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  1. #16
    Communication
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    Sorry, mr sherwin, gotta run....my father is here.


    Originally posted by Gilgamesh
    Sorry, I don't believe you. I can read between the lines, you don't have the feel of a Jewish brotheren in you. Not even close.

    round the mill Chatolic pope whorshiper European... We had worse here... (we used to have a pictures licking russian orthodox... whould you imagion...).

  2. #17
    LoveIsrael23
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    Originally posted by Communication
    Welcome. Sorry to answer a question with a question but someone mentioned that there are Jews still living in Ireland. Know any? You see, I kind of have a thing for Irish guys.

    do u know in ireland some pubs had signs that said no dogs or jews.

  3. #18
    Mycroft
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    Originally posted by LoveIsrael23
    do u know in ireland some pubs had signs that said no dogs or jews.
    You seem to have a lot of these anecdotes.

  4. #19
    mrsherwin
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    Originally posted by LoveIsrael23
    do u know in ireland some pubs had signs that said no dogs or jews.
    where , did u see that , i would be very surprised , was that recently i would love to know where u heard that from . Jews in ireland aren,t plentiful however some have held very prominent positions and the irish nation has great links with jewish groupsApart from some efforts to convert the Jews to Christianity, their small community was left in peace. Daniel O'Connell, the great Irish political leader of the first half of the nineteenth century, was able to say of the Jews: 'Ireland has claims on your ancient race, it is the only country that I know of unsullied by any one act of persecution of the Jews'. He supported with enthusiasm the efforts of the Jews to attain full civil rights within the United Kingdom. In 1846 an obsolete statute which prescribed a special dress for Jews was formally repealed by the British Parliament on the insistence of O'Connell.

    For their part, the Jews in Ireland and internationally played a part out of proportion to their numbers in helping to relieve the general distress during the Great Famine. In the original subscription list of the British Association for the Relief of Famine, preserved in the National Library in Dublin, Queen Victoria heads the list with a gift of £2,000 followed by the Jewish financier Baron Lionel de Rothschild's £1,000. A Dublin newspaper, commenting in 1850 on the Baron's generosity, made the point that he and his family had contributed during the Irish famine of 1847 ... a sum far beyond the joint contributions of the Devonshires, and Herefords, Lansdownes, Fitzwilliams and Herberts, who annually drew so many times that amount from their Irish estates.' In 1880 when a new appeal for help for Ireland was directed at America, the Irish Relief Fund and the Irish Famine Fund was liberally supported by American Jews.

    please tell me where you heard that because it was often irish people that were labeled in with the dogs

  5. #20
    Mycroft
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    Originally posted by mrsherwin
    where , did u see that , i would be very surprised , was that recently i would love to know where u heard that from . Jews in ireland aren,t plentiful however some have held very prominent positions and the irish nation has great links with jewish groupsApart from some efforts to convert the Jews to Christianity, their small community was left in peace. Daniel O'Connell, the great Irish political leader of the first half of the nineteenth century, was able to say of the Jews: 'Ireland has claims on your ancient race, it is the only country that I know of unsullied by any one act of persecution of the Jews'. He supported with enthusiasm the efforts of the Jews to attain full civil rights within the United Kingdom. In 1846 an obsolete statute which prescribed a special dress for Jews was formally repealed by the British Parliament on the insistence of O'Connell.

    For their part, the Jews in Ireland and internationally played a part out of proportion to their numbers in helping to relieve the general distress during the Great Famine. In the original subscription list of the British Association for the Relief of Famine, preserved in the National Library in Dublin, Queen Victoria heads the list with a gift of £2,000 followed by the Jewish financier Baron Lionel de Rothschild's £1,000. A Dublin newspaper, commenting in 1850 on the Baron's generosity, made the point that he and his family had contributed during the Irish famine of 1847 ... a sum far beyond the joint contributions of the Devonshires, and Herefords, Lansdownes, Fitzwilliams and Herberts, who annually drew so many times that amount from their Irish estates.' In 1880 when a new appeal for help for Ireland was directed at America, the Irish Relief Fund and the Irish Famine Fund was liberally supported by American Jews.

    please tell me where you heard that because it was often irish people that were labeled in with the dogs
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    Apart from some efforts to convert the Jews to Christianity, their small community was left in peace. Daniel O'Connell, the great Irish political leader of the first half of the nineteenth century, was able to say of the Jews: 'Ireland has claims on your ancient race, it is the only country that I know of unsullied by any one act of persecution of the Jews'. He supported with enthusiasm the efforts of the Jews to attain full civil rights within the United Kingdom. In 1846 an obsolete statute which prescribed a special dress for Jews was formally repealed by the British Parliament on the insistence of O'Connell.

    For their part, the Jews in Ireland and internationally played a part out of proportion to their numbers in helping to relieve the general distress during the Great Famine. In the original subscription list of the British Association for the Relief of Famine, preserved in the National Library in Dublin, Queen Victoria heads the list with a gift of £2,000 followed by the Jewish financier Baron Lionel de Rothschild's £1,000. A Dublin newspaper, commenting in 1850 on the Baron's generosity, made the point that he and his family had contributed during the Irish famine of 1847 ... a sum far beyond the joint contributions of the Devonshires, and Herefords, Lansdownes, Fitzwilliams and Herberts, who annually drew so many times that amount from their Irish estates.' In 1880 when a new appeal for help for Ireland was directed at America, the Irish Relief Fund and the Irish Famine Fund was liberally supported by American Jews.
    http://www.kosherdelight.com/Irish.htm

  6. #21
    Communication
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    Come to think of it, I remember being told when I was much younger about a man who led the Jews out of Ireland with a bag pipe. They somehow fell into a trance from the music and followed him out of the cities, thereby saving the country from a terrible "plague."

  7. #22
    mrsherwin
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    Originally posted by Mycroft
    http://www.kosherdelight.com/Irish.htm


    Exactly ,so thats why i find it hard to beliecve asign saying nojews no do in Ireland. the irish jewish rekationship has always been good with the exception of an incident of anti semitism in Limerick in the 1930 s instigated by a local mob of ill breds , there was Mayor Gerald Goldberg of the city of Cork , and many others it is unfortunate when people smear anyone with untrue rubbish

  8. #23
    mrsherwin
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    Originally posted by Communication
    Come to think of it, I remember being told when I was much younger about a man who led the Jews out of Ireland with a bag pipe. They somehow fell into a trance from the music and followed him out of the cities, thereby saving the country from a terrible "plague."
    Miss communication , a tad mor appropriate ,

  9. #24
    Mycroft
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    Originally posted by mrsherwin
    Exactly ,so thats why i find it hard to beliecve asign saying nojews no do in Ireland. the irish jewish rekationship has always been good with the exception of an incident of anti semitism in Limerick in the 1930 s instigated by a local mob of ill breds , there was Mayor Gerald Goldberg of the city of Cork , and many others it is unfortunate when people smear anyone with untrue rubbish
    I don't know anything about Jews in Ireland, I've never been there. I was just pointing out that you lifted your post almost directly from that web site. Why would you do that?

  10. #25
    mrsherwin
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    Originally posted by Mycroft
    I don't know anything about Jews in Ireland, I've never been there. I was just pointing out that you lifted your post almost directly from that web site. Why would you do that?

    to highlight the point i was trying to make , that ireland and judaism have always enjoyed a positive relationship . with some minor exceptions . anyway as you have stated it is of little interest to you , what does it matter if i paste off another website its done rather frequently on theese boards , you seem to have a problem with me ,have you not got a more constructive outlet for your opinion , ur obviously a knob

  11. #26
    LoveIsrael23
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    Originally posted by mrsherwin

    please tell me where you heard that because it was often irish people that were labeled in with the dogs

    I have been reading this forum for a few mths before registering and i remember someone here saying so.
    I dont think they provided a link.

  12. #27
    LoveIsrael23
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    Originally posted by Mediocrates
    The short answer is no - They possibly have IRBMs as well as SLCMs and an aircraft lauched capability. While 'Shavit' has a LEO (Low Earth Orbit) capability intercontinental suborbital ballistic capability does not exist.

    hi, whats a IRBM and what a SLCM, please post a link to what these are.

    What yield warhead could the SHAVIT LEO carry to europe?



    to GILGAMESh, who say a jet could be used as an ICBM, but a jet dosent have MIRV's (multiple independently targetable re-entry vehicles.

  13. #28
    LoveIsrael23
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    israel also has SLMB's right
    submarine launched ballsitic missiles?


    arnt they the same as the seach launched ballistic missiles?

  14. #29
    frizzer1
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    Originally posted by LoveIsrael23
    do u know in ireland some pubs had signs that said no dogs or jews.
    They used to have those signs in Toronto, too.I think it was in the 30's or early 40's.
    There were race riots in those days,the most famous being at Christie Pits.Gangs of jews & italians took on the local brownshirts in brawls resembling those seen in Gangs of new York.

  15. #30
    Gilgamesh
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    Originally posted by LoveIsrael23
    hi, whats a IRBM and what a SLCM, please post a link to what these are.
    IRBM are Intermediate Range Balistic missile. SLCM is Submarin Launched Cruise Missile.
    Israel does not have SLBM, only SLCM. Yet, such missiles can be installed.

    What yield warhead could the SHAVIT LEO carry to europe?
    About 1000kq war head. some say, even more... multiple warheads. Israel may have the H-Bomb so we are talking about quite a big bang. It is believe though, most Israeli atomic devices are small yield, several kiloton each.

    Check out these sites: www.israeli-weapons.com and www.fas.org

    to GILGAMESh, who say a jet could be used as an ICBM, but a jet dosent have MIRV's (multiple independently targetable re-entry vehicles.
    It can sure be installed. Autopilots can do the job as good, and there is ofcourse, remote flight control... If we are talking Arabs, then suicide pilots is the BEST choise.

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