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    Mira~
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    Eye on the Media: Just like Stalingrad

    May. 28, 2004 11:38 | Updated May. 28, 2004 18:46
    Eye on the Media: Just like Stalingrad
    By BRET STEPHENS


    According to Sidney Blumenthal, a one-time adviser to president Bill Clinton who now writes a column for Britain's Guardian newspaper, President George W. Bush today runs "what is in effect a gulag," stretching "from prisons in Afghanistan to Iraq, from Guantanamo to secret CIA prisons around the world." Blumenthal says "there has been nothing like this system since the fall of the Soviet Union."


    In another column, Blumenthal compares the April death toll for American soldiers in Iraq to the Eastern Front in the Second World War. Bush's "splendid little war," he writes, "has entered a Stalingrad-like phase of urban siege and house-to-house combat."

    The factual bases for these claims are, first, that the US holds some 10,000 "enemy combatants" prisoner; and second, that 122 US soldiers were killed in action in April.

    As I write, I have before me a copy of "The Black Book of Communism," which relates that on "1 January 1940 some 1,670,000 prisoners were being held in the 53 groups of corrective work camps and 425 collective work colonies . In addition, the prisons held 200,000 people awaiting trial or a transfer to camp. Finally, the NKVD komandatury were in charge of approximately 1.2 million 'specially displaced people.'"

    As for Stalingrad, German deaths between January 10 and February 2, 1943, numbered 100,000, according to British historian John Keegan. And those were just the final agonizing days of a battle that had raged since the previous August.

    Blumenthal is not alone. Former vice president Al Gore this week accused Bush of creating "more anger and righteous indignation against us as Americans than any leader of our country in the 228 years of our existence as a nation." Every single column written by the New York Times's Paul Krugman is an anti-Bush screed; apparently, there isn't anything else worth writing about. A bumper sticker I saw the other day in Manhattan reads: "If you aren't outraged, you're not paying attention."

    THERE ARE two explanations for all this. One is that Bush really is as bad as Sid, Al and Paul say: the dumbest, most feckless, most fanatical, most incompetent and most calamitous president the nation has ever known. A second is that Sid, Al and Paul are insane.

    The best test of the first argument is the state of the nation Bush leads. In the first quarter of 2004, the US economy grew by an annualized 4.4%. By contrast, the 12-nation eurozone grew by 1.3% – and that's their highest growth rate in three years. In the US, unemployment hovers around 5.6%. In the eurozone, it is 8.8%. In a recent column, Krugman wrote that the US economic figures aren't quite as good as they seem. But even granting that, the Bush economy is manifestly healthy by historical and current international standards.

    There is the situation in Iraq, where the US has lost about 750 soldiers in action over the course of more than a year, as well as about 5,500 Iraqis. The fact that events have not gone well over the past two months is somehow taken as proof that they've gone disastrously. Yet in the run-up to the war, the German Foreign Ministry was issuing predictions of about two million Iraqi deaths, making the actual Iraqi death rate 3.6% of that anticipated total. As for the American rate, the US lost more than 6,000 soldiers in Vietnam in 1966, the year US troop strength there was comparable to what it is now in Iraq. That's about nine times as many fatalities as the US has so far sustained in Iraq.

    There is the charge that, under Bush, the United States has qualified for most-hated nation status. Maybe so. But it is not entirely clear why this should be so decisive in measuring the accomplishments or failures of the administration. Reagan was also unpopular internationally back in his day. Nor is Israel an especially popular country. But that's no argument for Israel to measure itself according to what Jordanians or Egyptians think of it.

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    continued

    The point here is not that Bush has a flawless or even a good record or that his critics don't have their points. The point is that, at this stage in his presidency, Bush cannot credibly be described as some kind of world-historical disaster on a par with James Buchanan and Herbert Hoover, nor can he credibly be accused of the things of which he is accused.

    This brings us to our second hypothesis, which is that his critics are insane.

    This is an easier case to make. Blumenthal, for instance, is the man who described Clinton's as the most consequential, the most inspiring and the most moral American presidency of the 20th century, only possibly excepting FDR's. Krugman spent his first couple of years as a columnist writing tirades about how the US economy was on the point of Argentina-style collapse.

    What makes these arguments insane – I use the word advisedly – isn't that they don't contain some possible germ of truth. One can argue that Clinton was a reasonably good president. And one can argue that Bush economic policy has not been a success. But you have to be insane to argue that Clinton was FDR incarnate, and you have to be insane to argue Bush has brought the US to its lowest economic point since 1932. This style of hyperbole is a symptom of madness, because it displays such palpable disconnect from observable reality.

    If you have to go looking for outrage, the outrage probably isn't there. That which is truly outrageous tends to have the quality of obviousness.

    So here is one aspect of this insanity: no sense of proportion. For Blumenthal, Fallujah isn't merely like Stalingrad. It may as well be Stalingrad, just as Guantanamo may as well be Lefertovo and Abu Ghraib may as well be Buchenwald, and Bush may as well be Hitler and Hoover combined, and Iraq may as well be Vietnam and Bill Clinton may as well be Franklin Roosevelt.

    The absence of proportion stems, in turn, from a problem of perspective. If you have no idea where you stand in relation to certain objects, then an elephant may seem as small as a fly and a fly may seem as large as an elephant. Similarly, Blumenthal can only compare the American detention infrastructure to the Gulag archipelago if he has no concept of the actual size of things. And he can have no concept of the size of things because he neither knows enough about them nor where he stands in relation to them. What is the vantage point from which Blumenthal observes the world? It is one where Fallujah is "Stalingrad-like." How does one manage to see the world this way? By standing too close to Fallujah and too far from Stalingrad. By being consumed by the present. By losing not just the sense, but the possibility, of judgment.

    CARE FOR language is more than a concern for purity. When one describes President Bush as a fascist, what words remain for real fascists? When one describes Fallujah as Stalingrad-like, how can we express, in the words that remain to the language, what Stalingrad was like? And while I'm at it, when we call Shimon Peres or Yossi Beilin or now Ariel Sharon a "traitor," how much more invisible do actual traitors become?

    George Orwell wrote that the English language "becomes ugly and inaccurate because our thoughts are foolish, but the slovenliness of our language makes it easier for us to have foolish thoughts." In taking care with language, we take care of ourselves.



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    David_in_NYC
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    Re: continued

    Originally posted by Mira

    George Orwell wrote that the English language "becomes ugly and inaccurate because our thoughts are foolish, but the slovenliness of our language makes it easier for us to have foolish thoughts." In taking care with language, we take care of ourselves.
    This is, of course, why socialists are so deliberately destructive of language. In the US, "liberal" now means "totalitarian", "equal opportunity" means "white males need not apply" and a pair of dedicated sodomites makes a "marriage". It depends on what the meaning of "is" is, as Clinton so famously said.

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    chrisjohn316
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    Stalingrad 1942

    Putingrad 2004

    Mohammedgrad - when hell freezes over

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    andak01
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    Re: Eye on the Media: Just like Stalingrad

    Originally posted by Mira
    The factual bases for these claims are, first, that the US holds some 10,000 "enemy combatants" prisoner; and second, that 122 US soldiers were killed in action in April.
    Well the only numbers released are those released BY the US and nobody is in any way equipped to second guess those figures. People held in secret would not appear in any official numbers, would they?

    One fact is undeniable. The US has one of the largest prison complexes in the free world. Last week, a report by the Justice Department says that 1 in 75 men in the US are in prison.

    http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...n_population_7

    THERE ARE two explanations for all this. One is that Bush really is as bad as Sid, Al and Paul say: the dumbest, most feckless, most fanatical, most incompetent and most calamitous president the nation has ever known. A second is that Sid, Al and Paul are insane.
    Or a third possibility is that Bush isn't the dumbest, and they are exaggerating what is a real situation for effect. That's unfortunate, because merely stating the facts would show Bush for the incompetent he is.

    There is the situation in Iraq, where the US has lost about 750 soldiers in action over the course of more than a year, as well as about 5,500 Iraqis.
    And here the author makes up a whopper himself. 5,500 violent deaths is approximately what was announced a week ago for Baghdad and three provinces SINCE the announced end of the war a year ago.

    http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...olent_deaths_8

    Indeed, there is no precise count for Iraq (news - web sites) as a whole on how many people have been killed, nor is there a breakdown of deaths caused by the different sorts of attacks. The U.S. military, the occupation authority and Iraqi government agencies say they don't have the ability to track civilian deaths.

    But the AP survey of morgues in Baghdad and the provinces of Karbala, Kirkuk and Tikrit found 5,558 violent deaths recorded from May 1, 2003, when President Bush (news - web sites) declared an end to major combat operations, to April 30. Officials at morgues for three more of Iraq's 18 provinces either didn't have numbers or declined to release them.

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    Oh Jerusalem
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    Re: Re: Eye on the Media: Just like Stalingrad

    Originally posted by andak01
    One fact is undeniable. The US has one of the largest prison complexes in the free world. Last week, a report by the Justice Department says that 1 in 75 men in the US are in prison.
    That may be a fact but how is it relevant? Or are you claiming that a large percentage of US prisoners are political?

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