C'mon ya need a sense of humor. I mean after next week and people like me are in the Dakota Re-Ed camps things'll quiet down.Originally Posted by minusthejihad
C'mon ya need a sense of humor. I mean after next week and people like me are in the Dakota Re-Ed camps things'll quiet down.Originally Posted by minusthejihad
Thank goodness the Amcon people didn't endorse Kerry. That would make me a bit nervous. The orlando sentinel was enough of a shock for me. They haven't endorced a Democrat in 40 years and they endorsed Kerry. It's a very, very strange year isn't it?
I enjoyed the Bubbie video...thanks. We really do need to lighten up sometimes. But, what is a Dakota Re-Ed camp?
TheyAre: That's an interesting theory about invading Iraq and depleting the supply of Osama's terrorists. Not that I thought there was a shortage, but maybe all of the people in the world that CAN be turned into terrorists (if there IS a finite amount) will be so outraged by our actions that they will go to Iraq and destroy all of the people that we are trying to free and we can destroy them all eventually in Iraq and there won't be any more, hopefully before all of the good people are slaughtered right?
Now, you know that I'm for the war in Iraq, but I'm not so sure that the reason we went to Iraq was to create a battlefield to fight Al Queda in the middle of Baghdad. I kinda hoped it was because we thought they would be much better off there without Hussein et al (after we found out we were all wrong about those weapons, cause after all Saddam WAS a walking WMD). I can hang with toppling a dictator and making all the rest of the tyrants in the world sweat quite a bit wondering who is next...and I could even consider the added benefits of cheaper oil, more jobs in a jobless recovery, making a fool out of the UN ect...but luring foreign terrorists to Iraq, and thinking there is a finite amount of them...that's a new idea. I'm not sure if I think that's true or not...I'll think on it.
Oh that's the new Poltical Reeducation Facility Annex (Camp Xray II) they've got planned..... I figure its in Dakota 'cuz like we used to say "Minot's the Spot that God Forgot..."Dakota Re-Ed camp?![]()
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Top Bush Flip-Flops on Israel
October 25, 2004
The GOP and its representatives have been working overtime to mislead American Jews about John Kerry's perfect 20-year pro-Israel voting record. Don't be fooled -- it's all part of an effort to direct American Jews away from George W. Bush's domestic record, which is clearly out of step with the vast majority of American Jews.
To get the real facts about John Kerry's record on Israel and related issues, please click here.
The false claims by GOP representatives have also been made to direct American Jews away from the many parts of George W. Bush's record on Israel that are far from perfect. The fact is, George W. Bush has repeatedly flip-flopped on many essential elements of the pro-Israel agenda. To see the truth behind George W. Bush's biggest flip-flops on Israel, please read on.
Flip-Flop #1: Israel's Security Fence
Through his own words and the policies of his administration, the record clearly shows that George W. Bush opposed Israel's security fence through at least January of this year, despite his more recent support for it. According to the White House's own web site, Bush said on November 19, 2003, that Israel should "not prejudice final negotiations with the placements of walls and fences." In fact, Bush's concerns about the fence were so strongly felt that George W. Bush cut loan guarantees to Israel in part to punish Israel for constructing the fence, according to CNN.com and the State Department briefing on November 26, 2003. And according to articles in The Forward on January 9 and January 16 of this year, George W. Bush was still continuing to oppose the fence in 2004; on January 9, the Forward wrote that the "...Bush administration ... does not approve of the fence." More recently, of course, George W. Bush and his supporters have sung a different tune.
Flip-Flop #2: Israel's Targeting of Terrorist Leaders
Following Israel's actions targeting Hamas leader Ahmed Yassin in March, White House spokesman Scott McClellan first said on-camera that "Israel has the right to defend herself." But then, according to a Reuters article on March 22, "...in off-camera comments minutes later, McClellan revised the White House position by adding, 'We are deeply troubled by this morning's actions in Gaza.'" The same rhetoric was echoed days later by the Bush Administration's Ambassador to the United Nations, who told the UN Security Council that "the United States was 'deeply troubled' by the killing of Sheik Yassin and believed Israel's action had escalated tensions in the region" (New York Times, March 26, 2004).
Flip-Flop #3: George W. Bush's Pledges to Prime Minister Sharon
Under the headline "President Bush retracts pledges to Sharon," Israel's Maariv newspaper reported in May that George W. Bush was stepping back from promises he made to Prime Minister Sharon regarding Israel's borders and the Palestinian right of return: "Despite his warm embrace of Sharon recently, US President George Bush is showing signs of capitulating in the face of pressure from Arab states. In a press conference held following his meeting with Jordan's King Abdullah today (Thursday), Bush called on Israel to withdraw from territories it captured in 1967. Bush also failed to repeat an earlier statement that Palestinian refugees will not be allowed to enter Israeli territory. 'The US will not determine the results of the negotiations,' he noted."
Just weeks later, Bush appeared before the largest annual pro-Israel gathering in the country and remained silent on his previous promises. The New York Jewish Week reported on May 21 that George W. Bush "never mentioned his April 14 promises to Sharon rejecting a Palestinian right of return to Israel and endorsing a permanent Israeli presence on portions of the West Bank, continuing diplomatic backpedaling that started with his recent promises to Jordan's King Abdullah."
Flip-Flop #4: Yasser Arafat -- Terrorist or Not?
While supporters of George W. Bush claim that he has always condemned Yasser Arafat as a terrorist, the fact is that well into his presidency, Bush refused to call Arafat a terrorist. The UPI wire service reported on April 1, 2002: "President George W. Bush on Monday said he would not label Palestinian Authority Chairman Yasser Arafat a terrorist since the Arab leader remained engaged in peace negotiations despite a week of devastating suicide bombings within Israeli cities. 'We've got a plan that will lead to peace. It's a security plan called Tenet, it's a political plan called Mitchell. Both sides have agreed to this plan,' said Bush speaking to reporters in the Oval Office. The president said that Arafat's involvement in negotiating a peace settlement has prevented him from designating him a terrorist." In a familiar pattern, more recently, Bush sings a different tune on this score as well.
Flip-Flop #5: Prime Minister Sharon's Disengagement Plan
First, George W. Bush opposed Prime Minister Sharon's landmark disengagement plan; then he supported it. The New York Times reported on December 19, 2003, that "The Bush administration, responding coolly to Prime Minister Ariel Sharon's announcement of a possible 'disengagement plan' in the West Bank, warned Israel on Thursday against taking unilateral step ... "
Flip-Flop #6: Moving the U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem
Despite George W. Bush's promising at least three major American Jewish organizations in 2000 that he would begin moving the U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem "as soon as I take office" (as he told AIPAC on May 22, 2000), and despite repeating that pledge in various public speeches at the time, he has consistently -- throughout his presidency -- waived the U.S. law that requires him to move the American Embassy in Israel to Jerusalem. As the Jewish Telegraphic Agency reported on June 16th, 2004, "President Bush suspended moving the U.S. Embassy in Israel for six more months. The White House released a statement Tuesday announcing that the embassy would not move from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem for the next half year because of national security concerns."
And the list goes on. To see more regarding George W. Bush's less-than-perfect Israel record, please click here.
"Christian Nation" Activist Is Key Bush Campaign Adviser; Bush Appoints Proselytizing "Jews for Jesus" Leader
October 24, 2004
It's being reported today that a "key Bush campaign adviser" calls America a "Christian nation." According to him, the separation of church and state is "a myth." And he's spread his message during more than 300 events over the past year -- events paid for by the Republican Party.
We've also learned that George W. Bush this summer re-appointed to a presidential committee a pastor who is a national leader of "Jews for Jesus." This person has played a leadership role in national campaigns to proselytize Jews, including one last August and September -- timed to coincide with the Jewish High Holidays.
What do these two news items have in common? A religiously-exclusive worldview, and a contempt for the civil and religious liberties we hold dear.
Beliefnet.com Reports That A "Key Bush Campaign Adviser" Calls Church-State Separation "A Myth"
Beliefnet.com reports that the Bush campaign and the Republican National Committee are "employing the services of a Texas-based activist who believes the United States is a 'Christian nation' and the separation of church and state is 'a myth.'"
David Barton, who is serving as a "political consultant" for the RNC and "who is also the vice-chairman of the Texas GOP," told Beliefnet that the GOP-sponsored events have been kept "below the radar.... We work our tails off to stay out of the news." Given his controversial past, it's easy to see why.
Barton is the author of a 1989 book called "The Myth of Separation." The Beliefnet article notes the numerous occasions on which Barton has called America a "Christian nation" -- including on Pat Roberston's Christian Broadcasting Network. He has written that America has been in decline since the Supreme Court ruled against prayer in public schools, and he has widely encouraged pastors to endorse political candidates from the pulpit -- risking their tax-exempt status.
Presidential Appointee Serves as Top "Jews for Jesus" Leader
According to the White House web site, George W. Bush this summer reappointed Lon Solomon, a top leader of "Jews for Jesus," to a presidential committee. Mr. Solomon, the senior pastor of the McLean Bible Church in Virginia, has also "been on the Board of Jews for Jesus since 1987, where he now serves as chairman of the Board’s executive committee," according to Mr. Solomon's own bio on his church's Web site.
Mr. Solomon takes his work proselytizing American Jews very seriously. In August, the Washington Times reported on an extremely well-organized effort to convert Jews in the Washington, DC area -- and Mr. Solomon's church was "the hub of the evangelistic effort." The Times called it the "largest evangelistic effort in Washington in the 31-year history" of Jews for Jesus. To add insult to injury, the campaign was timed to coincide with the High Holidays.
The Times quotes Solomon saying, "My goal is 1 million pieces of literature handed out in four weeks. I'd like to see 500 Jews and Gentiles alike pray and ask Jesus into their life. ...I love doing this."
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John Kerry on Israel: The Record
October 14, 2004
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Leadership in the Senate:
** Fact: The American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) has made note of "Kerry's 100 percent pro-Israel voting record in the Senate" (Jewish Telegraphic Agency, May 18, 2004). John Kerry has a perfect, unblemished 20-year voting record on Israel in the United States Senate -- including some 60 pro-Israel votes and signatures on key congressional letters. He took a leadership role in cosponsoring many of these efforts, dating back to his co-sponsorship of a 1987 resolution disapproving missile sales to Saudi Arabia.
Israel's Security Fence:
** Fact: John Kerry has strongly supported Israel's right to build a security fence. During a debate in February, he described the fence as "a fence necessary to the security of Israel until they have a partner to be able to negotiate" (New York Times transcript, February 29, 2004). He has stated his support for the security fence repeatedly in public forums, including during an April speech before newspaper editors when he again said, "I support the building of the security fence" (Speech before the American Society of Newspaper Editors, April 23, 2004).
"We Should Never Pressure Israel:"
** Fact: John Kerry has repeatedly and clearly stated that a Kerry Administration will never force Israel to take steps that compromise her security: "And I want you to know that, as president, my promise to the people of Israel is this: I will never force Israel to make concessions that cost or compromise any of Israel's security. The security of Israel is paramount. And we [are] an ally and we are a friend and we have a special relationship, and we must remember that. We will also never expect Israel to negotiate peace without a credible partner" (Speech before the Anti-Defamation League, adl.org, May 3, 2004). He had previously noted in a statement, "Our commitment must be clear: We should never pressure Israel to compromise its security; never coerce it to negotiate for peace without a credible partner; and always work to provide the political and military support for Israel's fight against terror" (Statement by John Kerry, April 27, 2004).
No Palestinian Right of Return:
** Fact: John Kerry has clearly noted his opposition to any Palestinian "right of return" to Israel: "Now I think what the President did in the last few days is to recognize a reality that even President Clinton came to: if you're going to have a Jewish state, and that is what we are committed to do and that is what Israel is, you cannot have a right of return that's open ended -- you just can't do it. It's always been a non-starter. I personally said that at a speech I gave to the Arab community in New York at the World Economic Forum. I've said that. I've also said that it is realistic because we know that at Taba they negotiated the annexation of certain territory. So it's really stating a reality" (NBC's "Meet the Press," April 18, 2004).
Taking On Saudi Leaders:
** Fact: John Kerry has strongly criticized our unwillingness to condemn the Saudis for their failure to fight terrorism. According to CBS News, he has vowed to "end a 'sweetheart relationship' that allows money to flow through Arab countries to terrorist groups and criticized President Bush over a report that he had struck a deal with Saudi officials to lower gasoline prices before the election. ...'I have a 100 percent record ... of supporting the special relationship and friendship that we have with Israel,' Kerry said. 'I can guarantee you that as president, I understand not just how we do that but also how we end this sweetheart relationship with a bunch of Arab countries that still allows money to move to Hamas, Hezballah and the Al Aqsa Brigade'" (CBSNews.com, April 18, 2004).
Targeting Hamas Leadership:
** Fact: John Kerry has clearly supported Israel's right to target Hamas leadership for assassination. When asked whether he supported Israel's assassination of Hamas leader Rantisi on NBC's "Meet the Press," he replied: "I believe Israel has every right in the world to respond to any act of terror against it. Hamas is a terrorist, brutal organization. It has had years to make up its mind to take part in a peaceful process; and they refuse to, Arafat refuses to" (NBC's "Meet the Press," April 18, 2004).
Ruling Out Arafat:
** Fact: John Kerry has ruled out Arafat as a legitimate negotiating partner for Israel. As he said in March, 2004, "As far as I'm concerned he's an outlaw to the peace process. ...and he's proved himself to be irrelevant" (Associated Press, March 10, 2004).
Condemning Saudi Anti-Semitism:
** Fact: John Kerry has blasted anti-Semitic comments emanating from the leaders of Saudi Arabia, saying: "Saudi Arabian Crown Prince Abdullah's outrageous anti-Semitic comments this week blaming 'Zionists' for the terrorist attacks in Saudi Arabia raises serious questions about the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia's commitment to combating terrorism. President Bush has said nothing. As President, I will never permit this kind of attack to go unanswered" (Statement by John Kerry, May 5, 2004).
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I'll meet you there at the end of the line...Originally Posted by Mediocrates
Bring a sweater because hell is going to be cold this year.
How will I recognize you ?
Maybe more than anything else that worries me is a lame duck Bush administration. Think for a moment how Clinton managed to skirt political ruin - it was because for all their efforts, Clinton didn't have to waste any energy running for office. All second term presidents are in effect lame ducks and not much of what they do has to consider re election ramifications. It can be power without limit. Now normally we actually find good things in a second term when the president can thumb his nose at everyone and push through all of things he couldn't when he had to worry about support from the Esteemed Gentleman from Voting District 43. Most of things we can point back to as successes came from second terms or in Johnson's case after he decided to not run. It's usually an opportunity for frankness and candor with the American people that presidents don't offen do during the last two years of the first term which is when the election cycle begins.
In Bush's case I see a different picture though. I see an admin already obsessed with it's own ability to push forward no matter what anyone says or does, even us. Many of the domestic policy agenda items that have been left off for Iraq will start to become more important to them: Roe v Wade, Social Security, Separation of Church and State, The next Supreme Court nomination, the PATRIOT act and the systematic destruction of the 1st, 4th and 8th ammendments of the Bill of Rights, efforts to knock out labor laws and so on.
This is still my country. I live here. Iraq is over there and as Jesus said "The poor will always be with you" so we've got to start worrying about what's going on here.
I think that in order for your worst fears to be realized, it would take a unanimity among the Republicans that I just don't see. Already there are elements of open revolt generated by the fear that they no longer stand for bedrock Conservative values. The ongoing fiscal crisis, failed borders, the corrosive influence of too much money in the political system, fear of the religious Right and their agenda, the assault on the enviroment the utter isolation of the US in world diplomatic circles, the growing influence of the security agencies are all things that have the Bush Administrations fingerprints. There are too many decent people among Republicans to let the Administration run wild in a second term.
A Message to the American Jewish Community from Professor Alan Dershowitz:
>>There are American Jews who have said recently that although they
>>support John Kerry's positions on every major domestic issue - - from the
>>Supreme Court to women's rights to gay rights - - they plan to vote for
>>President Bush because they believe Bush would be better for Israel.
>>Respectfully, I believe they are wrong for two reasons.
>>First, I know personally how strongly John Kerry feels about a safe and
>>secure Israel. I remember vividly when John went to Israel with our
>>dear mutual friend, the late Lenny Zakim, the New England director of the
>>ADL. On his return, that's all John could talk about - - his
>>admiration for Israel's combination of strength and determination to make
>>peace.
>>He has a perfect pro-Israel voting record in the Senate and I have no
>>doubt that, as president, John Kerry’s unwavering commitment to Israel
>>will continue.
>>President Bush, though well intentioned on Israel, has hurt the Jewish
>>nation's position in the world. The actions of the United States in
>>Iraq, especially since President Bush prematurely declared "mission
>>accomplished", have been disastrous for Israel. The failures in Iraq have
>>weakened the influence of the United States in the Middle East and have
>>made it much more difficult for us to thwart Iran's determination to
>>develop nuclear weapons aimed at Israeli population centers. The Iranian
>>mullahs know that Americans could not stomach another military action
>>in Iran while the occupation of Iraq continues. This reality, confirmed
>>by President Bush during the first debate, has emboldened them to speed
>>up their nuclear program - - a program that poses the greatest
>>existential threat to Israel, the Jewish people and ultimately America, since
>>an Iranian nuclear program could result in terrorists with dirty bombs.
>>The current Bush policy with regard to Iraq has weakened America's war
>> against terror by diverting military and other resources to a quagmire
>>that is only getting worse.
>>The second reason is that pro-Israel votes should not turn an American
>>presidential election into a referendum on Israel. Our goal must be to
>>keep support for Israel a bipartisan issue - - and in this we have
>>succeeded. Pro-Israel voters are free in this election to vote based on
>>other important issues, such as women's rights, separation of church and
>>state and the Supreme Court.
>>These issues actually coalesce in practice. If President Bush is
>>reelected, he will have as many as four Supreme Court vacancies in his
>>first year: and he has told us exactly who he intends to fill them with:
>>clones of his two favorite justices - - Scalia and Thomas. A Bush Supreme
>>Court will put at risk a woman's right to choose abortion. Equally
>>important it will lower the wall of separation between church and state
>>and increase the power of the religious right. *Although the religious
>>right has been very supportive of Israel - - especially in comparison
>>with the Presbyterian and Episcopal branches of Protestantism - - their
>>agenda for th American future poses considerable danger to the Jewish
>>future in America
>>They envision a Christian state with Christian schools and a Christian
>>Supreme court.
>>Listen to the Texas Republican Party platform which "affirms that the
>>United States is a Christian nation" and refers to the "myth of the
>>separation of church and state."
>>Listen to Lou Sheldon, the founder of the "Traditional Values
>>Coalition":
>>"We were here first….We are the keepers of what is right and what is
>>wrong."
>>And listen to Ralph Reed, the director of the Christian Coalition:
>>"What Christians have to do is to take back the country….I honestly
>>believe that in my lifetime we will see a country once again governed by
>>Christians…and Christian values."
And to Jerry Falwell:
"I hope to see the day when as in the early days of our country, we
>>won't have any public schools. The churches will have taken them over
>>again and Christians will be running them….We must never allow our
>>children to forget that this is a Christian nation. We must take back what
>>is rightfully ours."
>>And to Pat Robertson:
>>"The Constitution of the United States…is a marvelous document for
>>self-government by Christian people. But the minute you turn the document
>>into the hands of non-Christian people and atheist people, they can use
>>it to destroy the very foundation of our society. And that's what's
>>been happening ….If Christian people work together, they can succeed…in
>>winning back control of the institutions that have been taken from them
>>over the past 70 years."
>>The Bush Administration supports the lowering of the wall of
>>separation. Its prayer breakfasts, its faith-based programs, its Ashcroft
>>Justice Department, and its evangelical rhetoric are all music to the ears
>>of the proselytizing Religious Right. Remember President Bush's
>>inauguration, which was dedicated to "our savior Jesus Christ" and seemed
>>more like a Christian prayer service than a national civic event?
>>A Kerry-Edwards Administration would keep the wall high. Senator
>>Edwards has warned that "faith should not be used to divide us." Jews
>>especially have an important stake in the separation of church and state.
>>We are first class citizens of this great nation precisely because no
>>religious tests may be required for holding office and because the state
>>may not favor one religion over another or religion over non-religion.
>>We must preserve that neutrality for the good of America, the good of
>>Jews and the good of the world.
Professor Alan M. Dershowitz is Felix Frankfurter Professor of Law at
Harvard Law School.
10 Things Every American Jew Should Know About George W. Bush
1. George W. Bush has harshly criticized Israel recently. Less than six weeks ago, standing before the world's leaders at the United Nations, Bush "issued a direct challenge to Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon," according to the Reuters news service. A year earlier, while traveling in London, Bush made essentially the same statement http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/relea...0031119-1.htmlwhen he said, "Israel should freeze settlement construction, dismantle unauthorized outposts, end the daily humiliation of the Palestinian people, and not prejudice final negotiations with the placements of walls and fences."
2. George W. Bush has been a powerful opponent of reproductive rights. As NARAL Pro-Choice America http://www.naral.org/has noted, "When he ran for governor in 1994, Bush said he would 'do everything in my power to restrict abortions.' He has kept that promise, signing two anti-choice bills into law, issuing eleven executive actions, and selecting more than forty anti-choice nominees for federal court appointments."
3. Throughout 2003 and early 2004, George W. Bush and his administration opposed Israel's security fence. Last November, in fact, George W. Bush and Condoleeza Rice decided to cut Israel's loan guarantees by $290 million in part to penalize Israel for constructing the fence, according to CNN.com.
4. George W. Bush's faith-based programs have profoundly harmed the separation of church and state. As one newspaper reported in August, "President Bush has gone 'under the radar' and around the Congress to spread his faith-based initiative throughout the federal government, according to a new study released Monday... Taken together, the report finds that the Bush programs 'mark a major shift in the constitutional separation of church and state'" (the San Francisco Chronicle, August 17, 2004).
5. George W. Bush says "Saudi Arabia is our friend." http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/relea...030516-15.htmlThis despite virulently anti-Semitic statements by top Saudi leaders -- statements which have been answered by strong condemnations from John Kerry, and utter silence from George Bush -- and continuing Saudi support for terrorist groups like Hamas (The Weekly Standard, February 2, 2004).
6. George W. Bush's presidency has been disastrous for our environment. As the League of Conservation Voters http://www.lcv.org/has noted, "With energy policy influenced by undisclosed executives, air pollution regulations that protect industry's bottom line rather than citizens' health, and a Clean Water Act proposal that eliminates 60% of protected waters and opens the surrounding land to developers, the Bush Administration has lived up to their Big Business pasts."
7. George W. Bush has made Israel and America less secure by mismanaging the situation in Iraq. Rep. Henry Waxman and former Rep. Mel Levine explained in a recent opinion piece how reducing stability in Iraq and the Middle East harms Israel; please click here http://www.jewishjournal.com/home/print.php?id=13145to read the article in its entirety.
8. George W. Bush permits his party to call America a "Christian nation." At Bush's homestate Republican convention in June, "religion and politics commingle with comfort, purpose and zeal. Delegates ... approved a platform that refers to 'the myth of the separation of church and state'. ... A plank... proclaims the United States a 'Christian nation,'" according to the Austin American-Statesman, June 5, 2004. And Dick Cheney has endorsed, campaigned, and raised money for President Bush's hometown congressional candidate in Texas -- a woman who said in May, "We are unique in the world because we are a Christian nation..." (Cleburne Times-Review, May 7, 2004).
9. George W. Bush has retracted pledges he made to Prime Minister Ariel Sharon. Under the headline "President Bush retracts pledges to Sharon," Israel's Maariv newspaper reported in May that George W. Bush was stepping back from promises he made to Prime Minister Sharon regarding Israel's borders and the Palestinian right of return: "Despite his warm embrace of Sharon recently, US President George Bush is showing signs of capitulating in the face of pressure from Arab states." Bush's "capitulation" became evident after he met with Jordan's King Abdullah in the White House just weeks after meeting with Prime Minister Sharon.
10. George W. Bush refused to call Yasser Arafat a terrorist in 2002. The UPI wire service reported on April 1, 2002, "President George W. Bush on Monday said he would not label Palestinian Authority Chairman Yasser Arafat a terrorist since the Arab leader remained engaged in peace negotiations despite a week of devastating suicide bombings within Israeli cities."
Hey Mediocrates: We need to go buy the booze tonight (cause of the blue laws that prevent people from buying alcohol on election day!) and hide the guns for tomorrow. You know that Kerry signs are going to become target practice if Kerry winsjust something to consider since we both live in the sometimes stereotypical SOUTH
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My Mom in Mass. says they have more newly registered voters than the total turnout last time.
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