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    EU Ready for Tougher Action on Iran

    VIENNA (Reuters) - European countries are losing patience with Iran over its nuclear program, diplomats said on Friday, as France's foreign minister insisted Tehran must assure the world it does not plan to acquire nuclear weapons.

    Western diplomats close to negotiations between Britain, France and Germany and Iran said the European trio might soon be ready to support U.S. demands to refer Tehran's nuclear program to the U.N. Security Council in November.

    Iran, defying calls by the U.N. nuclear watchdog, said earlier this week it had begun processing raw uranium to prepare it for enrichment -- a process that can be used to develop nuclear bombs.

    "It looks like Iran is going to the Security Council," said one diplomat, who declined to be named. "People now are discussing what will happen when it goes there."

    The European trio have been trying for over a year to persuade Iran to abandon its enrichment program, resisting U.S. calls for tougher action to isolate and punish Tehran.

    French Foreign Minister Michel Barnier said Iran urgently needed to reassure the international community about its nuclear program, which Tehran says is purely for nuclear energy.

    "We are exactly at the time we need to be reassured and this is what we have told the Iranians," he told reporters in New York, where he was attending the U.N. General Assembly.

    "We are concerned that Iran is moving into research programs which might lead to nuclear weapons," he said. "Assurances must be given that Iran that does not wish to and shall not acquire nuclear weapons.

    "The other alternative, if we are not reassured, is naturally to submit this question to the Security Council," Barnier said. "But for the time being, I still want to believe that we will keep the spirit of this contract, and it is in the interest of Iran and the interest of stability in the region."

    It is not clear what would happen after any referral to the Security Council. Diplomats say its members would be unwilling to risk pushing up oil prices by imposing oil sanctions.

    But they said the Security Council could start with a strong statement urging Iran to co-operate with the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA).

    Such a statement would be likely to win support from permanent Security Council members Russia and China, they said.
    The United States and Israel have hinted at the possibility of military action to take out Iran's nuclear infrastructure.

    Earlier this week, Israeli officials said they were buying 500 U.S. "bunker buster" bombs capable of penetrating Iran's underground nuclear facilities.

    "ALREADY TOO LATE"

    Washington says Iran is developing nuclear bombs and has been demanding since last year that the IAEA's 35-member board report Iran to the Security Council for concealing its enrichment program for two decades.

    Last October, Iran promised the EU trio it would suspend all enrichment activities. But while Iran has not enriched any uranium, it has continued building and testing centrifuges and has begun processing uranium.

    Diplomats and intelligence officials have told Reuters in recent interviews that once Iran has enough uranium feed material for its centrifuges, it will begin enriching it.

    Negotiations between the EU trio and Iran will continue in the hope that Tehran will agree to a full freeze, but diplomats close to the talks said this was unlikely.

    Another diplomat said it would be "very Iranian" if Tehran agreed to a suspension right before an IAEA board meeting due to discuss Iran on Nov. 25, but this would not be enough.

    "The resolution called for an immediate suspension of the enrichment program," said a Western diplomat on the IAEA board. "It is already too late." (Additional reporting by Evelyn Leopold at the United Nations)

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    See true Iran in photos..
    http://conflictiran.blogspot.com/200...city-life.html

    Do you really believe that Iran will make suicide (by attacking Israel), as soon as it obtains nuclear weapon like Pakistan ?
    That's a big , that all believe to !
    Iranians are not born to die with Israelis ! They have a greater history than Israelis have. Enough to remember Cyrus the Great (first monarch of the world) and what he had done for all jews.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyrus
    http://www.georgefox.edu/academics/s...us/sld006.html

    He is the only great person, about whom it is written meritoriously both in Bible and Quran.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyrus_i...tian_tradition
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyrus_t...t_in_the_Quran

    By the way, despite islamic influence on Iranians, in fact they are still respectful to other nations.

    Jewish Iranian MP Morris Motamed: The Iranian People Has the Right to Nuclear Technology
    http://www.memritv.org/Transcript.asp?P1=1006

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    Why does Israel need the support of the United States and Europe for their pre-emptive strike?

    Why does Israel want war in the first place?

    Does not Israel have nuclear weapons too?

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    Israel is a small country that more or less needs to ask US permission to do anything all that controversial. Unlike the "opinions" of some right wing conspiracy theorists, the US much more controls Israel than vice versa.

    Israel does NOT want war. That's a lie and an insult.

    Israel just doesn't want crazy Islamists who have talked about trading 100 million muslims for 6 million Jews to have the weapons to bring about another genocide of Jews and bring on Armageddon. Do YOU want a nuclear war in the middle east (if Iran decided to live up to its threats, knowing that hundreds of millions of Muslims would survive, while Israel would not), or how about a Nuke given to Jihadi terrorists blow up in New York or Chicago or LA to show Islamic dominance.

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    Its not the Persian people. Its a small number of wackjobs at the top, who are supported by brainwashed poorer people who grant the Mullah's their support.


    Quote Originally Posted by abc
    See true Iran in photos..
    http://conflictiran.blogspot.com/200...city-life.html

    Do you really believe that Iran will make suicide (by attacking Israel), as soon as it obtains nuclear weapon like Pakistan ?
    That's a big , that all believe to !
    Iranians are not born to die with Israelis ! They have a greater history than Israelis have. Enough to remember Cyrus the Great (first monarch of the world) and what he had done for all jews.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyrus
    http://www.georgefox.edu/academics/s...us/sld006.html

    He is the only great person, about whom it is written meritoriously both in Bible and Quran.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyrus_i...tian_tradition
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyrus_t...t_in_the_Quran

    By the way, despite islamic influence on Iranians, in fact they are still respectful to other nations.

    Jewish Iranian MP Morris Motamed: The Iranian People Has the Right to Nuclear Technology
    http://www.memritv.org/Transcript.asp?P1=1006

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    Quote Originally Posted by MGB8
    Israel is a small country that more or less needs to ask US permission to do anything all that controversial. Unlike the "opinions" of some right wing conspiracy theorists, the US much more controls Israel than vice versa.

    Israel does NOT want war. That's a lie and an insult.

    Israel just doesn't want crazy Islamists who have talked about trading 100 million muslims for 6 million Jews to have the weapons to bring about another genocide of Jews and bring on Armageddon. Do YOU want a nuclear war in the middle east (if Iran decided to live up to its threats, knowing that hundreds of millions of Muslims would survive, while Israel would not), or how about a Nuke given to Jihadi terrorists blow up in New York or Chicago or LA to show Islamic dominance.
    I don't want nukes or any war on this earth period.

    My opinion is if you are going to invade Iran for such weapons then you might as well have Israel disband nuclear weapons too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alban
    I don't want nukes or any war on this earth period.

    My opinion is if you are going to invade Iran for such weapons then you might as well have Israel disband nuclear weapons too.
    What about India and Pakistan? And Russia and the US?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alban
    I don't want nukes or any war on this earth period.

    My opinion is if you are going to invade Iran for such weapons then you might as well have Israel disband nuclear weapons too.
    Why don't you have the US give up there's first, and then the other countries by size, biggest to smallest, given that the need is greatest with the smallest countries. After the China, Russia, the US, India, Pakistan, France and the UK get rid of all their nukes, then tiny little Israel will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alban
    I don't want nukes or any war on this earth period.

    My opinion is if you are going to invade Iran for such weapons then you might as well have Israel disband nuclear weapons too.


    How do you uninvent something? Wellwishing? The NPT and similar protocols exist not because something is hard but because they're rather easy. Do you see that?

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    Argentina and Brazil willingly gave up their own NWP - they hadn't gotten very far but they did stop. Of course the RSA (south africa) built 6-7 nuclear weapons and had the parts for one more before the government abandoned its deployment program in the 1979-80 timeframe. But none of this was done for strategic reasons. Their motivation was more economic and political.

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    China's case is actually quite odd. Current estimates are that they have only 30-60 functioning warheads and only a land based missile ability to project them which makes them almost moot as strategic weapons.

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    France in fact did abandon it's land based missile system anchored on the Plains of Albion site years ago. Now they have aircraft launched and SLBMs only. Now you can take this as build down or you can take it as a more significant second strike strategic threat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alban
    I don't want nukes or any war on this earth period.
    I don't want to work another day in my life period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mira
    What about India and Pakistan? And Russia and the US?
    I am all for getting rid of all nuclear weapons across the world.

    Now is it possible to do so? That remains a tough question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by minusthejihad
    I don't want to work another day in my life period.
    Your life do what you want.

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