BTW I'd submit that most self professed radical Islamist terror cheering Imams probably haven't read the Quran all the way through.
BTW I'd submit that most self professed radical Islamist terror cheering Imams probably haven't read the Quran all the way through.
Mediocrates I humbly suggest you read the context of the posts.I did not ask a question of Andak. I included a link about the Koran's real interpration by an expert.Originally Posted by Mediocrates
The reason I am fuming is because the posts the Andak posted with all his BIG BUTS! all justify murdering Jewish babies and families ACCORDING TO ANDAK AND HIS GANG'S INTERPRETATION of the Koran! Which is the fuel behind the murders of Jews. Andak does not get his hands directly dirty, he just nods with agreement and "compassionate" (yuck!) understanding why Arabs should murder Jews.
Holding himself as a maven of sorts, he is one of many who support the murderers.
Basically, he took my post out of context alltogether.
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Please do not undermine yourself.
You can say that all you want. I don't hate Israel and I don't hate Israelis. If I did, I wouldn't choose this place to spend time. Being critical at all is considered hatred, just as being critical of America is considered treason by some here. In the case of Israel and America, an election should be more than sufficient to fix what ails them.Originally Posted by Batman
First you'll need to explain the term Re'eh.Originally Posted by Mediocrates
Re'eh is the Torah parsha to be read on Aug 14. It is from Devarim (Deut. 11:25 - 16:17) and it concerns the repetition of key mitzvoth including the commandment(s) to destroy idol worshipers up to and including the destruction of an entire city if required.
The case of the city is an abstract one which never occured and possibly under Halachic law could never actually occur. But the point is made that the potential to do so exists. The parsha concerns itself with idol worship which is the most frequently listed abomination in the Torah. It covers the punishments both large and small associated with idol worship. And while the punishment generally for idol worship and false prophets is generally death, the most severe punishment, stoning is reserved for Jews who cause others to follow strange gods.
http://www.aish.com/torahportion/shr...ve_and_War.asp
http://www.aish.com/torahportion/pAr...e%26%2339%3Beh
As far as anyone has been able to ascertain, this is basically how jihadists behave. Plant themselves where they are not wanted, act as a fifth column, and blow themselves up at the appropriate moment. By the way, you have been more than "merely critical" of America in your sojourn here. You are called on it regularly,Originally Posted by andak01
I do not believe that you believe your own last sentence. If Bush and Sharon are reelected I imagine you'd throw a hissy fit instead of simply accepting the will of the people.
THE KORAN IS AGAINST ARABS OCCUPYING ISRAEL
YOU AVOID ALL THAT I SAID. AS USUAL AS A TRUE JIHADIST YOU ARE LYING AND CLAIMING SOME RIGHT TO DISSENT.Originally Posted by andak01
WHY DON'T YOU TELL THE TRUTH - THE ONLY DISSENT YOU ARE INTERESTED IN IS THE ONE MAKING US FIGHT AMONGST OURSELVES BY WEAKENING OUR RESOLVE THAT YOU ARE AN ENEMY ONLY THE ONE BEHIND THE SCENES!
LIKE I SAID ALL YOU DO IS NOD AND MISINTERPRETE THE KORAN TO JUSTIFY MURDERING INNOCENT JEWISH PEOPLE IN ISRAEL!
NOT ONLY THAT! THE ONLY REASON YOU SPEND YOUR TIME HERE IS IN ORDER TO DRAW INFORMATION OUT OF US TO USE IT AGAINST US!
I AM SURE OF THAT.
GET THE HELL OUT! GO TO YOUR MOSLEM SITES AND TALK WITH THEM IF YOU DO NOT HATE ISRAELIS YOU WOULD TRY TO TALK THEM OUT OF THEIR HATERED INSTEAD OF COMING HERE TO DEBATE ABOUT OUR RIGHT TO LIVE LIFE. IF YOU DIDN'T HATE US YOU WOULD SPEAK DIFFERENTLY! NOT DEBATE WITH THE HEAD IMAM OF ITALY WHO CLAIMS YOUR SUPPORT OF ("BUT, BIG BUT..")MURDERING OF JEWS IS A MISINTERPRETATION OF THE KORAN
THE KORAN IS AGAINST ARABS OCCUPYING ISRAEL
http://www.israelforum.com/board/showthread.php?t=5551
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I know lots of people who never accepted the 'will of the people' of Bush's election. That's not really a non US phenomenom. But I userstand the point, one should use the tools of democracy to manage democracy not carbombs and vague threats of international law.
Or we could just see how large the fonts on the new software will go.Originally Posted by Mediocrates
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Using democratic methods, you would find that Muslims often end up on the same side of the fence with Jews. In fact, sometimes for the most bizarre reasons, even anti-semites and Jews may support the same platforms. For example, I knew a Palestinian aquaintance that voted for Bush simply so that he didn't have to vote for a ticket with Lieberman. I thought that was sick and ironic at the same time.
al Qaeda and Adam Shapiro may both vote for Kerry for more or less the same reason I'm afraid.
Not to worry. On the issues that you probably find most important (Israel, the war on terrorism, continued presence in Iraq), Bush and Kerry see eye to eye. To hear his convention speech, it's now Kerry who is the war president! For that matter, I don't believe we can leave Iraq now myself. In fact, this commitment of troops to Iraq would seem to be more or less permanent.Originally Posted by Mediocrates
This is what people don't understand or forget or are blinded to. In American history since just after Teddy Roosevelt it's been the Democrats who are the hawks. Bush is an anomaly in that nearly all Republicans were isolationists or at best, staging strategic withdrawls (Nixon).
But I do believe that if elected Kerry will attempt a build-down in Iraq. There is just to much political risk in doing otherwise. And lets face it; they will continue to pump oil onto the commodity market whether we like one another or not.
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