IRA, Other Terrorist Groups Linked to Middle East Terrorism

[cerulean]

http://www.dailytelegraph.co.uk/news...ixnewstop.html

From the article:
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Placing the IRA within a global network of terrorism , a report by the House International Relations Committee concluded that Irish, Iranian, Cuban and possibly Spanish groups had probably "been sharing techniques, honing their terrorism skills, using illicit drug proceeds in payment".
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(Judging from the rest of the article, Spanish groups refers to the Basque terrorists.)

In addition, I have seen several articles lately that many Palestinian explosives appear to be very similar to those of IRA manufacture. Debka.com has been reporting on possible IRA involvement and suggested that the shooters last week who dressed up as IDF soldiers before shooting up some innocent villagers were not actually Palestinians but some other ethnic group (apparently a light-skinned one). Of course, Debka must always be taken with a grain of salt.

Articles I've read in the past indicated that the Japanese Red Army and the PLO cooperated (at least in the 1970s).

What is the payoff for all of these terrorist groups with different agendas to work together? I guess they can accomplish more together than separately.

Does this all mean the IRA has not really renounced terrorism (this announcement seemed fairly suspect when made in September 2001 after the WTC/Pentagon attacks)? Will this knowledge curb Irish-American support for the overly romanticized IRA terrorists?

Will it become clearer to countries that call themselves civilized that supporting terrorists like Arafat is really just a step to their own destruction?

[cerulean]

http://www.israelinsider.com/views/a...views_0378.htm

From the article:

Paul Collinson, a former British Royal Engineers bomb disposal expert now working for the Red Cross in the Jenin camp, asserts that the Irish terrorist group has probably been exporting its deadly expertise to the Palestinian killers that infest Jenin. The 200+ booby trap devices he has subsequently examined in Jenin are "identical in every detail to those encountered in Northern Ireland."

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[cerulean]

This site has short profiles of many major terrorist organizations. I can't vouch for the credentials of the site but the info I looked at seems on-target.

http://www.terrorism.com/terrorism/Groups2.shtml

[Vic]

Not much of a surprise, is it?

[cerulean]

An interesting column on IRA terrorists, with some indication of the connection to Palestinian terrorists.

http://www.jpost.com/NASApp/cs/Conte...=1020943224638

[L@mplighterM]

Like the Palestinians many Irishmen are fanatics, theirs is a battle of Catholics vs. Protestants and of course Irish Catholics vs. English.

Unlike the Palestinians terrorists they aren’t willing to die for their cause. They have however also killed indiscriminately in the past.

About 20 years ago an Irishman who worked at a building supply store traveled to Ireland for his holidays. When he got back I asked him if he’d had a nice holiday and he said, “ I killed me an Englishman”. I believe what he said and although he’s faded from my memory his words remain firmly implanted in my mind.

Several months ago three Irish Nationals had been arrested (cant remember the country but I know it was a third world country) and were charged with training terrorists.

[Belgium@EU]

Why didn't the US put the IRA on their list of terrorists? Maybe because there are too many Irish living in the states?

[JuniumJ'48]

Hello everybody-This is my first post here.....

I hope this means that otherwise peaceful Irish Americans will finally stop bankrolling the IRA 'freedom fighters'.

The level of self delusion and 'romanticism' in that community has been at dangerous levels .

I remember only recently a young Irish American lady patiently explaining to me how the IRA are 'different' from the (more active)>provisional<
IRA (PIRA),

'The IRA are peaceful' she assured me
(despite the fact that they have shared weapons/members and intelligence etc)-

'Theyre the good guys'......


oh yeah, ya gotta love those International Marxist Narco Terrorists-i mean they lie so convincingly

Theres no place for romanticism when it comes to international terrorists.

[Mediocrates]

Originally posted by Belgium@EU
Why didn't the US put the IRA on their list of terrorists? Maybe because there are too many Irish living in the states?

They (The US government) put some of their (the IRA) leaders on a list of to-be-arrested persons. Gerry Adams was on such a list for many years until, under pressure from the British government he was allowed to enter to the US as a representative of Sinn Fein which is a legitimate political organization now.

[JuniumJ'48]

Such is the price of peace- The British people heve been unbelievably tolerant in the name of peace,

convicted murderous bombers and killers have been released in droves all in the name of the process of 'peace'.... but its clear now that the IRA arent serious about that peace-

and so the IRA should be cracked down on-

Sinn Fein can say what they want- as long as the semtex has been removed from their pocket then i can tolerate that


MI6 have already made promising moves abroad arresting Irish
terrorists (RIRA) trying to buy weapons from agents posing as Iraqi intelligence (of all people)

if theyre willing to trade with Iraq, then theres no limit to the depths of Irish terrorism.

[Mediocrates]

I read two weeks ago that the UK 'representative' for the PLO Ze'Evi-6 convicted murderers being held under lock and key in the West Bank is the chap who ran Brixton during the Bobby Sands era.

[AmericaNumber1]

IRA being a "terrorist" group is subjective. The same can be said about the "JDL" (Jewish Defense League) and Shin-Bet. It's very convenient to label a group "terrorist" to enhance your point-of-view on them. Frankly, I see IRA as a very honorable group of people who see Ireland as theirs and not the colonist Brits. They fight for the rights of their people just as the Palestinians and the Israeli's are. The bottom line is this: IRA is not a terrorist organization as far as i'm concerned.

[JustPat]

Originally posted by Belgium@EU
Why didn't the US put the IRA on their list of terrorists? Maybe because there are too many Irish living in the states?

With Ted Kennedy still in the Senate, get real!

[JustPat]

Originally posted by AmericaNumber1
IRA being a "terrorist" group is subjective. The same can be said about the "JDL" (Jewish Defense League) and Shin-Bet. It's very convenient to label a group "terrorist" to enhance your point-of-view on them. Frankly, I see IRA as a very honorable group of people who see Ireland as theirs and not the colonist Brits. They fight for the rights of their people just as the Palestinians and the Israeli's are. The bottom line is this: IRA is not a terrorist organization as far as i'm concerned.

Right, and PolPot was only looking out for the linterests of his people.

[JuniumJ'48]

"Frankly, I see IRA as a very honorable group of people who see Ireland as theirs and not the colonist Brits. They fight for the rights of their people just as the Palestinians and the Israeli's are."

same old story

Yes...i fear this is a view shared by many Americans even >After< IRA members were picked up training FARC terrorists

( or will you argue that they are just another nice group of chappies kindly looking after their local drug farmers?)

Sure there isnt cast iron PROOF of this , there rarely is against the IRA- they wouldnt still be around if they were stupid.
though i think theres a case beyond reasonable doubt...

But this isnt a court of law- its OBVIOUS what they were doing to anyone who isnt in denial- did you read some those IRA mens alibis? They were laughable.

They were aiding terrorists plain and simple
Then Gerry Adams went and licked the hand of the USAs biggest pal Fido Castro- Yep - that sure is one swell Democracy loving guy!

"IRA being a "terrorist" group is subjective"

sure , so is Al Quaida come to that- everything is subjective,
but does that mean states cant uphold certain values?

Well lets see.... Hamas men have deliberately targetted civilians
thus creating terror
IRA men have deliberately targetted civilians
thus creating terror

Have the soldiers of the IDF or British Army?
Possibly in ISOLATED cases- in which case there is a legal process enacted and a system of redress....
they may sometimes cause terror - but it is not DELIBERATE (except against terrorists)

but when the Terrorists kill civilians they REJOICE- where is the redress for the victims, can Northern Irish or Israeli victims complain to the IRA/Hamas terror act complaints commmitee?

you think the IRA is a democratic 'institution' that respects the rule of law?
you think they punish those who kill civilians in any way?
you think they dont rule by violence/so called
'punishment beating'
and drug selling?

LIKE HELL

thats the harsh reality of your "honorable group".

"They fight for the rights of their people just as the Palestinians and the Israeli's are."

'fight' for rights by bombing civilians ?
Well i guess they should feel right at home showing Hamas how to kill those 'colonialist' Jews then

Im sure you have the best of intents but come back when your home town has been bombed by the IRA and tell me again they are

"a very honorable group of people"

changes things a little i think youll find....

-Oh but of course!

We innocent civilians who have never even gone NEAR the disputed land deserve what we get for 'oppresing' them!

-Right

Well thats the view of this 'colonialist Brit'