Page 4 of 4 FirstFirst ... 234
Results 46 to 57 of 57

Thread: Was Moses a Muslim? The Islamic view.

  1. #46
    Senior Member Mediocrates's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2002
    Location
    N Carolina
    Posts
    30,616
    BTW I'd submit that most self professed radical Islamist terror cheering Imams probably haven't read the Quran all the way through.

  2. #47
    Batman
    Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by Mediocrates
    Why are you picking? He didn't wire up bombs. You asked a question and he answered it.

    Does anyone want to debate with me the savagery contained in Re'eh taken on its face?
    Mediocrates I humbly suggest you read the context of the posts.I did not ask a question of Andak. I included a link about the Koran's real interpration by an expert.

    The reason I am fuming is because the posts the Andak posted with all his BIG BUTS! all justify murdering Jewish babies and families ACCORDING TO ANDAK AND HIS GANG'S INTERPRETATION of the Koran! Which is the fuel behind the murders of Jews. Andak does not get his hands directly dirty, he just nods with agreement and "compassionate" ( yuck!) understanding why Arabs should murder Jews.
    Holding himself as a maven of sorts, he is one of many who support the murderers.

    Basically, he took my post out of context alltogether.
    --------------
    Please do not undermine yourself.

  3. #48
    andak01
    Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by Batman
    AND BTW THERE ARE SOME MOSLEMS WHO DO NOT HATE ISRAEL LIKE YOU AND DO SIDE WITH ISREAL'S SIDE, ANDAK!!!!!!!!
    You can say that all you want. I don't hate Israel and I don't hate Israelis. If I did, I wouldn't choose this place to spend time. Being critical at all is considered hatred, just as being critical of America is considered treason by some here. In the case of Israel and America, an election should be more than sufficient to fix what ails them.

  4. #49
    andak01
    Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by Mediocrates
    Does anyone want to debate with me the savagery contained in Re'eh taken on its face?
    First you'll need to explain the term Re'eh.

  5. #50
    Senior Member Mediocrates's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2002
    Location
    N Carolina
    Posts
    30,616
    Re'eh is the Torah parsha to be read on Aug 14. It is from Devarim (Deut. 11:25 - 16:17) and it concerns the repetition of key mitzvoth including the commandment(s) to destroy idol worshipers up to and including the destruction of an entire city if required.

    The case of the city is an abstract one which never occured and possibly under Halachic law could never actually occur. But the point is made that the potential to do so exists. The parsha concerns itself with idol worship which is the most frequently listed abomination in the Torah. It covers the punishments both large and small associated with idol worship. And while the punishment generally for idol worship and false prophets is generally death, the most severe punishment, stoning is reserved for Jews who cause others to follow strange gods.

    http://www.aish.com/torahportion/shr...ve_and_War.asp
    http://www.aish.com/torahportion/pAr...e%26%2339%3Beh

  6. #51
    MichaelC
    Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by andak01
    You can say that all you want. I don't hate Israel and I don't hate Israelis. If I did, I wouldn't choose this place to spend time. Being critical at all is considered hatred, just as being critical of America is considered treason by some here. In the case of Israel and America, an election should be more than sufficient to fix what ails them.
    As far as anyone has been able to ascertain, this is basically how jihadists behave. Plant themselves where they are not wanted, act as a fifth column, and blow themselves up at the appropriate moment. By the way, you have been more than "merely critical" of America in your sojourn here. You are called on it regularly,

    I do not believe that you believe your own last sentence. If Bush and Sharon are reelected I imagine you'd throw a hissy fit instead of simply accepting the will of the people.

  7. #52
    Batman
    Guest
    THE KORAN IS AGAINST ARABS OCCUPYING ISRAEL


    Quote Originally Posted by andak01
    You can say that all you want. I don't hate Israel and I don't hate Israelis. If I did, I wouldn't choose this place to spend time. Being critical at all is considered hatred, just as being critical of America is considered treason by some here. In the case of Israel and America, an election should be more than sufficient to fix what ails them.
    YOU AVOID ALL THAT I SAID. AS USUAL AS A TRUE JIHADIST YOU ARE LYING AND CLAIMING SOME RIGHT TO DISSENT.

    WHY DON'T YOU TELL THE TRUTH - THE ONLY DISSENT YOU ARE INTERESTED IN IS THE ONE MAKING US FIGHT AMONGST OURSELVES BY WEAKENING OUR RESOLVE THAT YOU ARE AN ENEMY ONLY THE ONE BEHIND THE SCENES!

    LIKE I SAID ALL YOU DO IS NOD AND MISINTERPRETE THE KORAN TO JUSTIFY MURDERING INNOCENT JEWISH PEOPLE IN ISRAEL!

    NOT ONLY THAT! THE ONLY REASON YOU SPEND YOUR TIME HERE IS IN ORDER TO DRAW INFORMATION OUT OF US TO USE IT AGAINST US!

    I AM SURE OF THAT.

    GET THE HELL OUT! GO TO YOUR MOSLEM SITES AND TALK WITH THEM IF YOU DO NOT HATE ISRAELIS YOU WOULD TRY TO TALK THEM OUT OF THEIR HATERED INSTEAD OF COMING HERE TO DEBATE ABOUT OUR RIGHT TO LIVE LIFE. IF YOU DIDN'T HATE US YOU WOULD SPEAK DIFFERENTLY! NOT DEBATE WITH THE HEAD IMAM OF ITALY WHO CLAIMS YOUR SUPPORT OF ("BUT, BIG BUT..")MURDERING OF JEWS IS A MISINTERPRETATION OF THE KORAN

    THE KORAN IS AGAINST ARABS OCCUPYING ISRAEL

    http://www.israelforum.com/board/showthread.php?t=5551
    Last edited by Batman; 08-03-2004 at 07:25 AM.

  8. #53
    Senior Member Mediocrates's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2002
    Location
    N Carolina
    Posts
    30,616
    I know lots of people who never accepted the 'will of the people' of Bush's election. That's not really a non US phenomenom. But I userstand the point, one should use the tools of democracy to manage democracy not carbombs and vague threats of international law.

  9. #54
    andak01
    Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by Mediocrates
    I know lots of people who never accepted the 'will of the people' of Bush's election. That's not really a non US phenomenom. But I userstand the point, one should use the tools of democracy to manage democracy not carbombs and vague threats of international law.
    Or we could just see how large the fonts on the new software will go.

    Using democratic methods, you would find that Muslims often end up on the same side of the fence with Jews. In fact, sometimes for the most bizarre reasons, even anti-semites and Jews may support the same platforms. For example, I knew a Palestinian aquaintance that voted for Bush simply so that he didn't have to vote for a ticket with Lieberman. I thought that was sick and ironic at the same time.

  10. #55
    Senior Member Mediocrates's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2002
    Location
    N Carolina
    Posts
    30,616
    al Qaeda and Adam Shapiro may both vote for Kerry for more or less the same reason I'm afraid.

  11. #56
    andak01
    Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by Mediocrates
    al Qaeda and Adam Shapiro may both vote for Kerry for more or less the same reason I'm afraid.
    Not to worry. On the issues that you probably find most important (Israel, the war on terrorism, continued presence in Iraq), Bush and Kerry see eye to eye. To hear his convention speech, it's now Kerry who is the war president! For that matter, I don't believe we can leave Iraq now myself. In fact, this commitment of troops to Iraq would seem to be more or less permanent.

  12. #57
    Senior Member Mediocrates's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2002
    Location
    N Carolina
    Posts
    30,616
    This is what people don't understand or forget or are blinded to. In American history since just after Teddy Roosevelt it's been the Democrats who are the hawks. Bush is an anomaly in that nearly all Republicans were isolationists or at best, staging strategic withdrawls (Nixon).

    But I do believe that if elected Kerry will attempt a build-down in Iraq. There is just to much political risk in doing otherwise. And lets face it; they will continue to pump oil onto the commodity market whether we like one another or not.

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •