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    20% Rise in Settlers violence towards Palestinians

    20% Rise in Settlers violence towards Palestinians

    Ynet - June, 9th - Since the beginning of the year, there was 15-20% rise in number of criminal cases opened against settlers for attacking Palestinians, compared to the same period last year, so say Police officials to Ynet.

    Today (Wednesday) five settlers from Itzhar were arrested in suspicion of attacking a Palestinian man and stealing his herd. After the Police entered the settlement and detained the suspects, the settlers closed the main gate and attacked the policemen. Additional police forces were called to aid and rescue the attacked police force.

    This incident joins a string of similar events that occurred last week: On Saturday, five teenager girl settlers attacked one Palestinian girl near Hazon outpost. The Palestinian girl was lightly injured. In another incident, a settler teenager boy was arrested in suspicion that of killing one sheep near the village of Ammatinn together with five other youths, and also firing shots that caused damage to Palestinian warehouse.

    Police officials told Ynet that there is a rise of offenses of disturbance of order by settlers aimed towards Palestinians and Palestinian property. Ynet also found out that a special meeting was held by police and IDF high ranking officers were methods were discussed for stopping the settlers offensive behavior.

    The incident at Itzhar – Police version

    A few days ago, the suspects, all residents of Itzhar settlement at the Northern Samaria, stole a herd of sheep and led it to Shaked farm near the settlement. A complaint was filed with the local police.

    The sheep owner, a Palestinian man, came to the farm and recognized his sheep by special markings. He gathered his sheep and proceeded to take them back to his village. As he was making his way, several settlers stopped him and attacked him. Police force that was nearby and saw what happened arrested the settlers.

    When the police car left the settlement, the exit was blocked with rocks and tires put there by settlers. Additional police forces were called in to assist the trapped police force. During the rescue operation, the settlers continued to make attempts to block the road. At that stage, one of the settlers was lightly injured when a police car accidentally went over his foot. He was taken for medical care. The five suspected thieves were taken for questioning at the police station.

    The incident at Itzhar – Settelers version

    The police force included Yasam (patrol unit) and detectives. They came to the settlement with a Palestinian man rom the nearby village in the car. Police let the Palestinian take some sheep that belonged to one of the local residents without consulting or notifying the owner. The Palestinian proceeded to take the herd to his village.

    Residents who saw a Palestinian walking in a place he is forbidden to enter according to military orders, called in the local civil security force. An IDF force was also called. The Palestinian fled after he saw the civil security force. The sheep were gathered back to the settlement. Other Palestinians who started nearing the place were stopped by the military force.

    The policeman hit the members of the civil security force and arrested their leaders using excessive violence. At the gate of the settlement, local residents, including women and children, tried to protest the false arrest and block the way for the police car. They were bitten violently by police forces. One of the protestors was ran over by police car and had to be evacuated by ambulance.

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    Re: 20% Rise in Settlers violence towards Palestinians

    Originally posted by sharonbn
    20% Rise in Settlers violence towards Palestinians
    How many cases per annum are there altogether? 20% of 5 is 1, for example.

    How many cases are provoked? How many unprovoked?

    How many cases are dismissed as unjustified and false accusations?

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    I for one don't really see a problem. I say arm the settlers more.

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    Hey, Sharon, while you're at it, can you dig us up statistics of deaths and injuries inflicted on Israelis in Yehuda and Shomron by gun-toting, stone and knife weilding Palestinian terrorists over the last several years?

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    Originally posted by Mediocrates
    I for one don't really see a problem. I say arm the settlers more.
    It's an interesting pathology - stealing goats, attacking unarmed little girls. Not the Judaism of my zeida, that's for sure.

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    Originally posted by Mira
    It's an interesting pathology - stealing goats, attacking unarmed little girls. Not the Judaism of my zeida, that's for sure.

    True enough - they all went up the chimney. It's the Judaism of the Macabbees instead.

    What the world needs to see is a normalization of its bigotry of Jews and Israelis and part of that is an understanding that Never Again means being just as in-your-face as everyone else whether they are honest about being earnestly engaged in our extermination or not. They count on our being docile and 'fair' and bending over backwards to appreciate the mind of the fascist and the murderer. They anticipate Israelis doing at least half of their pogrom for them in the name of appearing 'nice'.

    Screw Nice.

    AFAIK you can never be too radical. That's why I say an RPG or shoulder fired missile for every Jew in Yesha and if some wandering innocent gets capped; just shrug [palms up] and claim "What do you want US to do ??"

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    Oh Jerusalem
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    Originally posted by Mira
    It's an interesting pathology - stealing goats, attacking unarmed little girls. Not the Judaism of my zeida, that's for sure.
    It's not the Judaism of Judea and Samaria's residents, either.

    The Judaism of my grandmother also didn't advocate bad-mouthing entire communities because of the actions of an individual - let alone in front of a world eager for excuses to make Jews suffer more.

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    To You Both:

    We constantly demand that Muslims denounce the actions of those Muslims that give Islam a bad name so why shouldn’t we hold ourselves to the same standards? It is the perception of most people outside of Israel that the settlers tend to be on average more religiously motivated than the rest of Israel, so why would we allow the actions of a few bad apples to speak volumes about Judaism simply by not denouncing them. Didn’t you tell me the other day to look up the law of rebuke, OJ? What's more, a lot of these settlers aren't even native sabras, many of them are from the United States in fact. So I am ashamed for two reasons- first that they are Jews, and second because some of them are Americans. What kind of ideology leads a Jew to leave the comfort of the United States to go live in our historic homeland only to commit shameful acts of theft and unnecessary violence? Self defense I am all for, but senseless violence is not what Israel needs Diaspora Jews to contribute. The types of actions that were posted by sharonbn don’t contribute anything positive to Israel and they probably actually do more harm than good in terms of Israel’s ability to raise a real claim of self-defense in those situations when it is truly necessary to use forceful actions.

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    Binyamin
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    How many cases are provoked?
    All of them. We call it the intifada.

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    Oh Jerusalem
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    Originally posted by Mira
    please hold
    Well? I'm still holding my breath.

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    Mira~
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    Originally posted by Oh Jerusalem
    Well? I'm still holding my breath.
    Had I known, I would have waited a while longer....

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    Originally posted by Mira
    Had I known, I would have waited a while longer....

    " A person can live for a couple of minutes without air
    a couple of days without water
    a couple of weeks without food
    but without love... not even a second! "

    quote from a mediocre russian drama.

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    Originally posted by Mira
    To You Both:

    ...

    It's not about ideology it's about lving in close proximity to people who want to kill you. Higher standard? Nonsense. So some farmers steal some sheep or not even - some farmers think they've taken back what was stolen from them. And a fight with the cops ensues.

    Big freakin deal. I know a rabbi who was convicted of armed robbery. I know a pious drunkard who used to beat his wife until she hit with an iron. Such is the nature of people.

    The people who want to tar you and I and them with the same brush and trot out their you're-a-bunch-of-thugs card are going to anyway.

    Oh well, you're just more charitable than I am. I love a good alley fight. It's never a party until the cops show up.

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    Oh Jerusalem
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    Originally posted by Mira
    Had I known, I would have waited a while longer....
    http://www.evilrepublicans.com/image...HoldBreath.jpg

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    Originally posted by Mediocrates

    Oh well, you're just more charitable than I am. I love a good alley fight. It's never a party until the cops show up.
    Fighting in the US is nothing, the average american fight lasts for about 4 seconds, the first guy gives the second guy a blow in his face, the second guy falls, everybody runs away.
    In Russia fists fights and drunken fights are a tradition and a form of art.

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