Critical Knesset Vote on Disengagement

[KSO]

On the Road to Civil War...

While I understand that there are many Insane people in the extreme right wing camp we must watch closely on the goverment if they'll start mass aressts and mass detentions against Israeli Citizens, because in a certain situation such actions can lead to a big leap backward for our democracy, Right Wing Refusal just as Left Wing refusal should be allowed, If someone can't morally evacuate Jewish settlers he shouldn't take part in those actions just as someone who can't serve in the occupied territories shouldn't take part in this, on both occasions there will be more than enough soldiers who'll agree to take part in this.

[KettleWhistle]

While I understand that there are many Insane people in the extreme right wing camp we must watch closely on the goverment if they'll start mass aressts and mass detentions against Israeli Citizens, because in a certain situation such actions can lead to a big leap backward for our democracy, Right Wing Refusal just as Left Wing refusal should be allowed, If someone can't morally evacuate Jewish settlers he shouldn't take part in those actions just as someone who can't serve in the occupied territories shouldn't take part in this, on both occasions there will be more than enough soldiers who'll agree to take part in this.

If someone refuses to serve on the Arab-occupied territories, they should be dishonorably discharged and thrown into a labor camp for a few years. And if someone is willing to participate in ethnic cleansing of Jews from the settlements, they have no morals, honor, or love for their people and their country.

Israelis have become big-time covards as of late. They care more about what Europe says than what's morally right. They lost any sense of pride in serving their country. And they learned to run instead of confronting the enemy. I feel both shame and sorrow to see Israel deteriorate that way, but that's what happens when people are more concerned about their immediate comfort than about what they can do for their country.

[Mediocrates]

Gerald I too agree that referenda are like punting. We elect these people to lead and if they toss it back to us then it just shows they don't even have the strength of will to ACT like they have the courage of their convictions. Moreover referenda appeal to the most emotional least informed segments of the population who wave the referendum around like a proxy flag for all the other things they don't like.If they want a committment then they should be willing to rewrite their own Consitutions, or in Israel's case make an unbreakable national law.

[Ophra]

This post stands as a protest for all of the Israelies reading these forums who are sickened by KettleWhistle's signature :

http://www.maarivintl.com/newsimages/kikar%20rabin.bmp

Over 60,000 at Rabin memorial rally in Tel Aviv

His spirit lives on, and will endure forever.

Tens of thousands attended the memorial rally in Tel Aviv’s Rabin Square this evening, to mark the ninth anniversary of his assassination by convicted murderer Yigal Amir.

The organizers said nearly 100,000 people participated, police estimate around 60,000.

The late premier’s daughter Dalia Rabin-Philosof said that the murder was not the act of an insolated kook, but a planned assassination by dangerous fanatics to achieve by the bullet what they could not achieve by the ballot.

Among the public figures who addressed the crowd were Tel Aviv mayor Ron Huldai, Ben Gurion University President Prof. Avishai Braverman, actress Osnat Vishinsky, whose son was recently killed while serving in the IDF in Gaza, journalist Tali Lipkin Shahak and former Supreme Justice Meir Shamgar.

Ehud Barak and Shimon Peres attended, but did not address the crowd, at the specific request of the organizers, who wanted to avoid giving a memorial rally an overly overt political nature.

However some of the speakers addressed the disengagement issue in their speeches, praising it as an act of statesmanship vital to the well being of the state.

http://www.maarivintl.com/index.cfm?...rticleID=11457

[KettleWhistle]

Over 60,000 at Rabin memorial rally in Tel Aviv

His spirit lives on, and will endure forever.

Tens of thousands attended the memorial rally in Tel Aviv’s Rabin Square this evening, to mark the ninth anniversary of his assassination by convicted murderer Yigal Amir.

The herd goes to pray to the spirit of the Master. Yahoo!

Now on to the reality:

Hitler killed 6+ million Jews.
Rabin -- only 1000+ (and counting)

Thank you Igal Amir!

[KSO]

The herd goes to pray to the spirit of the Master. Yahoo!

Now on to the reality:

Hitler killed 6+ million Jews.
Rabin -- only 1000+ (and counting)

Thank you Igal Amir!

Sharon
2000+ (brilliant lebanon war + Refusal to negotiate or to build fence when that was unpopular)
Thank you KettkeWhistle!??...

[KettleWhistle]

Sharon
2000+ (brilliant lebanon war + Refusal to negotiate or to build fence when that was unpopular)
Thank you KettkeWhistle!??...

And what was wrong with the Lebanon war? Most people, even those who opposed it at the time, now acknoledge it was the right thing to do.

And refusal to negotiate with terrorists? Nope, that's not a problem.