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    Alfred
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    Reality Check-

    70% of American Jews will vote for Kerry and a good portion of those will strain to come up with reasons why Kerry will be good for Israel. But in the end, he will not.

    But then, I cannot prove this.

    So, let's all vote for Kerry..because ideology comes over security

    I am sure the French will fix their little Jewish problem in France......

    And John Kerry's superior personality will force those nasty folks in France, the UN, Germany and elsewhere to keep Israel free.

    And of course, splitting Israel into pieces will bring Peace.

    And of course, Kerry will put down those nasty Christian conservatives (the real enemy).

    And of course, the Fuehrer was just spouting anti-semitism for political purposes....he wouldn't really do anything nasty. So let's just stay in Germany and ride this temporary problem out.



    I think alot of people are fooling themselves. But then, that isn't really new is it?



    (((What am I saying?? I am not even Jewish! Dare I care more about Israel than some Jews NOT on this board???))))

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    Sure I have. But think tanks are a far cry from an international court through which modern states subsume their own legal systems. I don't entirely disagree with you but I think the whole neocon shadow government thing is overblown. PNAC is little more than a statement of principals.

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    philingraham
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mediocrates
    Sure I have. But think tanks are a far cry from an international court through which modern states subsume their own legal systems. I don't entirely disagree with you but I think the whole neocon shadow government thing is overblown. PNAC is little more than a statement of principals.
    Your last sentence is probably not what you mean't but it is certainly what I mean e.g. Richard Perle, Elliot Abrams, Paul Wolfowitz, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, William Kristol, John Bolton, James Woolsey, Douglas Feith among others. If there was ever a list of principals acting on their principles it's this one. I hope you're right about the Neocon "shadow gov't" thing being overblown. But the recent past suggests something different.

    Also, which modern states subsume their own legal systems to an international court ? Not the US and certainly not Israel. So if anything, I would have to say that the international court thing is a little overblown...

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    Elisheba
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    Quote Originally Posted by philingraham
    So if anything, I would have to say that the international court thing is a little overblown...

    Well, IMHO, you are quite wrong on that. The "international court of injustice" is no more overblown than the united nations itself; therefore, as long as both are controlled by Eurabian interests, they are dangerous both to Israel and to life on earth in the 21st century.

    But you knew that ...

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    philingraham
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elisheba
    Well, IMHO, you are quite wrong on that. The "international court of injustice" is no more overblown than the united nations itself; therefore, as long as both are controlled by Eurabian interests, they are dangerous both to Israel and to life on earth in the 21st century.

    But you knew that ...
    But I don't know that. I agree, "the international court of justice is no more overblown than the UN". They have as much power over us as we give them.

    BTW, what the hell is IMHO ? Also, please don't presume to know what I think. It often leads to nasty exchanges...

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    Elisheba
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    Quote Originally Posted by philingraham
    But I don't know that. I agree, "the international court of justice is no more overblown than the UN". They have as much power over us as we give them.

    BTW, what the hell is IMHO ? Also, please don't presume to know what I think. It often leads to nasty exchanges...
    IMHO = in my humble opinion

    I didn't presume to know what you think; it was a joke

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    Boblight
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    Hypocrites attack Kerry'War Record!

    I find it Amazin that people on this board could attack Kerry's Vietnam Record and support Bush/Cheny who are Draft Dodgers! Bush's record in the National Gaurd is questionable at best! Let's hear the truth and look into how his records were accidently destroyed??? Give me a break, the War President, Yes, good at sending others to war! Cheny, 3 deferals to escape serving his country!! And yet the Republican hypocrites still refer to Clinton as a DD, but say Zippo about Cheny/Bush?????? Unbelievable, Republicans seem to care more about their party than the Country and Truth! And I was an independent till 2004! Until Bush is voted out, consider me a Democrat!! And we haen't even talked of Bush/Cheny's illegal DUI's... I agree with McCain that add attacking Kerry Vietnam service is dishonest and disgusting.. The Bush campaign should be ashamed of themselves!! Go Johnny Go! Bob PS along with Bush/Cheny being in alignied with the anti-Semetic Whabbi Saudi Royals ,May G-D be in favor of a New Administration this fall!!!!!!!!!..

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    Eugeenie
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alfred
    Reality Check-



    And of course, the Fuehrer was just spouting anti-semitism for political purposes....he wouldn't really do anything nasty.



    According to the currently sanctioned script, that shoud read "the Fuehrer was simply engaged in legitimate criticism of non indiginous peoples".

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    MichaelC
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob-lite
    I find it Amazin that people on this board could attack Kerry's Vietnam Record and support Bush/Cheny who are Draft Dodgers! Bush's record in the National Gaurd is questionable at best! Let's hear the truth and look into how his records were accidently destroyed??? Give me a break, the War President, Yes, good at sending others to war! Cheny, 3 deferals to escape serving his country!! And yet the Republican hypocrites still refer to Clinton as a DD, but say Zippo about Cheny/Bush?????? Unbelievable, Republicans seem to care more about their party than the Country and Truth! And I was an independent till 2004! Until Bush is voted out, consider me a Democrat!! And we haen't even talked of Bush/Cheny's illegal DUI's... I agree with McCain that add attacking Kerry Vietnam service is dishonest and disgusting.. The Bush campaign should be ashamed of themselves!! Go Johnny Go! Bob PS along with Bush/Cheny being in alignied with the anti-Semetic Whabbi Saudi Royals ,May G-D be in favor of a New Administration this fall!!!!!!!!!..
    I find it amazing to ponder the possibility that anyone on this board would take seriously the mutterings of a poster whose every post is filled with bombast and frothing at the mouth. While hysterics often provide entertainment for readers here, self control and accuracy, not to mention opinions with some meat to them, are more impressive.

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    Elisheba
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boblight
    May G-D be in favor of a New Administration this fall!!!!!!!!!..
    You have GOT to be kidding! G-D, as you put it, is not a member of an American political party nor would that occur to anyone who gave a moment's thought before posting a load of 'sound and fury signifying nothing.'

  11. #26
    wellofvow
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    Since I was born and lived in the States until I was 23, I am entitled to vote in Federal elections. My first years in Israel, I didn't exercise my right to vote since I felt that whoever the President of the US was, there was no direct impact on my life.

    However, for the last, oh, 20 years, I HAVE voted, since IMO, this situation has changed.

    And now, especially, it is important for little old me and my family in Israel who lives in the White House.

    Like most Jews, I always voted Democrat. Not this time!

    I detested Bush Senior as president. The first Gulf War was one of the greatest idiocies I have lived through.

    Seems to me that, with all his deficiencies, Bush Junior has caught on better that Dad (too bad that he hasn't understood about controlling his State Department).

    Kerry appears to be a complete fraud. He will leave Israel hanging out to dry. This is a sure thing, folks. The only thing that matters to this person is to please whoever the media and polls tells him to cater to. And this stalwartness of character changes by the day, if not by the hour. This is NOT a person in whom to invest power.

    Besides, I am very bothered by a man who puts so much emphasis on what he did 30-35 years ago. I am not the same person I was 30-35 years ago. Life is change in the human animal. HOWEVER, that said, the flip-flop that Kerry also talks about - first serving in the Vietnam War, and then becoming a vocal anti-war activist - well, if flip-flopping is a basic in his character, what American in his right mind wants someone like this as president?

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    Elisheba
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    Quote Originally Posted by wellofvow
    And now, especially, it is important for little old me and my family in Israel who lives in the White House.

    Like most Jews, I always voted Democrat. Not this time!

    I detested Bush Senior as president. The first Gulf War was one of the greatest idiocies I have lived through.

    Seems to me that, with all his deficiencies, Bush Junior has caught on better that Dad (too bad that he hasn't understood about controlling his State Department).

    Kerry appears to be a complete fraud. He will leave Israel hanging out to dry. This is a sure thing, folks. The only thing that matters to this person is to please whoever the media and polls tells him to cater to. And this stalwartness of character changes by the day, if not by the hour. This is NOT a person in whom to invest power.
    It is incredibly important that Kerry NOT be elected. He has been pandering to every arab organization he can get to listen to him.

    This will be the first time in my entire life I will vote for a Republican, but I feel I have no choice.

    Kerry and his wife's donating to funding terrorist front groups absolutely terrifies me.

    As for the State Department, I don't know what the problem is there, but you probably know it has been anti-Israel since the beginning.

    So, I will just keep my hopes up for 2008 and will wince as I vote for Dubya this November, but I WILL vote for him!

  13. #28
    wellofvow
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    I will vote for Dubya also. I don't know how my kids will vote, though. One called Bush a "buffoon" - reacting to his malapropisms, I guess. I agree that he's not appealing to the intellectual (or grammatical) snobs, but Kerry, well, I just don't buy his snake oil.

    I pray that Kerry's "popularity" is just leftist-media hype.

    I DID mention how much I despise the media, right?

  14. #29
    Elisheba
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    Quote Originally Posted by wellofvow
    I pray that Kerry's "popularity" is just leftist-media hype.
    I have been told that while the percentages appear close, Bush is ahead as far as the electoral college goes. Please don't forget that the media reports as if the US is a direct democracy rather than a representative one. I am holding onto that fact and paying no attention to the Kerry-bought-off media!

  15. #30
    KSO
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elisheba
    I have been told that while the percentages appear close, Bush is ahead as far as the electoral college goes. Please don't forget that the media reports as if the US is a direct democracy rather than a representative one. I am holding onto that fact and paying no attention to the Kerry-bought-off media!
    According to this site Kerry leads on the electoral vote too...

    http://www.electoral-vote.com/

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