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    In the Shadow of the Nuclear Ayatollah

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    In the Shadow of the Nuclear Ayatollah
    By Michael Rand
    www.IsraelForum.com

    International Atomic Energy Agency chief, Mohamed ElBaradei, heads to Jerusalem to persuade Israeli leaders to publicize and dismantle Israel’s nuclear program. In the course of his meetings, he will be treated to fine cuisine, eloquent speeches, and first-class treatment. But, when it comes to his true mission, ElBaradei will leave, for all intents and purposes, empty-handed.

    He will be diplomatically reminded that only does the IAEA lack the authority to demand much of anything from Israel, but the agency has been particularly negligent in carrying out its responsibilities to reign in terrorist-supporting rogue regimes like those of Iran and North Korea.

    The IAEA’s failures are not entirely the agency’s own fault. It is, after all, an offspring of the corrupt and hypocritical UN, which has shielded terror regimes like North Korea, Syria and Iran since its inception. The UN also stands by silently while multiple instances of genocide take place in Africa and elsewhere. And, meanwhile, incidents of UN official corruption abound, with some of the most serious allegations reaching the UN’s highest levels.

    Pure Evil

    Against this backdrop of corruption and tolerance of pure evil, the UN’s IAEA is humiliatingly powerless to enforce compliance on North Korea and Iran, both of whom have conspired and acted to bring about a global nuclear crisis. Vivid satellite photos and other irrefutable evidence showing Iran’s nuclear reactor prove that the Iranian nuclear weapons facilities have been supplied by North Korea and Russia. Still, the IAEA, the UN, and even NATO stand by dumbstruck. The international organizations haven’t a clue as to what to do about the looming crisis brought about by the nuclear Ayatollahs of Iran and their Axis of Evil allies.

    Normally, the task of saving the world from itself is one that is reserved for the United States. But the ongoing mess in Iraq has drained the US of sufficient political capital to sufficiently respond to the North Korean-Iranian nuclear crisis. And, although special care was taken during President Bush’s recent meeting with France’s Chirac to show unity between the two nations, the US can expect no backing from Europe in the Iranian nuclear matter.

    European Self-Interest

    True to form, Europe continues to oppose any action against radical Islamic terror-supporting nations, including Iran. Instead, the Europeans are busy protecting Iran’s nuclear program in the same way they shielded Saddam Hussein’s nuclear program in the 1970s and early 80s. The French-controlled EU has its own Mideast ambitions, which is to attempt to disarm Israel and chip away at the US, while gaining lucrative infrastructure contracts in Iran and in other Muslim terror-supporting countries. One of the most ridiculous European and Muslim tactics to deflect attention away from the Ayatollah’s nuclear bombs, is to raise demands that -- not Iran, but Israel -- give up its rumored nuclear weapons. The European and Arab mantra is that when faced with negative publicity, like supporting rogue regimes with illegal nuclear weapons, try to shift the spotlight to the disarmament and destruction of the Jewish State.

    The European and Arab strategy is to enlist the support of the ignorant and vulnerable portions of the Leftist movement by feeding them the false comparison between Iran and Israel. “How can we expect Iran to give up its nuclear bombs when Israel refuses to its own nuclear program?”

    Iran vs. Israel

    The comparison offered by many Europeans and Muslims worldwide relies on the listener not being aware that there are a few key differences between Israel and Iran:

    First, Israel is a Western democracy, in many ways on par with Europe and the US. Iran, on the other hand, is ruled by Islamo-Fascist radical Ayatollahs whom the US State Department assigns the blame for more than 80% of all Islamic terrorism worldwide. There is no reason that Israel should be required to dismantle its nuclear program, while truly dangerous countries like France hold on to their nuclear arsenals.

    Second, Israel is a tiny peace-seeking country situated in a sea of hostile Arab dictatorships, which have repeatedly tried to destroy Israel and perpetrate a Jihad-genocide against the Jewish inhabitants of the Middle East. Iran, on the other hand, is a sponsor of State terrorism, directly involved in creating turmoil in Iraq, Lebanon, the Palestinian-controlled territories, and all over the Middle East.

    The Ayatollahs of Iran have taken Americans hostage by the dozens and have supplied, trained, and instructed one of their many Muslim terror organizations, Hizbullah, to mass-murder more than 240 American Marines in Lebanon.

    Third, Iran and its North Korean nuclear weapons supplier, as well as Russia which supplied fuel for the Iranian nuclear program, have all signed on to the IAEA’s nuclear non-proliferation treaty, which they have clearly violated. These proven violations theoretically subject them to UN sanctions, including military action to disarm them. On the other hand, Israel, while a member of the IAEA, has never signed the IAEA’s non-proliferation treaty.

    In other words, from a legal standpoint, the IAEA and the UN have no authority whatsoever to demand anything at all from Israel concerning any alleged nuclear weapons. This is one key difference that is concealed by the Europeans and Arabs who try to confuse their audiences by deceptively comparing between Iran and Israel.

    Like Saddam’s Nuclear Reactor

    In Washington and Jerusalem, meanwhile, officials continue to form a course of action to rid the world of the Iranian nuclear threat. Israel is concerned for its very survival, while the US understands full well that if the Iranians drop a nuclear bomb on the neighboring oil fields of Saudi Arabia and Kuwait, etc., the Jihadist radical Muslim government of Iran could instantaneously topple the Free World’s economies in a strike that would make 9/11 pale in comparison.

    At the same time, both the US and Israel remember the threat posed by Saddam Hussein’s Osiraq nuclear reactor, which Israel destroyed one fine day in 1981. Without Israel’s bold action, who knows how the Iraq war would have turned out, had Saddam been in possession of nuclear weapons.

    One thing is clear, however. The UN and the EU will not lift a finger to stop Iran’s Jihadist Ayatollahs. Once again, the dirty work will be fall on Israel and the US, while the UN will no doubt condemn any such action as being "unhelpful to world peace."

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    What do you think about the conclusions reached in this article?
    Last edited by NewsGuy; 07-05-2004 at 08:49 PM.
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    What this world needs are leaders that call a spade a spade. Why invite ElBaradei to Israel and why feed him at taxpayer's expense?

    Dick Cheney told Patrick Leahy to f*** off or go f*** yourself(Leahy wanted to shake Cheneys hand) afterwards he said it felt good. I've never understood the likes of Peres that has shook Arafat's hands on several occasions. I have refused to shake hands on many occasions.

    There's too much damn diplomacy in the world today.

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    I think that an Osirak soluton to the Iran nuclear problem won't work. Iran's nuclear assets are spread out and Israel can't hit them all. Either the people of Iran will overthrow their leaders in time to stop them, or Iran will get a nuke and use it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David_in_NYC
    I think that an Osirak soluton to the Iran nuclear problem won't work. Iran's nuclear assets are spread out and Israel can't hit them all. Either the people of Iran will overthrow their leaders in time to stop them, or Iran will get a nuke and use it.
    It will take a combined US/israeli/UK attack to stop them. I think that it will definitely occur shortly after bush's re-election. It will require several battalions spread out, perhaps a full division's worth, but it will occur (G-d willing).

    Vote bush, and it will occur. Vote kerry, and NYC or other major city will be hit, i agree.

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    Excellent article.

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    Did you say UK????? Who are you kidding? At least Jack Straw was fair and said Israel had a right to have a bomb as it's existence is being threatened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhodescholar
    but it will occur (G-d willing).
    Pray earthquake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oh Jerusalem
    Pray earthquake.
    Should Bush be reelected (god willing..),he would not have much choice,neither US nor Israel may afford to let Iran reach full nuclear potential

    -Nuclear reactor in abu sheir must be destroyed (big problem is the city ,very close to the reactor)

    -Centrifugal machines factories must be levelled out

    Even if Iranians have setup an extensive array of missiles and AAF,they would be unable to stop waves of cruise missiles launched from B1s and B2s

    Am israel hai,

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    America should learn the lessons of Iraq, and not send troops into Iran. They can take out the regime and its reactors by air, and give the arabs total freedom to rebuild as they like, without occupation and foriegn intervention (or Halliburtun scandals).

    And this time they should not waste any effort with the U.N. & Co. They should just bomb Iran one day without declaring war or getting anyone else involved

    I'm still waiting for them to use the e-bomb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Binyamin
    I'm still waiting for them to use the e-bomb.
    Spam them to smithereens?

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    I don't know if they use the internet enough for that to work. And after the e-bomb, spam won't be relevant anymore.

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    Who remembers the theoretical approach Edward Teller proposed for space based X-ray lasers? Use a fission-doped laser amplifier to pump a massive X-ray burst down onto Soviet ICBMs and fry them. By fission-doped I mean use a medium yield atomic weapon to pump X-rays through large quartz rods.

    Anyway, what about the 'black fibers' or 'carbon spiderwebs' munitions? Those were proposed by the UK armed forces in Iraq as a way to cripple power generation. They work by falling onto powerlines and burning out the head end generators.

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    rhodescholar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Binyamin
    America should learn the lessons of Iraq, and not send troops into Iran. They can take out the regime and its reactors by air, and give the arabs total freedom to rebuild as they like, without occupation and foriegn intervention (or Halliburtun scandals).

    And this time they should not waste any effort with the U.N. & Co. They should just bomb Iran one day without declaring war or getting anyone else involved

    I'm still waiting for them to use the e-bomb.
    You will need ground forces as there are 6 known sites and probably several others not currently known. Several of the known sites are well underground as the iranians learned the lessons of osirak.

    The other poster is correct about using cruise missiles as there is no defense against them, but they will need to be closely followed - if not immediately so - by ground troops as i would imagine the iranians have a plan to launch a major strike on israel if their facilities are attacked.

    These troops will need to neutralize this threat before the strike just as they did to saddam's SCUDs in iraq's western desert prior to the iraq war in 2003. I would speculate there are US/israeli operatives in iran right now who will be activated to prevent this attack.

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    rhodescholar
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    Quote Originally Posted by golani
    Should Bush be reelected (god willing..),he would not have much choice,neither US nor Israel may afford to let Iran reach full nuclear potential

    -Nuclear reactor in abu sheir must be destroyed (big problem is the city ,very close to the reactor)

    -Centrifugal machines factories must be levelled out

    Even if Iranians have setup an extensive array of missiles and AAF,they would be unable to stop waves of cruise missiles launched from B1s and B2s

    Am israel hai,
    Troops are needed to remove the regime, period. As long as that regime exists, it will use its oil wealth to purchase the same weapons again, and the same threat will be faced in 20 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhodescholar
    Troops are needed to remove the regime, period. As long as that regime exists, it will use its oil wealth to purchase the same weapons again, and the same threat will be faced in 20 years.
    Agreed. I think a second George Bush presidency will initiate a similar WMD posture with Iran as with Iraq (Dec 2004,This time the world is definitely in agreement with the NPT violations). Launch an assault into to Iran from Iraq to secure the oil fields and facilities (Dec 2005, largely along the Persian Gulf) Utterly destroy what ever forces are foolish enough to attack us. Funnel the oil revenue to Iranian Democratic Opposition (We have shown in Iraq that we don’t intend on stay beyond our welcome). Dec 2006-2007, Collapse the Mullahs and dismantle the WMD infrastructure.

    Then again John Kerry could be elected at which point it’s only a mater of time before a Nuke goes off in a US or Israeli city. The whole notion that these Islamic-fascists would actual be stupid enough to physically launch a missile is foolish.

    No, what will happen is a bright flash followed by a million dead followed by this is just so terrible from every nation on earth and that they didn’t do it.

    Of course guys like Takeo will think that this is just punishment for Hiroshima & Nagasaki for the US dead and just punishment for Israel for all the suffering they have caused to the Arabs. Do to this attitude I think the US and Israel needs to act in there own best interest and F’ world opinion. We are dammed if we dammed if we don’t. I think we need to side with the approach that doesn’t result in a million dead Americans or Israelis. But that’s just me I’m a people person.

    North Korea is the tougher Nut (no pun intended) to crack. Their population has been so brain washed along with the threat of Chemical weapons pointed at Seoul. The approach to solving this problem is a quick decapitation strike along with the utter elimination of their electronic/communication infrastructure (E-Bomb Time).

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