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    Semsem
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    British Jews Livid At London Mayor

    http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satelli...=1101010793340

    Livid at Livingstone



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    British Jewish leaders last week told Parliament's Home Affairs Committee that they had reason to believe an attack against one of their communal institutions was in the offing.

    Violence and intimidation against Britain's Jews, from Muslim elements and the far-right, has been on the upswing.

    All this makes the policies of London's left-leaning mayor, Ken Livingstone, particularly troubling. Livingstone seems committed to building ties between City Hall and London-based Islamists.

    In doing so he has discomfited not only London's Jews, but also many of its Sikhs, Hindus, gays, and women.

    In July, Livingstone welcomed Egyptian Islamist cleric Sheikh Yusuf al-Qaradawi, who had been invited to attend a conference in the British capital. Rejecting calls to dissociate himself from the sheikh and his London supporters, Livingstone described Qaradawi as someone "who preaches moderation and tolerance."

    He explained: "The fact that I do not agree with Dr. Qaradawi, or other religious leaders, on some issues will not stop me from continuing a dialogue or sharing a platform with them on issues upon which we all agree."

    At the July conference the mayor did more than "share a platform." He pointedly invited Qaradawi back to London to attend the European Social Forum scheduled for October. And as if to spite his critics, he gave the cleric a bear hug for all to see.

    As it turned out Qaradawi skipped the October conference, but the controversy remains.

    The chairman of the British Hindu Council, Venilal Vaghela, said: "The Hindu community [has] genuine concerns about the increasing level of attacks upon our community from extreme elements within the Muslim community. The hero's welcome given to Qaradawi by the mayor will only serve to embolden such people. We feel that Mayor Livingstone has denigrated and dismissed [our] feelings."

    When a coalition of 17 groups ranging from the Board of Deputies of British Jews and moderate Muslims to the Hindu Forum of Britain and the Sikh Federation, as well as gay and women's rights groups, asked to meet with Livingstone to discuss their concerns about the cleric, the mayor refused.

    Sources in the British Jewish community told the Post they are concerned about the deepening relationship between City Hall – spearheaded by mayoral aide Redmond O'Neil – and Islamist forces inside Britain, particularly those led by the Association of British Muslims, which the community views as a front for the Muslim Brotherhood.

    The "moderate" Qaradawi has called suicide bombings "martyrdom operations."

    In an October 1, 2004 sermon broadcast live from Qatar, where Qaradawi is now based, he said: "O God, destroy the usurper Jews, the vile Crusaders... along with their supporters."

    Elsewhere he has ruled "it is permissible for him [a husband] to beat her [his wife] lightly with his hands, avoiding her face and other sensitive parts."

    Qaradawi is also a champion of female genital mutilation; and has ruled that homosexuals may be put to death "to maintain the purity" of Islamic society.

    Livingstone's response: "If you wish to say that I should not share a platform with anyone who seeks to justify suicide bombings by Palestinians, but that I should be indifferent to Israel blowing the bodies of women and children apart with modern missiles, bombs, tank shells and bullets while illegally occupying their land and destroying their homes – I can tell you that I regard such double standards to be pure moral hypocrisy."

    If anyone has his morality skewed it is clearly Ken Livingstone. Fortunately, though, he is accountable to the 25-member Greater London Assembly, where the mayor does not hold automatic sway. Critics have demanded the GLA remind Livingstone of his statutory duty to promote harmony across ethnic- and faith-based communities.

    Now several members of the GLA from the Conservative, Liberal Democrat, and Green parties have called for an inquiry into both Livingstone's lack of consultation with groups affected by the Qaradawi visit and his disregarding the statutory obligation to promote racial harmony.

    The chances of an inquiry are good.

    Such an examination must also delve into Livingstone's apparent desire to foster ties between City Hall and extremist Muslims.

    That Livingstone wants to reach out to Muslim constituents makes sense. What's perplexing is his embrace of extremists. Perhaps an official inquiry will provide some answers.

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    RichardP
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    It makes you wonder about those who voted this idiot, and blatant anti-Semite, in the first place. I believe his nickname is 'Red Fred'... the Brits are steeped in a 'tradition' of pandering to the lunatic-fringe'. Then again, it seems as though the whole of Western-Deomocracies are following suit.
    Last edited by RichardP; 11-21-2004 at 05:16 PM.

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    Semsem
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    Well at least this jerk now has the Jews, the Hindus, women and gays against him. And yet he was still reelected!

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    tandem
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    Quote Originally Posted by Semsem
    Well at least this jerk now has the Jews, the Hindus, women and gays against him. And yet he was still reelected!
    what a shame! this guy is one stupid f--k. instead of embracing terrorists, why won't he meet with muslim moderates who despise arab monarchies and terrorists and their brutal oppression of people? contrary to his mediocre comparison between israel and palestinian terrorists and even the arab world, israel doesn't behead people, israel doesn't lynch arabs, israel doesn't hang children like iran does, israel doesn't stone people to death. and yet this guy thinks that he has the higher moral ground? LMAO! this guy is perfect for campaign contributions from bin ladin.

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    golani
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    Quote Originally Posted by tandem
    what a shame! this guy is one stupid f--k. instead of embracing terrorists, why won't he meet with muslim moderates who despise arab monarchies and terrorists and their brutal oppression of people? contrary to his mediocre comparison between israel and palestinian terrorists and even the arab world, israel doesn't behead people, israel doesn't lynch arabs, israel doesn't hang children like iran does, israel doesn't stone people to death. and yet this guy thinks that he has the higher moral ground? LMAO! this guy is perfect for campaign contributions from bin ladin.
    Guys, I spit on Livingstone if he is really as antisemitic as you describe
    However,people like him because he is the first mayor in London to try to adress traffic congestion and very poor state of london "tube"
    I do not try to excuse his shameful behavior but according to some papers,traffic in downtown London is lower thanks to his sophisticated scheme of high daily taxes for all private cars entring London
    The whole system is processed by an extensive network of camera
    Money from taxes is used to refurbish public transportation

    Hitler killed millions of people but he put german people back to work ....

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    KettleWhistle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Semsem
    Livingstone's response: "If you wish to say that I should not share a platform with anyone who seeks to justify suicide bombings by Palestinians, but that I should be indifferent to Israel blowing the bodies of women and children apart with modern missiles, bombs, tank shells and bullets while illegally occupying their land and destroying their homes – I can tell you that I regard such double standards to be pure moral hypocrisy."
    Talking about PR, the British Jewish communities aren't vocal in publically rebuking this hypocrisy. As usual, the community leaders are playing the games of political correctness instead of getting out and condemning Livingstone's double standards and "blame the victim" MO. I've heard that London has a substantial Jewish community, and it makes me wonder why aren't there are mass protests, demonstrations, and active, strongly negative, and newscatching condemnation of Livingstone.

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    RichardP
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    Livingstone is garbage, the fact that he’s Lord Mayor of London, speaks volumes. Yes, I believe there is a substantial Jewish community in London, though, no doubt, the Muslim population is greater.

    One hears complaints about the ineffectiveness of the Jewish Leadership, in other major cities, throughout Europe. Possibly, they are either suffering from, as said, political correctness, or they believe, by ignoring it; anti-Semitism will disappear. We know what that lead to, no too many decades past.

    The fact that this barefaced anti-Semite holds such a prestigious position causes me great concern: not just about London, but, the UK generally.

    I must look into this wanker, more closely. I do know, when our son lived in London, we were more concerned about the radical Muslim (yep, they all are, in one way, or the other) (comment by Canajew: there was no need for this bracketed statement and it is an offensive generalization) population there. Especially me, as I am not an optimist but a worry-wart.
    Last edited by Canajew; 11-22-2004 at 12:35 PM.

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    Leon
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    someone needs to moderate the new moderator

    Canajew, relax.

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    RichardP
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    Canajew; if it's offensive censor it, however, there is much I find spouted by a few or more anti-Semites on IF; and have yet, to see, them get their knuckles rapped. Actually, I agree, it is much too sweeping a statement, but at the moment, I felt, it expressed my angst at the time. Then again some may argue that there are few in the Muslim community who take a stand against these bilious terrorists, and hence, we don't know or can't be certain who amongst ‘them’ is or is not radical or at least cheer them on, as they massacre more Jews. Cheers!

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    Semsem
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    [QUOTE=KettleWhistle]Talking about PR, the British Jewish communities aren't vocal in publically rebuking this hypocrisy. <<

    I lived in England 10 years. Jews there and in Europe are scared to speak up and terrified it will stir more antisemitism. In my opinion they are making a grave error.

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