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    Economic development: Flowers beat missiles

    Flowers beat missiles

    For profits that is. Why Israel’s military situation hobbles her most
    worthwhile industries.

    Joseph Morgenstern__ 27 Jan 04___15:30


    The export sales price for one flower stem grown in Israel's Negev
    wilderness is five times the cost of growing it. Leora, a young flower
    farmer assisted by only by a few laborers, produces no fewer than
    3,000,000 flowers a year. These include new species of flowers and flower
    bulbs grown with fresh, brackish, and hot water, all under plastic cover.
    Israel has attracted attention as the world's leader in flower exports to
    Europe, according to statistics provided by the Flowers Growers
    Association. Flower exports gross about $1.5 billion, which is about 30%
    of all flowers imported by Europe. Leora has been selling flowers to
    Europe for many years, and though located very far from her markets, she
    also ships flowers to Boston florists on three-day notice.

    Israel's rapidly expanding pharmaceutical industry produces drugs at a 40%
    or greater profit margin. The country has a proven capacity for producing
    goods that find overseas markets. Were it left to its own devices, its per
    capita GDP would be $32,000, and not $16,000, as at present.

    Israel, unfortunately, is being pushed continuously to accelerate the
    development and production of defense weaponry. Since its inception in
    1948, Israel has endured a state of war, and its economy has been on a war
    footing. Being always under the threat of military or terror attack,
    Israel constantly falls short of reaching its true economic potential.

    The need for defense weaponry has always existed. Early in its existence
    Israel was dependent for weapons on the USA, France, and Britain. Until
    1967, France almost exclusively, supplied airplanes. Dependence on foreign
    suppliers left Israel in dire straits when France refused to supply arms
    to Israel as "punishment" for its victory against the seven aggressor Arab
    nations, in the Six Day War in 1967.

    In the 20 years after that war, Israel continued on a course of building
    its domestic arms industries. A few years later, it proved its abilities
    when it produced a fighter jet, though its production was discouraged by
    the US. Rafael, the Arms Development Research Authority, began to develop
    missiles that were intended to protect Israel, but subsequently found
    eager takers overseas.

    In 2004, and most likely in the years that follow, Israel will become a
    major defense supplier. Its Phalcon Early Warning platform, the Arrow
    Anti-Ballistic Missile System, its smart missiles and electronics, along
    with other military systems, should reach a $5 billion annual sales level.

    The Home Front Security requirements in the United States, have given
    birth to a rapidly upward moving industry in this country. Many countries
    are envious, as Israel continues to receive military orders from Turkey,
    India and China, all of which consider Israel as a trusted, quality
    supplier.

    However, the margins in defense sales are small. Offsetting transactions
    are often demanded. Israel's water supply has improved over the past two
    years, but the Government has explained that its purchase of massive
    amounts of drinking water from Turkey was connected to defense sales.

    Kenneth Galbraith and other economists have pointed out that war economies
    are counter productive, because they divert resources from those sectors
    of the economy that need the greatest support.

    Defense manufacture denies the people of this country the fruits of
    productive labor, because it is not the market but defense considerations
    that dictate what will be produced. There is no weapons system that can
    generate the profit margin of the Negev flower, or smell as sweet.

    Until peace comes to this region, we will write more and more about the
    sophistication of the weapons industry, though we would prefer reporting
    about flowers, and about robots that can automatically pick water melons.

    Published by Globes [online] - www.globes.co.il - on January 27, 2004

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    Mira~
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    Re: Economic development: Flowers beat missiles

    Just a thought....the margins in the agricultural sector might increase if Israel made all payments of economic support contingent upon doing work in that industry for all able bodied people. Alternatively, I would propose a parallel army work program for the ultra-orthodox, Israeli Arabs, and anyone else who is otherwise exempt from military service. Torah study without work is worthless. A program that allows the orthodox to study torah and then work the soil would be beneficial for everyone and you wouldn't need to rely so heavily on foreign workers. Just as people in the miltary receive special training that affords them all sorts of skills, people in the program could develop skills in building construction, horticulture, and environmental sciences. Israel could one day lead the world in alternative energy and environmental conservation.

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    Oh Jerusalem
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    Re: Re: Economic development: Flowers beat missiles

    Originally posted by Mira
    Torah study without work is worthless.
    This is not true.

    The current attitude of Torah study without work is debilitating but far from worthless.

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    Mira~
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    Re: Re: Re: Economic development: Flowers beat missiles

    Originally posted by Oh Jerusalem
    This is not true.

    The current attitude of Torah study without work is debilitating but far from worthless.
    How can a caterpillar expect to become a butterfly if it refuses to leave the cocoon?

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    Oh Jerusalem
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    Re: Re: Re: Re: Economic development: Flowers beat missiles

    Originally posted by Mira
    How can a caterpillar expect to become a butterfly if it refuses to leave the cocoon?
    Thinktanks aren't only limited to Washington DC.

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    Mira~
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    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Economic development: Flowers beat missiles

    Originally posted by Oh Jerusalem
    Thinktanks aren't only limited to Washington DC.
    Nonsense! Rambam's medical work kept him busy from morning until evening. Even Rabbi Akiva sold straw!

    "Do not use them [words of Torah] as a crown by which to be glorified nor a shovel with which to dig. And so Hillel would say "one who uses the Torah as his trade shall be removed." From this we learn that any who derive benefit from the words of Torah remove their lives from the world (Avot 4:5)." Rabbi Kadok

    The Mishna states that one of the obligations of a father to his son is to teach him trade. Also, it is a kiddush Hashem when someone is involved in the professional world and lives by Torah and mitzvot.

    Rambam told his son that when you get up from a book, you should look for a way to practically fuflill what you learned. He also said:

    "Whomsoever has in his heart that he shall indulge in the study of Torah and do no work but rather be sustained from charity, defames the Lord's name, cheapens the Torah, extinguishes the light of faith, causes himself ill and removes himself from the world to come. For it is forbidden that one benefit from words of Torah in this world...

    ...all Torah that is not accompanied by work will be nullified and end in sin. Ultimately such a person will steal from others. One is at a high level if he is sustained by the efforts of his own hand, a characteristic of the pious of early generations. In this he will merit all the honor and good of this world and the world to come, as it is written, "If you eat by the work of your hands happy are you and it will go well for you" (Psalms 128:2). Happy are you in this world and it will go well for you in the world to come."

    To really understand torah, you must understand the world that it relates to. Some brilliant idiots in a Washington think tank came up with the idea of spreading democracy in the Arab world by invading Iraq.

    http://www.besr.org/library/sweat.html

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    Oh Jerusalem
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    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Economic development: Flowers beat missiles

    Originally posted by Mira
    Nonsense! Rambam's medical work kept him busy from morning until evening. Even Rabbi Akiva sold straw!
    And yet Rabbi Akiva ran a gigantic Talmudic academy with 10's of thousands of students.

    Also, not everyone is a Rambam.

    I agree wholeheartedly with what you brought down. However, my gripe is that the Torah world does not lean in that direction at all whereas it should for the most part.

    But we still need that think tank, those "sheh-toratam umanutam", whose Torah is their craftsmanship, their profession. Without that core, those that eventually lead lives of Torah Im Derech Eretz would have to struggle and stumble that much more in their quest to master this world.

    My eyes are closing on me already. A good topic but I gotta conk out.

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    Roland
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    Re: Economic development: Flowers beat missiles

    Originally posted by Mediocrates
    Flowers beat missiles
    Israel, unfortunately, is being pushed continuously to accelerate the development and production of defense weaponry.
    ...
    There is no weapons system that can generate the profit margin of the Negev flower, or smell as sweet.
    ...
    Until peace comes to this region, we will write more and more about the sophistication of the weapons industry, though we would prefer reporting about flowers, and about robots that can automatically pick water melons.
    So the defence industry needs some help? Join forces with the flower-sector! Missiles could be combined with Flowers. Export a bouquet with every shot. Could be considered showing good manners. For a small donation well-wishers could write some personal message on a little with-compliments-card. Drop the flowers with a parachute over a detonation area, improving Tv-reports investigating the strikezones in the aftermath, covering collateral damage with leaves of roses, improve the smelling, decorate funerals. Each bunch of flowers would increace the profit-margine of a missile by 200%. Same is for lage calibre shelling. Add a melon and you reduce famine as well as damages caused by a drought - just by shooting.

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    Oh Jerusalem
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    Re: Re: Economic development: Flowers beat missiles

    Originally posted by Roland
    So the defence industry needs some help? Join forces with the flower-sector! Missiles could be combined with Flowers. Export a bouquet with every shot. Could be considered showing good manners. For a small donation well-wishers could write some personal message on a little with-compliments-card. Drop the flowers with a parachute over a detonation area, improving Tv-reports investigating the strikezones in the aftermath, covering collateral damage with leaves of roses, improve the smelling, decorate funerals. Each bunch of flowers would increace the profit-margine of a missile by 200%. Same is for lage calibre shelling. Add a melon and you reduce famine as well as damages caused by a drought - just by shooting.
    Didn't we do that yesterday?

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