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    Palestinians in Syria protest against Arafat's leadership

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    Not too surprising. Arafat used Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFPL) members as bargaining chips to gain his freedom.

    Back in Januaray, the PFLP Brigades said: "We warn the Palestinian Authority's security leaders, especially Tawfiq al-Tirawi, head of West Bank intelligence, and Ramallah police chief Mohammed Saleh, to stop arresting our members and leaders, otherwise our hand will reach them whatever guards they may have."

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/wor...00/1766273.stm

    One of the reasons that after the latest bombing there weren't more discussions about exiling Arafat is because people feel that would give him more power. Many Palestinians right now, it appears, are finally seeing that Arafat thinks more about himself than their cause.

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    Re: Palestinians in Syria protest against Arafat's leadership

    Originally posted by L@mplighterM
    Radical Palestinians demonstrated against Chairman Yasser Arafat's leadership of the Palestinian Authority in Damascus today, calling his deal to end the standoff in Ramallah a "disgraceful concession" to Israel and the United States.
    The best outcome would be for the Palestinians to erode Arafat's position, then assassinate as in the usual transfer of power in Arab regimes.

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    Re: Re: Palestinians in Syria protest against Arafat's leadership

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    The best outcome would be for the Palestinians to erode Arafat's position, then assassinate as in the usual transfer of power in Arab regimes.
    Yes it would be the best outcome. I smell the winds of change what it’ll bring however is not known. I wouldn’t be surprised to see a small civil war of sorts emerge within the next month.

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    LOL; so you actually prefere the PFLP over Arafat??? Wow, you go a long end in your hate owards the man.
    they are popular in Palestine, but they will never kill Arafat, in that case they wouldn't do a sit-in but they have other possibilities. They want to adhere to palestinian unity, at least to the outside world. Of course they are not too happy with arafat, never were, but their real ennemies are israel, not Arafat, your hopes of a palestinian civil war will not become reality.

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    I think that ultimately the will get fed up with Arafat and assasinate them.

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    Hamas unhappy with church deal


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    Are they mooooooooooooooing yet?

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    Originally posted by takeo
    LOL; so you actually prefere the PFLP over Arafat???
    Well, what would the PFLP do? Support terrorist attacks against innocent Israeli civilians? Shoot missiles into Israeli population centers? Preach anti-Semitism and hatred of the West? Smuggle weapons from Iran? Run a brutal and corrupt dictatorship?

    All of this is what Arafat is already doing. Any successor would at least have a question mark, whereas Arafat is a sure thing.

    And if need be, Arafat's successor would also be removed from power.

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    Originally posted by takeo
    LOL; so you actually prefer the PFLP over Arafat??? Wow, you go a long end in your hate towards the man.
    Of course the PFLP would be preferable to Arafat. Arafat has his Nobel Peace Prize and the support of all the Eurotrash. His group was designated the "sole legitimate representive of the Palestinian people" by the Arab League in 1974. He also has the nostalga of all the aging baby boomer radicals who remember him from his glory days in the 1970s, when he addressed the UN General Assembly fresh from the massacre in Munich.

    The PFLP is just a bunch of thugs and murderers. There is simply no need for negotiation when dealing with such people. The only question would be, should the bullet go in the head or the chest? Once they and thier ilk are out of the way, the West Bank can be returned to Jordan and the Palestinian issue finally resolved.

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    Originally posted by kauffner


    The PFLP is just a bunch of thugs and murderers. There is simply no need for negotiation when dealing with such people. The only question would be, should the bullet go in the head or the chest? Once they and thier ilk are out of the way, the West Bank can be returned to Jordan and the Palestinian issue finally resolved.

    I saw a Palestinian execution on video a week or so ago. The guy was shot somewhere around 500 +/- times and then finished off with what looked like a double-barreled shotgun.

    So why can't the bullet go in the head and chest?

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    kaufner, you are a typical fascist who doesn't care nothing for the rights of palestinians or anyone that isn't your own kind.
    Seeing your location and guessing your job, that doesn't surprise me really.

    Anyway, you are right that Arafat has more international prestige so he is a better leader of the Palestinians, that's why israel wants to dispose of him, not because of those false and fabricated "evidences" against him that were never prooven and didn't even convince president Bush. That's why israel tried to assasinate Arafat on various occations in the past. But anyway whoever is the leader of the palestinians will receive broad international recognition AND support of the entire palestinian people as long as israel is continuing its oppression war against an entire people.
    The PFLP are people who are certainly not fundamentalists, their leader was a Christian, and they want the liberation of Palestine of israeli oppression, they also accepted the state of Israel within its international recognised borders and i don't think they attacked innocent civilians yet. They are much better than the thugs of hamas and i hope they will be included in any palestinian government. They also want more justice and resisted against corruption within the circles of Arafat. (that is the only accusation that might be true, but he is an elected leader and noone could ever link him with attacks on innocent people)
    by the way ididn't mind the murder of the nazi Zeevi, who wanted a genocide against the palestinians, he is someone who really deserved a bullet in the head and the chest. Better killing thugs like him than innocent children or youth as hamas is doing.

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    PFLP murder

    The PFLP is made up of unreconstructed Marxist-Leninists who are closely alligned with Syria. They have always opposed any move toward a negotiated settlement (including Oslo). They murdered a 5-year-old Israeli girl in her bedroom in Adora on April 27 and then proudly took credit afterwards. The group is best known for the 1972 massacre at Lod airport in which 27 people were killed. They are filth, absolutely the lowest of the low. Who did Ze'evi kill?

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    Zeevi didn't kill nobody... because he was minister of tourism luckily, but his ideas were absolutely nazi.
    i didn't know the PFLP was responsible for the attack on 27th april. where did you read this? Anyway i think attacks on unarmed settlers is a crime, even if their father came there as an armed occupier, it doesn't mean their children and family have to be punished for this.
    They didn't agree with Oslo, but nor did Sharon or the israeli rightwing. nowadays we can all agree that Oslo was a good beginning but left too much incertitudes and possible abuses by both sides. The PFLP is supported by Syria, so what? Syria isn't any worse than us-supported dictatorships in the neighbourhood, in fact it's less corrupted and there is less inequality than in other countries iin the region, syria also never envaded another country. Remember israel is still occupying a part of Syria. (by the way even yesterday syria said together with Egypt and SA it wants to recognise israel on the condition of retreat and negociations over the refugee-problem)
    I am not a supporter of the PFLP (because i disapproove some of their tactics) but i think this organisation can play an important and constructive role in the establishment of a Palestinian state (i don't believe Hamas can).

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    Sounds suspiciously like you're indirectly trying to impose a leadership council on the Palestinians....what's good for the goose......is pate one way or another. See when you back someone you have to be happy with whatever anarchy they install for themselves.

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