Home | I believe Iran will be next target on the war on terror after our benevolent Dictator err I mean Democratically elected President Bush gets realected.
I hope the Jews in Israel join in on the fight as well, we would appreciate their military support. So how about it Jews, you can have all the land west of the Tigris and we will occupy everyhting west of the Euphrates.
What do you think they hope to accomplish? Iran is 3 times the size of Iraq.
Why would we, Jews want that territory? Most of it is not Eretz Israel.Originally Posted by Macc
I believe Iran will be next target on the war on terror after our benevolent Dictator err I mean Democratically elected President Bush gets realected.
I hope the Jews in Israel join in on the fight as well, we would appreciate their military support. So how about it Jews, you can have all the land west of the Tigris and we will occupy everyhting west of the Euphrates.
"What do you think they hope to accomplish? Iran is 3 times the size of Iraq."
Iran is not Russia, you can drive across Iran in 1 day gimme a break. We need to overthrow that Government, and stop Iran from supporting the Terrorists. Iran has publicly stated that once they acquire nuclear weapons Jews and Christians would be in big trouble.
Iran does have an Army but it's not as Technologically advanced as US or Israel. We could obliterate that country without even invading that country with troops.
I'm looking at a hundred billion dollar cost and every active soldier in the armed forces to 'transform' Iraq of 22 million people. For Iran with 70 million people the problem has to be absurdly huge. That is unless you're talking about something else.
I think our takeo is 180 degrees wrong on 'most' Iranians detest the regime and will willingly help topple them. If anything they have more to defend then the Iraqis.
We can use our advanced weapon systems to crush their military, it would take months of constant bombings but that would help and meanwhile we can give weapons and support to the Iranian opposition.
It worked in Afghanistan.
Oh yes - Afghanistan is a model of democracy!!! Where is the American manpower and money coming from to crush Iranian military? - we can always call up those retired soldiers who are in their 60's-70's. The military is scrambling to find enough money to survive until the fiscal year ends. An article today indicates the troops are running low on ammunition. Iran needs to be crushed but until we can stablize Afghanistan and Iraq - it is a no-brainer. Perhaps if more of us volunteered for service in the military then we can accomplish this goal. And how do you defeat centuries of tribalism that is so ingrained in these societies. Probably more women are veiled in Iraq today than were under Saddam Hussein. Words come easy but in reality it does always work.
The most they should do is encourage a secular revolution, or drop EMP bombs over Tehran. It'll throw the country into chaos. If the Ayatollahs don't step down, do it again until they do.
However, attacking Iran would bring about severe consequences, e.g dirty bomb attacks in the Middle East, Europe, Russia or America, or even a nuclear strike against Israel, which if the Iranians can't do, the Pakistani's would do for them. Then it wouldn't take half an hour before we see a Nuclear Armageddon.
Hi,
Even with an advanced weapons systems to crush them, if you want to change them, you must be in the state, not 2,000 miles away !
So, even if america has advanced weapons system, a great number of GI must be send in place...
And remember there's 70 millions people !
Iran situation and Afghanistan situation are not the same !It worked in Afghanistan.
Afghanistan was attacked by the Russians and america supported Massoud and his soldiers ! But now you plan to invade or to attack another state, as usual because you don't like this state !
So no, it wasn't the same thing !
Medkorp
You've exceeded your exclamation point quota. You planned on 2180, it was a good guess, but now you owe us $147.
Only in your dreams.
Iran is completetly different from Afghanistan or Iraq.
Look at your maps: Iraq it flat as a pancake. That is good for tank-columns. It is oasis if you find a plant. Otherwise open desert territory. Tank-land.
Remember the fast progress of US-troops on their way to bagdad.
No reason to keep changing your altitude if you are sitting in an apache combat helicopter - means low fuel consumption - the apaches are hefty gas-guzzlers. Their effective range would be awfully limited in Irans huge extended mountain territory.
Mountains are excellent for hiding ... lets say 5 million angry surprisingly well armed enemies from infidel invaders. Afghanistan and Pakistan are good examples for that.
Iran is huge - okay it's not USA but don't underestimate it, I'd like to watch you crossing it in your car!
BTW: You can drive across Germany north-south (app. 900 km) in 7 or so hours. I use to do that trip once or twice every year.
But we have the only roads worldwide where you can drive REALLY fast.
Fast enough to do that trip. And I assure you, that's quite exhausting.
No enemies but police patrols and rush-hour traffic. No narrow Mountain-passages. No rain-soaked mud-roads. Fuel always available max every 20 km in constant perfect quality (um ... 1.18 Euro per liter, some 1.2 US-Dollar per quarter-gallon - but that's one of the reasons to grab Iran anyway...).
No matter if Bush or Kerry. The US put much money into the Iraq adventure.
Is there enough left for a bigger and better prepared Iran?
I bet they did everything to make an Iraq-style Invasion very, very costly.
The outcome in Iraq is not over. The outcome in Afghanistan is not over.
Another adventure like this? Never.
There are 2 objectives to accomplish here, both of which you missed.
1-remove the clerics from power. this is not too difficult as they dont hide in the country.
2-remove the nuclear plants. This would be harder since some are underground and others may not be known to the west.
Israel would need to coordinate an attack against southern lebanon to deal with the inevitablehezbollah attack. The second word got out that the US invaded iran, the animals in hezbollah would no doubt begin launching rockets from the north. A massive counterstrike would deal with this, but the US would need to corrdinate it with israel.
As for pakistan doing much of anything, dont count on it - they need uncle sam's money too much.
What would be difficult is dealing with the imported palestinian thug/vigilantes who form the core of the security guards defending the regime. The regime uses them regularly to put down democracy rallies. They would need to be killed and it would turn into another baghdad/fallujah type urban conflict. Bu the need to remove this heinous regime outweighs the costs by far.
just destroy every single nuclear plant and as much military as we can, then do the same thing to iran as NK, embargo.
<<I hope the Jews in Israel join in on the fight as well, we would appreciate their military support. So how about it Jews, you can have all the land west of the Tigris and we will occupy everyhting west of the Euphrates.
we don't want the land. Just bomb the nuclear reactors.
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