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    Braxamillius
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    Why are American Jews so unreligious?

    American Jews just aren't religious. The majority of American Jews don't identify with their religion at all, being entirely secular. The result is that being a Jewish American is just like being an Italian American or an Irish American. If Jews don't identify with Judaism then they become just another minority that is going to assimilate into 'modern culture'. In fact some Orthodox Jews see this as the 'Silent Holocaust', that assimilation is drastically reducing their numbers.

    This has been a steady process ever since European Jews decided to emigrate to America in the 18th and 19th centuries. Generally speaking, most decided it was wiser to adopt American customs and try to 'fit in' rather than stand out as a visibly distinct group. They felt safer that way, it was easier and more attractive to blend in and be protected the Seperation of Church and State.

    Again, it was easier to cling to a secular American than to Judaism for many families. If an employer requested that a man work on the Sabbath, it was easier to comply than to worry about how he's going to feed his wife and 5 children. Nearly the entire continent was 'trefe land' or unkosher. So, it was easier to just eat what was abundantly available, even if it did not conform with Jewish Dietary Laws. So, one by one the Jewish customs slacked and then failed. Once you stopped keeping kosher, it was hard to justify following the rest of the customs. It was unthinkable, and even 'Un-American' for any group of immigrants to seal themselves off rather than take advantage of this new Land. This is how the faith of many Jews declined in America.

    Some have even said that the concept of American itself is not conducive to Judaism, since the Constitution was based on the Enlightenment Ideals of individuality and freedom of choice. This is like poison to the communal spirit of Judaism. In America, supposedly everyone has the freedom to pick up or drop a religion as they see fit, individuality, right? But that undermines the concept of an eternal covenant to a nation, or a people.

    Today it seems like most Jews have replaced the Torah with the U.S. Constitution, they replaced the Tanakh with the Bill of Rights.
    Instead of relying on G*d for protection they rely on the First amendment, which says they must not be treated differently because they are Jewish.

    I think this is a sad state of affairs. I know most americans would rather be inspired by the faith of the american jewish community than live in a totally bland, secular society. I wish history had turned out differently, that Jewish immigrants going into America had resisted American culture, like Belteshazzar resisted Babylonian culture, I know things would have worked out better.

    There are many books on this issue, such as

    The Vanishing American Jew

    and Jews and Judaism in America

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    Oh Jerusalem
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    We have a nagging tendency to worship false gods.

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    Re: Why are American Jews so unreligious?

    Originally posted by Braxamillius
    Today it seems like most Jews have replaced the Torah with the U.S. Constitution, they replaced the Tanakh with the Bill of Rights.
    Instead of relying on G*d for protection they rely on the First amendment, which says they must not be treated differently because they are Jewish.
    You might be interested in the following:

    James Madison, the fourth president, known as "The Father of Our Constitution" made the following statement:

    "We have staked the whole of all our political institutions upon the capacity of mankind for self-government, upon the capacity of each and all of us to govern ourselves, to control ourselves, to sustain ourselves according to the Ten Commandments of God. "

    Originally posted by Braxamillius
    I think this is a sad state of affairs. I know most americans would rather be inspired by the faith of the american jewish community than live in a totally bland, secular society. I wish history had turned out differently, that Jewish immigrants going into America had resisted American culture, like Belteshazzar resisted Babylonian culture, I know things would have worked out better.
    Point taken, but wasn't Belteshazzar the Babylonia name given to Dani'el?

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    Read also "Faith or Fear" by Eliot Abramson. Or anything by Telushkin for that matter. Read "Everyman's Talmud" by Abraham Cohen. Read "God in search of Man" by A.J. Heschel. Buy a Jewish encyclopedia - you can get a CD version for cheap.


    While we're on the subject, for a few hundred bucks any one of you could compile a serviceable home Jewish library. It's really not hard to do and I don't mean a Tanakh and some Megillot and a Sedur or two. I mean a real library with history and philosophy, books on religious ritual, lifecycle events, kosher cookbooks, art and so on.

    We have only ourselves to blame when we don't know something or when our children are ignorant.

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    Why are American Jews so unreligious? The same thing is happening as in the Christian faith. Today's people know how to search facts, there is less need to resort to beliefs.

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    Oh Jerusalem
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    Originally posted by Justcurious
    Why are American Jews so unreligious? The same thing is happening as in the Christian faith. Today's people know how to search facts, there is less need to resort to beliefs.
    So why were you born? What purpose is there for you to wake up another morning?

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    Originally posted by Oh Jerusalem
    So why were you born? What purpose is there for you to wake up another morning?
    Simple. To produce future generations. I have two kids and one grandchild.

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    Oh Jerusalem
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    Originally posted by Justcurious
    Simple. To produce future generations. I have two kids and one grandchild.
    And that's needed for ........ ?

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    Originally posted by Oh Jerusalem
    And that's needed for ........ ?
    So you can send them to buy Alcohol and Cigarettes

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    Originally posted by Justcurious
    Why are American Jews so unreligious? The same thing is happening as in the Christian faith. Today's people know how to search facts, there is less need to resort to beliefs.

    As opposed to what? The Chabad movement has made huge gains in the US. The only branch of Judaism that is really growing is Orthodox while Reform and Conservative are treading water. And this is a manifestation of the US as a whole which self categorizes itself as 84% a Christian nation. Americans are generally more religious than any other western nation.

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    Originally posted by Oh Jerusalem
    So why were you born? What purpose is there for you to wake up another morning?
    Does there have to be a purpose? When philosophizing long enough, you always reach a point where the purpose is lost. The point where there's no answer to "and then?"

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    Oh Jerusalem
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    Originally posted by Ahava
    Does there have to be a purpose?
    Have to be? No. But is there? Yes.

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    Ahava
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    Originally posted by Oh Jerusalem
    Have to be? No. But is there? Yes.
    Probably, yes.

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    Oh Jerusalem
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    Originally posted by Ahava
    Probably, yes.
    The only difference between you and me is the lingering doubt but that's really a very wide gulf.

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    Justcurious
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    Originally posted by Mediocrates
    ... Americans are generally more religious than any other western nation.
    I was amazed three decades ago when I lived in the small town of Hinsdale just west of Chicago. There were about 15 churches there and I've later learned that it was not a record.

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