The Definition Of Terrorism

Soul · 04-11-2002, 03:32 AM

http://members.lycos.co.uk/oranos99/terror.jpg

It's obvious who's the terrorist.

Oh Jerusalem · 04-11-2002, 03:55 AM

Originally posted by Soul
It's obvious who's the terrorist.

It's more obvious that the soldier is motioning to drop the bags, most probably to be checked. How unexciting.

Can't you find anything juicier, like this:

Oh Jerusalem · 04-11-2002, 04:25 AM

Waiting for moderator's approval of pic. Warning: graphic image.

victot · 04-11-2002, 04:31 AM

soul:

are you jewish? have you ever been to israel? how many idf soldiers do you know?

please, im interested to know this about you.

Oh Jerusalem · 04-11-2002, 04:36 AM

Originally posted by Oh Jerusalem

It's more obvious that the soldier is motioning to drop the bags, most probably to be checked. How unexciting.

Can't you find anything juicier, like this:

WARNING: Graphic contents:

http://www.bangedup.com/archives/linch1sdrt.jpg
http://www.bangedup.com/archives/linch2sdrt.jpg
http://www.bangedup.com/archives/linch3sdrt.jpg
http://www.bangedup.com/archives/linch5sdrt.jpg

Children's education in the PA:

http://www.bangedup.com/archives/linch6sdrt.jpg

BTW, I would never have bothered letting anyone know about these pics, as I don't really find much relevance in them for a debate.

But since Soul wants to show and tell, I thought I would, too!

Soul · 04-11-2002, 05:53 AM

I couldn't open the links , i opened bangedup.com , which is a porno site !

Anyway this is my mail , send me the pix plz,
oranos99@yahoo.co.uk

If they contain porno , don't bother to send anything dude.

That's all for now (I'll be back in june,have projects these days, Enjoy your time all)

Oh Jerusalem · 04-11-2002, 06:35 AM

Originally posted by Soul
I couldn't open the links , i opened bangedup.com , which is a porno site !

Anyway this is my mail , send me the pix plz,
oranos99@yahoo.co.uk

If they contain porno , don't bother to send anything dude.

That's all for now (I'll be back in june,have projects these days, Enjoy your time all)

Not pornographic. Violent. Pretty vile site. Hopefully the moderator will allow the example I submitted.

I'll see if I can email them to you.

Soul · 04-16-2002, 04:59 PM

http://members.lycos.co.uk/oranos99/Israelis.gif

This is sick and insane.Three Israeli soldiers have killed a Palestinian "human being" and taking a picture with him dead in front.

This should be in a new THREAD, but As i am not allowed to open new threads, I thought to post it here.

For the mean time,Newsguy , i couldn't attach the pic to be shown in full here , can you do that for me.

I think i should be allowed to open new threads !

Oh Jerusalem · 04-16-2002, 11:22 PM

Now you're talking.

All soldiers involved in that pic were disciplined. Sorry, I do not remember the details of their demotions/punishments/jail term but it made all the papers here, too.

BTW, any decent amateur photographer will tell you that, unless the camera has an extreme wide-angle setting, the photo being taken by the soldier will NOT include the dead terrorist even when the camera is in portrait and not landcape position.

You were correct about putting the words "human being" in quotes. Would you like to tell the world why this terrorist was shot and killed?

BTW, you've failed so far to comment on the pictures I posted above and emailed to you. Your silence says more than words.

Keep trying. This was your best effort so far.

Soul · 04-17-2002, 03:38 AM

Originally posted by Oh Jerusalem
Now you're talking.

All soldiers involved in that pic were disciplined. Sorry, I do not remember the details of their demotions/punishments/jail term but it made all the papers here, too.

Maybe,what was the punishment ?YOu must be a coward not to say it, I'm sure it was a very funny thing.

Originally posted by Oh Jerusalem
[B]BTW, any decent amateur photographer will tell you that, unless the camera has an extreme wide-angle setting, the photo being taken by the soldier will NOT include the dead terrorist even when the camera is in portrait and not landcape position.B]

ehh, then why were they disciplined? contradicting yourself,and making silly jokes here.It's obvious that the camera is inclined ,between portrait and landscape,try to fool someone else mr joker.

Terrorist? were you there to know what did he do to be killed? If these terrorist soldiers have no humanity to take a picture with a dead in front of them to be proud of, then don't doubt that they had no humanity when they killed him.

Originally posted by Oh Jerusalem
[B]BTW, you've failed so far to comment on the pictures I posted above and emailed to you. Your silence says more than words.
B]

That guy deserved execution , he was an arab and yet a SPY for Israel.NewSGUY was being childish to say he had different political views.I notice you play symantec and LIE ALOT.

NewsGUy failed to be nuteral as a moderator, he is very biased to Zionists side, earlier on , he saw the pic i provided , and your's , he helped you out to ATTACH the pic, but didn't help me.Now when i asked him for this pic, he didn't bother to do it.This forum is full of biased zionists.

Oh Jerusalem · 04-17-2002, 07:09 AM

Originally posted by Soul
Maybe,what was the punishment ?YOu must be a coward not to say it, I'm sure it was a very funny thing.

I'm sorry I'm not a walking database of every event, detail and photo of everything that goes on around here. I do recall this specific photo from about a month or so ago and the Israel TV reports (that's right - including the government's IBA channel). I also don't recall the names of the soldiers or of the dead terrorist.

I would be more than happy to tell you if I remembered, whether they got slapped on the wrists or got 30 days in the slammer. Why don't you do a little hard work yourself and find it. I (unlike you) have nothing to hide.

ehh, then why were they disciplined? contradicting yourself,and making silly jokes here.It's obvious that the camera is inclined ,between portrait and landscape,try to fool someone else mr joker.

Not quite,bozo. The photograph of them definitely shows conduct unbecoming of an IDF soldier and does indeed appear to be disgraceful, whether the photo they took included the body or not.

Yes, now I see the cameras incline and I retract my previous assumption, to your satisfaction.

Terrorist? were you there to know what did he do to be killed?

Once again, I remember that he was killed in a terrorist incident. As I said above, I can't remember every single event of every single terrorist event, as we have hundreds of them all the time.

But this one I especially recall because of the soldiers unbecoming behavior.

If these terrorist soldiers have no humanity to take a picture with a dead in front of them to be proud of,

Behaving like a jerk after killing a terrorist does not make the soldiers terrorists. It makes them jerks.

then don't doubt that they had no humanity when they killed him.

I don't. These soldiers either saved their own lives or those of others, whether citizens or soldiers. And that is the humane thing to do when terrorists attempt to kill you.

Oh Jerusalem · 04-17-2002, 08:52 AM

From what I'm gathering from Palestinian sites, the dead terrorist is Abdel Rahman Hamad, who was killed by an IDF sniper last October 14th or 15th at his home in Kalkilya.

Abdel Rahman Hamad was a wanted Hamas fugitive involved in the planning of the suicide bomb attack at a Tel Aviv disco in June 2001 in which 23 Israelis were killed and scores wounded. There's your "human being" for you.

Still trying to get the details on what happened with the soldiers involved in the pic.

Soul, we're all still waiting for your comments on the cute PA lynch pictures, posted earlier on this thread.

Oh Jerusalem · 04-17-2002, 11:08 AM

I just woke up to Soul's point in that picture. There supposedly are 3 bad apples in the Israeli army and maybe they're only half rotten.

How many times have the masses of Palestinians gone out and danced in the streets after terrorist attacks?

How many times have Palestininas burned effigies of busses, soldiers, settlements in a state of frenzied ecstacy?

How about the vile mob lynchings and disembowlments the Palestinian crowds have done, not just to 2 of Israel's soldiers but to their own people as well?

Who was it but the Palestinians who danced with joy when scuds fell on Israel in 1991 and when the WTC was destroyed on September 11, 2001?

Yes, "sick and insane", member Soul's own words, are an understatement for such a people!

**NewsGuy** · 04-17-2002, 03:01 PM

Originally posted by Soul
NewsGUy failed to be nuteral as a moderator, he is very biased to Zionists side, earlier on , he saw the pic i provided , and your's , he helped you out to ATTACH the pic, but didn't help me.Now when i asked him for this pic, he didn't bother to do it.This forum is full of biased zionists.

I'm not supposed to be neutral -- That's not my role. A moderator's job is to moderate discussions, not to have no opinions. In fact, I have definite opinions and I express them publicly.

On the other hand, I encourage ALL opinions to be discussed, regardless of whether I agree or disagree with them, and I help keep the discussions flowing in a high-quality way. That's what moderators do.

If you don't like having discussions with "Zionists" who are biased in favor of Israel, then I'm not sure what attracts you to a forum called the "Israel Forum." You seem to be baffled that some people here actually support Israel. And actually, one does not need to be "biased" at all to support Israel, but that's another story altogether.

I'm not going to criticise you personally, but I will say that what you express in many of your posts is not only biased, but misleading and hypocritical. In a nutshell, I have observed that you are outraged by the damage caused to the Palestinians as a result of their own terrorism and you love to post message after message about that, but I seldom find any mention of the Israeli victims of Palestinian terrorism.

Nor do I find anywhere in your messages a mention that hundreds of Israeli civilians have been massacred EVERY DAY for 18 months now, even after Arafat has been offered a second Palestinian state with its capital in Jerusalem.

It is very strage for someone like yourself who claims to be concerned with human rights, not to be concerned at all with the human rights of the Israeli murder victims. Because to you, apparently, if the victims are Jewish, they just don't count. The only thing that matters to you is to reward Palestinian terrorism.

So, please don't complain to me about being biased, Mr. "Soul."

As for your pic that you supposedly uploaded, I haven't seen any that I recall in the "waiting for approval" area. Just by posting a link to another site won't make it appear. Instead, take the time to read about how to upload a pic properly.

And if I see that you are using this forum as a platform for anti-Semitic material, or photos that might be misleading in some way, I will not approve it for public display.

Instead, I suggest that you concentrate on having a quality discussion with people here supported by facts, instead of whining about others being biased, just because they don't happen to agree with you.

A Boy · 06-30-2002, 05:13 AM

Originally posted by Soul
http://members.lycos.co.uk/oranos99/Israelis.gif

This is sick and insane.Three Israeli soldiers have killed a Palestinian "human being" and taking a picture with him dead in front.

This should be in a new THREAD, but As i am not allowed to open new threads, I thought to post it here.

For the mean time,Newsguy , i couldn't attach the pic to be shown in full here , can you do that for me.

I think i should be allowed to open new threads !