Home | In the following listing of events for 2003, I counted 5 suicide bombings this year, plus the most recent one which was not on this list. Does anyone know the official count for 2003?
If my estimation is correct, Israel is down to 6, from an average of 50+ per year. That's very encouraging!
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satelli...=1072325997087
You can add the bombing that took place last week, the attack that took place in a home (during the oh so peaceful hudna), Tzifrin, Hillel Cafe, Mike's Place, on august 12th there were 2 bombings, on june 19 there was a bombing in a 'makolet', an attack in Afula, may 18 another attack on a Jerusalem bus, on 30 march an attack in Netanya.
It could be that I haven't listed all of them...
So I'm afraid that's not just 5-6
True. But I think I included the Cafe Hillel attack, and the Jerusalem bus bobming. Check the link.Originally posted by Barak
You can add the bombing that took place last week, the attack that took place in a home (during the oh so peaceful hudna), Tzifrin, Hillel Cafe, Mike's Place, on august 12th there were 2 bombings, on june 19 there was a bombing in a 'makolet', an attack in Afula, may 18 another attack on a Jerusalem bus, on 30 march an attack in Netanya.
It could be that I haven't listed all of them...
So I'm afraid that's not just 5-6
But even if I missed a few or even several attacks let's say there were 12 in total. I don't think I could be that far off. 12 is still much better than 50. And keep in mind that the fence is still in progress, and that even half-finished it has been said to have already saved many lives. On top of that, Hamas & co. have lost so many personell in targeted attacks, that the terror wave is unlikely to return to the 50+ per year. So I will be cautiously optomistic.
I wish I could be that optimistic. I'm afraid we have a rough year ahead, but I also guess this will be the last year of the terror attacks on such a regular basis.
But for once in my life I hope I'm wrong, at least for my prognesses of this year
Well, I'll tell you what. Those 10 Army dissenters who would not serve in the territories.... I'll volunteer myself, and bring 9 other cowboys with me from the USA, and we will guard the fence (and do whatever has to be done) in thier place. And Kofi Annan, Hannan Ashrawi, Jacques Chirac, and the entire EU parliament, can take it right up the a** where the sun never shines.Originally posted by Barak
I wish I could be that optimistic. I'm afraid we have a rough year ahead, but I also guess this will be the last year of the terror attacks on such a regular basis.
But for once in my life I hope I'm wrong, at least for my prognesses of this year
I know exactly how you feel. I'm really not concerned that there will be a serious problem with manpower, but more of the political consequences those acts will have.Originally posted by IsraelAdvocate
Well, I'll tell you what. Those 10 Army dissenters who would not serve in the territories.... I'll volunteer myself, and bring 9 other cowboys with me from the USA, and we will guard the fence (and do whatever has to be done) in thier place. And Kofi Annan, Hannan Ashrawi, Jacques Chirac, and the entire EU parliament, can take it right up the a** where the sun never shines.
btw an Swedish mp was arrested today
I'm no cowboy, but you can count me in. But i do subscribe to the cowboy rule of shooting first and asking questions later, and nothing would give me more pleasure than eliminating some arab muslim terrorist filth.Originally posted by IsraelAdvocate
Well, I'll tell you what. Those 10 Army dissenters who would not serve in the territories.... I'll volunteer myself, and bring 9 other cowboys with me from the USA, and we will guard the fence (and do whatever has to be done) in thier place. And Kofi Annan, Hannan Ashrawi, Jacques Chirac, and the entire EU parliament, can take it right up the a** where the sun never shines.
Alright then Barak and Rhodescholar. Saddle on up, and let's get us a terrorist! What we need is John ing Wayne and a few good men. Well, let's see. There's me, Barak, and Rhodescholar.Originally posted by rhodescholar
I'm no cowboy, but you can count me in. But i do subscribe to the cowboy rule of shooting first and asking questions later, and nothing would give me more pleasure than eliminating some arab muslim terrorist filth.
Ok, that's 3 guys. What do you say, anyone else?
Takeo is disqualified, because first, he's a French Bastard, and we don't need anyone deserting us in the middle of the war. Second, being French, he'd surrender before the fight even starts, so he's out. I don't want Frenchies on my team. I want some Cowboys. MinustheJihad? Lamplighter? Let's us go and gaurd the fence. Besides, we can have a Bar-B-Q in the mean-time.
I'm in!! I also have a couple of friends that wanna join. So we could have a company up and running in no time. Just getting to know each other and training. I just don't want to have guarding duties all the time. We have to take action also
How about counting all the foiled attacks, if the attacks are indeed down it may be due to the vigilance of the IDF and police.Originally posted by IsraelAdvocate
In the following listing of events for 2003, I counted 5 suicide bombings this year, plus the most recent one which was not on this list. Does anyone know the official count for 2003?
If my estimation is correct, Israel is down to 6, from an average of 50+ per year. That's very encouraging!
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satelli...=1072325997087
I don’t think it's only what is, what could have been should also be factored in.
Sure, but I nerver said the quiet was due to Hamas or Islamic Jihad suddenly developing morals. For certain, it is the IDF that is foiling many, many terrorist attempts. But with that in mind, the IDF is getting better at it's work. The slowdown of attacks, regardless of how they occured, is good news.Originally posted by L@mplighterM
How about counting all the foiled attacks, if the attacks are indeed down it may be due to the vigilance of the IDF and police.
I don’t think it's only what is, what could have been should also be factored in.
Besides, I'd actually prefer that these attacks were due to the IDF, and not due to the Palestinians. We can rely on the IDF to make the effort every time.
Now, about my Company of Cowboys, we can take turns gaurding the fence, but I insist that we bring some wives/girlfriends along for kitchen and laundry duty. They can stay at the encampment.
Hell, this could turn into a male bonding hunting trip, but for a good cause. Instead of deer or antelope, we'll hunt terrorists.Originally posted by Barak
I'm in!! I also have a couple of friends that wanna join. So we could have a company up and running in no time. Just getting to know each other and training. I just don't want to have guarding duties all the time. We have to take action also
Let's break out the beer and hot dogs!
i am convinced that there are a large number of people who have no compunction about using violence directed against arab muslims, given the immense, intolerable volume that has been unleashed by them against jews for the last 100 years. Animals like them fear a real fight, which explains to a great degree why their armies never hold up under fire.Originally posted by Barak
I'm in!! I also have a couple of friends that wanna join. So we could have a company up and running in no time. Just getting to know each other and training. I just don't want to have guarding duties all the time. We have to take action also
After events such as the maalot massacre, sbarro and dolphinarium bombings, and the bus bombing a few months ago where the bomber (a father of 2 young children himself) walked in, sat down and saw that many small children would be killed, I have lost any vision of the arab muslims as human beings. Its besides the point whether or not they ALL took part in the attack, its the fact that few if any actually are doing anything, either thru demonstrations, letter writing, strikes, etc to make their voices heard against the attacks.
Where are the Arab Peace Now activists? Where are those arabs who are willing to confront the animals? Why is there noone from the EU or anywhere else willing to put pressure on the arabs to stop the violence/terrorism? This lack of pressure from the West, esp europe, tells me of the level of pure hatred for jews, but even more hatred of arabs.
My point is that if the euros saw the arabs as humans, with intelligence and a capacity for rational thought, they would have the same expectations of the arabs' willingness to control themselves. But the euros have very low expectations of the arabs, which explains why they dont put any pressure on the arabs.
As for forming a paramilitary group that advocates - and implements - force against arab muslims worldwide is something i totally support. As i said above, given the volume of terrorism and violence endured by not just jews and others over the years, its time that the arab muslims learned that their hatred, violence and intolerance will be stopped - either on their own, or by force, with the end result being the end of islam as a practiced religion on this planet.
If I had it my way it would be mandatory for Jews to carry arms at all times. As I understand it only the cops, IDF and terrorists are armed in Israel. To some extent it seems to me that successive Israeli administrations waste time kissing Arab butt, perhaps they do so in search of an elusive peace.Originally posted by IsraelAdvocate
Alright then Barak and Rhodescholar. Saddle on up, and let's get us a terrorist! What we need is John ing Wayne and a few good men. Well, let's see. There's me, Barak, and Rhodescholar.
Ok, that's 3 guys. What do you say, anyone else?
Takeo is disqualified, because first, he's a French Bastard, and we don't need anyone deserting us in the middle of the war. Second, being French, he'd surrender before the fight even starts, so he's out. I don't want Frenchies on my team. I want some Cowboys. MinustheJihad? Lamplighter? Let's us go and gaurd the fence. Besides, we can have a Bar-B-Q in the mean-time.
I just bought a couple of DVD's with John Wayne movies (from the 1930's) and he's pretty good but Bronson is better. Wayne spends too much time with hand to hand combat whereas Bronson goes right for the jugular vein.
Wow. That's very well said. I didn't even think of that, but it's true. The Europeans DO have a low expectation of Arabs, and thus, put no pressure on them. They probably just shrug thier shoulder and say (in private, of course) "Well, what do you expect. They are just primitive arabs, I don't expect any rational humanism to come from them. "Originally posted by rhodescholar
i am convinced that there are a large number of people who have no compunction about using violence directed against arab muslims, given the immense, intolerable volume that has been unleashed by them against jews for the last 100 years. Animals like them fear a real fight, which explains to a great degree why their armies never hold up under fire.
After events such as the maalot massacre, sbarro and dolphinarium bombings, and the bus bombing a few months ago where the bomber (a father of 2 young children himself) walked in, sat down and saw that many small children would be killed, I have lost any vision of the arab muslims as human beings. Its besides the point whether or not they ALL took part in the attack, its the fact that few if any actually are doing anything, either thru demonstrations, letter writing, strikes, etc to make their voices heard against the attacks.
Where are the Arab Peace Now activists? Where are those arabs who are willing to confront the animals? Why is there noone from the EU or anywhere else willing to put pressure on the arabs to stop the violence/terrorism? This lack of pressure from the West, esp europe, tells me of the level of pure hatred for jews, but even more hatred of arabs.
My point is that if the euros saw the arabs as humans, with intelligence and a capacity for rational thought, they would have the same expectations of the arabs' willingness to control themselves. But the euros have very low expectations of the arabs, which explains why they dont put any pressure on the arabs.
As for forming a paramilitary group that advocates - and implements - force against arab muslims worldwide is something i totally support. As i said above, given the volume of terrorism and violence endured by not just jews and others over the years, its time that the arab muslims learned that their hatred, violence and intolerance will be stopped - either on their own, or by force, with the end result being the end of islam as a practiced religion on this planet.
After all, who are the examples of Arab governments (all 22 of them!) We have Saddam Hussein, Bashar Assad, Mumar El- Qadaffi, King Fahad, and (a more civilized, but still authoritarian) Hosni Mubarak, and King Abdullah. Not to even mention Yasser Arafat and Sheikh Yassin. No wonder the Europeans don't expect much from Arabs. We sure don't, so why would we expect them to.
You know what? I think you are better qualified to carry the name "IsraelAdvocate" than myself. I offer it to you, if you want it.
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