Kerry better for USA and Israel ( The World also)

[Boblight]

I don't quite understand how anyone Pro-Israel can even consider GWB for a second term! 1) Bush sounds Pro-Israeli , but he is tied to close to the Anti-Semetic dictators of the Saudi Royal Family! 2) Two he is Pro-ME oil, if oil blackmail came into being and he had to choose between supporting Israel or going against OPEC, which do you think he would choose?... Can you spell OIL!! 3) Bush's Energy Policies would cause America to be more dependent on ME oil making this not a mere commodity problem, but a matter of National Security.. Kerry has an Energy Plan that will FREE America from foreign oil, not makes US more dependent on the unstable ME east as Cheny-Bush does!! The quicker we can transistion from an oil based economy to a more diversified energy economy the better off all Americans would be. And we have the benefit of a cleaner environment, less cancer/healthcare costs, less chance of being dragged into another oil war, and less US wealth leaving the country into the hands of terrorists... Go Johnny Go! Bob

[minusthejihad]

Oh God.

Look I'm not pro-Bush, but it sounds like you have your head so far up John Kerry's ass that I'm sure you could tell me what he likes for breakfast.

And speaking of conflicts of interest, please explain how Edwards, a man responsible for elevating healthcare costs, plans to reduce them?

Lastly, this seems like you either go from board to board pasting the same paragraph or snippets, but here, you won't find too many susceptive to catch phrases like:

"It's all about the oil", "No more blood for oil", "He's in with the Saudi's", "There's no terrorism", etc.

Anyone who believes those things wholeheartedly, has a very narrow understanding of history and foreign policy.

[Mediocrates]

And speaking of conflicts of interest, please explain how Edwards, a man responsible for elevating healthcare costs, plans to reduce them?

Everyone hates lawyers until they need one, then it's all "Tear his head off and give it to me, Kill Him !!"

[David_in_NYC]

Oh boy... where does one even start on this...

Never mind, I can spot a lost cause when I see one. Bobby has been watching too many Michael Moore movies, and reading too few facts.

[Boblight]

Minus, Dave, Get used to it, Kerry will be the next President of the USA.. Even some connies are for Kerry. Bush is bad for business overseas. Nobody likes the guy! It will be quit a refreshing change to have a President that understands foriegn policy, has diplomatic skills and is not bought off by Haliburton, Exon and the Saudi-Royals.. All you who support Bush keep filling up your gas guzzlers and send your cash overseas to the Whabbi's. The Royals take your dollars and send millions around the world supporting Anti-ZionistSemetic/Israel Propaganda.. Bush will never stand up to the Royals!!.. Just read the news.. And if either of you genuises think for one minute we would send 140,000 US troops and spend billions of dollars if the Gulf region did not have 40% of the worlds oil reserves.. ,I got a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.. Keep feeding the beast with your petro dollars and sooner or latter your kids will be bowing towards Mecca!!! Bob

[minusthejihad]

Yeah, umm, Ok dude. Whatever you say.

(Notice how propaganda differs from fact when there are no sources given at all to substantiate any of those claims?)

[Donna]

Eh, whatever. If Kerry is elected, don't be surprised if we see him doing a lot of diplomatic bowing while spelling "run" out loud for the UN.

[abu afak]

I don't quite understand how anyone Pro-Israel can even consider GWB for a second term! 1) Bush sounds Pro-Israeli , but he is tied to close to the Anti-Semetic dictators of the Saudi Royal Family! 2) Two he is Pro-ME oil, if oil blackmail came into being and he had to choose between supporting Israel or going against OPEC, which do you think he would choose?... Can you spell OIL!! 3) Bush's Energy Policies would cause America to be more dependent on ME oil making this not a mere commodity problem, but a matter of National Security.. Kerry has an Energy Plan that will FREE America from foreign oil, not makes US more dependent on the unstable ME east as Cheny-Bush does!! The quicker we can transistion from an oil based economy to a more diversified energy economy the better off all Americans would be. And we have the benefit of a cleaner environment, less cancer/healthcare costs, less chance of being dragged into another oil war, and less US wealth leaving the country into the hands of terrorists... Go Johnny Go! Bob

Welcome Boblight form the Less Israel-friendly Beliefnet board:
(Home of the Amira Hass like Anti-semite 'DavidHoward', and hostile moderation)

http://www.beliefnet.com/boards/disc...?boardID=21321

I believe there is something to what you say on the Bush/Saudi/Oil connection (Carlyle Group/Bush Sr/Bandar etc)...

But Bush has made clear some things on Israel that other Presidents haven't ("Conditions on the ground"/NOT returning to th '67 borders etc) which goes beyond what other Presidents have.. I hope he means.

Just a short reaction for now.. to a much more complicated election questions/issues etc. There are some things about Bush that trouble me...
much of his non-Foreign policy, in fact.

anyway.. Welcome

[David_in_NYC]

Minus, Dave, Get used to it, Kerry will be the next President of the USA.

Thanks for the laugh. When this election ends up like Reagan-Mondale, I'll have an extra smile just thinking about you =)

[rhodescholar]

Welcome Boblight form the Less Israel-friendly Beliefnet board:

http://www.beliefnet.com/boards/disc...?boardID=21321

anyway.. Welcome
(and some of our guys should also go over there and straighten DavidHoward.. Uri Avnery/Amira hass/Gideon levy's American counterpart)

I am considering DNS'ing that site out of existence. That scu-bag DH is the controlling moderator, and has banned all of my IDs. What is so funny is how incredibly stupid the posters are over there; they keep wondering WHY ppl who support israel keep disappearing, and the thread i put up re: how the board is rigged was of course deleted. That site is a f---ing piece of sh-t.

[David_in_NYC]

I gotta say that it's remarkable that there's more censorship of the pro-Israeli side on that supposedly neutral board, than censorship of the anti-Israeli side on this unabashedly pro-Israel board.

[Gilgamesh]

I don't quite understand how anyone Pro-Israel can even consider GWB for a second term! 1) Bush sounds Pro-Israeli , but he is tied to close to the Anti-Semetic dictators of the Saudi Royal Family! 2) Two he is Pro-ME oil, if oil blackmail came into being and he had to choose between supporting Israel or going against OPEC, which do you think he would choose?... Can you spell OIL!! 3) Bush's Energy Policies would cause America to be more dependent on ME oil making this not a mere commodity problem, but a matter of National Security.. Kerry has an Energy Plan that will FREE America from foreign oil, not makes US more dependent on the unstable ME east as Cheny-Bush does!! The quicker we can transistion from an oil based economy to a more diversified energy economy the better off all Americans would be. And we have the benefit of a cleaner environment, less cancer/healthcare costs, less chance of being dragged into another oil war, and less US wealth leaving the country into the hands of terrorists... Go Johnny Go! Bob

I am not an American. So I'll sufice with general comments.
Personaly, I am interested in ideology. Being Likud registered member, I am much closer to Bush's ideology.

The left, in general, is better equipped to do wars, in publicity aspect. because when a lefitie goes to war, more people believe it's a last the resort. Also, a leftie don't have a "pro-peace" opossition as stong as the one the right always have. Bush and Sharon got hard time pushing the people into war. Rosvelt (the two of them), Trueman, Kneddie, Johnson, Willson were all leftie war presidents. Only Nixon (right) pulled the army out of vietnam...

I must remind you, that in both world wars, the USA had stark isolationist policy and was pulled into war by world events.

So Kerry, as a leftie, is better positioned to launch majore phases of the war on terror, to finish what bush started, with relative less public opposition to the war. Kerry is also, (relatively speaking) relived from pro Arab oil lobby pressures, who traditionaly side with the Right. All of this is nice and dandy, but I don't know for sure would Kerry go to war on terrorism on the first place! And this is the problem. Will he fall back, burry his head in the sand while al quida terrorists blowing things around? (like the bomb demolitions of two American ammbassies in Africa 1996, during the Clinton era. Clinton done nothing significant other then cancelling military technology projects and shrinking the army.). It is very much could be. Which is a scare, to all of the free world.

[Mediocrates]

I am considering DNS'ing that site out of existence. That scu-bag DH is the controlling moderator, and has banned all of my IDs. What is so funny is how incredibly stupid the posters are over there; they keep wondering WHY ppl who support israel keep disappearing, and the thread i put up re: how the board is rigged was of course deleted. That site is a f---ing piece of sh-t.

I find that hurling big frames [look @ your ping options list, it could be -l] in the 50,000 byte range and scripting multiple tracert to an entire subnet are a good place to start.

Just kidding, we wouldn't want to do bad things would we?

[rhodescholar]

I find that hurling big frames [look @ your ping options list, it could be -l] in the 50,000 byte range and scripting multiple tracert to an entire subnet are a good place to start.

Just kidding, we wouldn't want to do bad things would we?

Oh, never

[Boblight]

Abu, I just had enough of DH's anti-semetic propaganda. Is he really Jewish, as he says?? Bob