they tried. I like the man but I am concerned about some of the advisors, but I’m not privy to what is truly said. Like most I hear what the press reports… and I can’t and/or won’t take their biased slant with a grain of salt!
Besides, Lowell, the major dip wad is running this country (into the ground). I am grateful George W. Bush is President… perhaps envious as at least you folks have a leader.
Cheers!

[Lowell]

Originally posted by SteveMetch
I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.

That's a start. Then I suppose we re-build the whole thing...?

[Lowell]

Originally posted by RichardP
That's a damn good question, Lowell. Believe it or not I've asked myself the same question. Honestly, I would probably blow it...
Not in the classical Bill Clinton sense.
I would after this period of time, ask myself about my choice of advisors. After all we are only as good as the people around us; wanting to know if we are on the same wave length with the task at hand. If not there would be some hard nosed decision making.
As regards to Israel, I believe that they are a sovereign state with the right to handle their security etc. any way they may choose. If any other state was asked to hold off after being attacked by terrorists: I am more than certain they would tell whomever that asked, to go to hell! Israel has bent over backwards to most demands from the US.
As president I would not be spouting off drivel such as ‘Islam is a peaceful religion’. Nor would I be kissing the butts of certain Islamic/Arab states. Now you know I would not be a good president.
I was never against Iraqi Freedom, but was aware the aftermath was going to be worse than the actual war. You and many others also were aware of this I am certain.
I would in all likelihood give an ultimatum to those states, not to forget the PA and their fellow reptilian terrorists… tear up the “Road Map”, place a time frame for them to decide if they were truly serious about peace. And if they didn’t comply, come down harder on them than they could ever imagine.
The power struggle between the western democracies is another issue…
Islam terrorists are going to nickel and dime us to death if this path of uncertainty continues. It is happening to the troops in Iraq, Afghanistan and needless to say, Israel.
That’s why I don’t want to be an armchair Commander-in-Chief: this doesn’t mean I can’t or won’t criticize Bush, I will! However, a dip-wad he may be at times, but as said there are bigger dip-wads who couldn’t fill his shoes if they tried. I like the man but I am concerned about some of the advisors, but I’m not privy to what is truly said. Like most I hear what the press reports… and I can’t and/or won’t take their biased slant with a grain of salt!
Besides, Lowell, the major dip wad is running this country (into the ground). I am grateful George W. Bush is President… perhaps envious as at least you folks have a leader.
Cheers!

Yes, it is easier to criticize and name call than to do the actual job. Actually, half of America doesn't think the US has a leader= the half that voted for Gore. One small correction- Israel has bent over forward, not backward, with the predictable result of getting scr3wed.

[RichardP]

Originally posted by Lowell
Yes, it is easier to criticize and name call than to do the actual job. Actually, half of America doesn't think the US has a leader= the half that voted for Gore. One small correction- Israel has bent over forward, not backward, with the predictable result of getting scr3wed.

Aye!!! We are blessed to be living in a democracy, to be allowed to complain and bitch as we do. Please don't mention Gore, out of sight out of mind! LOL!! My biggest beef is that Israel is getting screwed... whether forward or backward, they aren't enjoying it.
I think I saw mention of nuking the Arab/Islam terrorists states... I think it was you, but I am not certain. It will come to that in time unless we come down hard on the bastards now!
The media is doing its best to undermine Bush's presidency... I have a hard time with the bias of the mainstream media. It's the same up here, if you are a smidgen right of center... you are classified an idiot, warmonger etc. Hell our government is so left of center they have done everything in their power to devastate our military. If we were invaded by some other Banana Republic, guess who we'd have to call? The big, mean USA...
If Castro ran for Prime Minister, he'd likely win by a landslide. It's countries like this one that need to be hit (sadly) then they'd have to remove their pink-tinted glasses and see the world as it really is.

[Lowell]

Nice round number, 200, so I thought I'd celebrate.

Q: What do you get when you offer a Liberal a penny for his thoughts?
A: Change.

Q: How do you confuse a Liberal?
A: You don't. They're born that way.

Q: Why is it good to have a Democrat passenger?
A: You can park in the handicap zone.

Q: What's the difference between Elvis and a smart Liberal?
A: Elvis has been sighted.

A Democrat died and a friend went around collecting for a fund for his funeral. A woman was asked to donate ten dollars.
"Ten dollars?" she said. "It only takes ten dollars to bury a Democrat? Here's a hundred - go bury 10 of them!"

Q: How do you keep a Democrat busy?
A: Write 'Please turn over' on both sides of a piece of paper.

Q: How do you keep a Liberal busy all day?
A: Put him in a round room and tell him to wait in the corner.

Q: What do you call a Democrat with an IQ of 130?
A: A foursome

Q: How do you get a one-armed Liberal out of a tree?
A: Wave to him.

Q: What do you call a basement full of Liberals?
A: A whine cellar.

Q: What is the definition of gross ignorance?
A: 144 Democrats.

Q: What is foreplay for a Democrat?
A: Thirty minutes of begging.

Q: What is the Democrat doing when he holds his hands tightly over his ears?
A: Trying to hold on to a thought.

Q: Why did the Liberal have blisters on his lips?
A: From trying to blow out lightbulbs.

Q: Why do Liberals work seven days a week?
A: So you don't have to retrain them on Monday.

A Democrat found a magic genie's lamp and rubbed it. The genie said, "I will grant you one wish." He said, "I wish I were smarter". So the genie made him a Republican.

Q: What the difference between a Democrat and the rear end of a horse?
A: I don't know either.

Q: How is a Liberal different from a sewer rat?
A: Some people actually like sewer rats.

Q: How many Democrats does it take to change a light bulb?
A: None. They prefer to walk in the dark.

Q: Why do so many Liberals live in L.A.?
A: It’s the only city that is easy enough for them to spell.

Q: What's five miles long and has an IQ of forty?
A: A Democrat parade.

Q: What is it called when a Liberal blows in another Liberal’s ear?
A: Data transfer.

Q: Why don't they let Liberals swim in the ocean?
A: Because they can't get the smell out of the tuna.

Q: How do you plant dope?
A: Bury a Democrat.

Q: What's the difference between a Liberal and a sack of manure?
A: The sack.

Q: What's the definition of a Democrat running for Congress for the first time?
A: A mouse trying to become a rat.

Q: What's the difference between God and a Democrat?
A: God knows He's not a Democrat.

[RichardP]

Originally posted by Lowell
Nice round number, 200, so I thought I'd celebrate.

Q: What do you get when you offer a Liberal a penny for his thoughts?
A: Change.

Q: How do you confuse a Liberal?
A: You don't. They're born that way.

Q: Why is it good to have a Democrat passenger?
A: You can park in the handicap zone.

Q: What's the difference between Elvis and a smart Liberal?
A: Elvis has been sighted.

A Democrat died and a friend went around collecting for a fund for his funeral. A woman was asked to donate ten dollars.
"Ten dollars?" she said. "It only takes ten dollars to bury a Democrat? Here's a hundred - go bury 10 of them!"

Q: How do you keep a Democrat busy?
A: Write 'Please turn over' on both sides of a piece of paper.

Q: How do you keep a Liberal busy all day?
A: Put him in a round room and tell him to wait in the corner.

Q: What do you call a Democrat with an IQ of 130?
A: A foursome

Q: How do you get a one-armed Liberal out of a tree?
A: Wave to him.

Q: What do you call a basement full of Liberals?
A: A whine cellar.

Q: What is the definition of gross ignorance?
A: 144 Democrats.

Q: What is foreplay for a Democrat?
A: Thirty minutes of begging.

Q: What is the Democrat doing when he holds his hands tightly over his ears?
A: Trying to hold on to a thought.

Q: Why did the Liberal have blisters on his lips?
A: From trying to blow out lightbulbs.

Q: Why do Liberals work seven days a week?
A: So you don't have to retrain them on Monday.

A Democrat found a magic genie's lamp and rubbed it. The genie said, "I will grant you one wish." He said, "I wish I were smarter". So the genie made him a Republican.

Q: What the difference between a Democrat and the rear end of a horse?
A: I don't know either.

Q: How is a Liberal different from a sewer rat?
A: Some people actually like sewer rats.

Q: How many Democrats does it take to change a light bulb?
A: None. They prefer to walk in the dark.

Q: Why do so many Liberals live in L.A.?
A: It’s the only city that is easy enough for them to spell.

Q: What's five miles long and has an IQ of forty?
A: A Democrat parade.

Q: What is it called when a Liberal blows in another Liberal’s ear?
A: Data transfer.

Q: Why don't they let Liberals swim in the ocean?
A: Because they can't get the smell out of the tuna.

Q: How do you plant dope?
A: Bury a Democrat.

Q: What's the difference between a Liberal and a sack of manure?
A: The sack.

Q: What's the definition of a Democrat running for Congress for the first time?
A: A mouse trying to become a rat.

Q: What's the difference between God and a Democrat?
A: God knows He's not a Democrat.

Many thanks, Lowell... it was therapeutic to have a good laugh!

[Lowell]

Originally posted by RichardP
Many thanks, Lowell... it was therapeutic to have a good laugh!

I'd like a good laugh, too. Those Q & As depressed me but totally dude. I shoulda, like, put up some blonde jokes.

[danholo]

Same thing could be said of Republicans. Isn't Bush's IQ much lower then the previous president's? It is! Yet Republican's have balls to call democrats idiots while our president, a Republican, almost is one.

But enough of that. I think this thread should stay on topic.