ABBAS: 'Fight against Zionist enemy to go on'

[Leon]

Obviously if according to the so called Arab (non existant and mythical) "moderates", the "fight against the Zionist enemy must go on," then they are unwilling to negotiate peacfully with Israel and therefore Israel, as the party with the upper hand owes them nothing.

Anyone still thinking about full transfer or the "samson option" as the only reasonable "negotiating" tool? I certainly think it is.


'Fight against Zionist enemy to go on'
By JPOST.COM STAFF



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Just days after denouncing rocket attacks against Israel as causing harm "solely to the Palestinians," the frontrunner for the Palestinian Authority chairmanship Mahmoud Abbas managed to rattle Israel's cage when he referred to the Jewish state as "the Zionist enemy".

Addressing a crowd of some 1,000 supporters at an election rally in Khan Yunis in the Gaza Strip on Tuesday, Abbas said: "The struggle against the Zionist enemy will continue until the establishment of an independent Palestinian state."

On Monday, the 69-year-old interim head of the Palestine Liberation Organization leveled criticism at Palestinian organizations responsible for firing Kassam and other rockets at Israel describing their deeds as "useless, and do not help the Palestinians and their cause."

Abbas' comments upset Palestinian radical organizations such as Hamas and Islamic Jihad as well as the Aksa Martyr's Brigades, the military wing of the mainstream Fatah movement, which issued a joint statement equating Abbas' words with "a stab in the back."

Foreign Minister Silvan Shalom reacted to Abbas' comments saying, "These are militant messages that haven't been voiced for a while. Comments like these are dangerous and should not be overlooked even if they were said in the context of elections," Army Radio reported.

Vice Premier Ehud Olmert said that Abbas' words against Israel are unacceptable and undermine the possibility of cooperation with him in the future. Olmert declared that Israel will respond appropriately to his statements after the Palestinian chairmanship elections, should be elected the new leader of the Palestinian people.

Iran and the Lebanese Shi'ite group Hizbullah are infamous for labeling Israel as "the Zionist enemy".

[RichardP]

Not being an optimist when it comes to the Palestinians and their so-called leadership; Abbas’ vitriolic rhetoric only confirms, to me, nothing has changed or will change for Israel. As the Western world’s leadership remains delusional that there is hope for peace: I, for one, see no change in the Palestinian mindset, they are war-mongering, parasitic anti-Israel/Semites.
I remain a pessimist, or, as I see it, a realist: though I hope I am mistaken.

[defari]

I'm happy that Arafat died, because he was nothing but an idiot fooling his own people and at the same time he let his fat wife spend all the money that was meant for his movement. That shows that he didn't care about his people at all. And how could he call himself a leader when he didn't even have an alternative plan when rejecting every generous peace offer made my Israel?
That made me think that anybody is better than him. But after so many remark against every Israel's moves from this guy doesn't give me much optimism. How do you support and negotiate with a guy who openly admits to protecting terrorists? He is no better than that ugly Arafat. He seems to be just as stubborn.

[RichardP]

You hit the proverbial nail on-the-head, defari… Arafat was a scumbag, and now, Abbas… the scumbag…. Go figure!

[KettleWhistle]

I think its just pre-election rhetoric. Hamas gained much ground in the local Pal elections in December, so Abbas is trying to pretend to be millitant. I'll be judging him and what he does once/if he gets elected.

[RichardP]

Good point, KettleWhistle, though I wouldn't want to bet on it. Nonetheless, I hope you're right.

[Leon]

I think its just pre-election rhetoric. Hamas gained much ground in the local Pal elections in December, so Abbas is trying to pretend to be millitant. I'll be judging him and what he does once/if he gets elected.

I dont think he should be let off the hook because it was "just pre-election rhetoric." Such "pre-election rhetoric" only encoruages more terror against innocent Israeli civilians. As part of his pre-election rhetoric he should preach the exact opposite. After all he is suppossed to be a "moderate."

Anyway, he should be held accountable.

Do u think any other country would have let him off the hook?
Israel owes these war mongering terrorists nothing.

[defari]

I also hope that the next Palestinian leader will learn from so many decades of "nothingness". To take the same road as Arafat will not help their situation. I'm not Israeli nor Jewish, but I will never understand what's so wrong with the Israeli rule.
Why do they want the Palestinian refugees to go back to Israel if they hate Jews but Jews would rule over them? Oh my bad, they know that Palestinians, especially Muslim Palestinians won't have it better than in a Muslim country. Israel gives its citizens democracy. Good treatment. Isn't that what we all want? They (Palestinians won't admit it). As soon as they confirm happiness it's bye bye bye to all the money they receive.
I truly hope that Abbas wilk not take Arafat's path of lies, denial and support of those who kill innocent Israelis. But so far he made a very bad impression, at least to me. It's Arafat all over again, with a different face. Until Palestinians learn to compromise the conflict will go on. And that's a shame.

[RichardP]

Compromise isn’t in their vocabulary, nor will it ever be. Unfortunately, the world is being duped and refuses to see the Palestinians’ one and only objective; the total eradication of Israel.
Agreed, Leon; Abbas’ rhetorical hatred is no smokescreen to pander for the vote. Abbas is no different than Arafat; except, he looks as if he bathes more… and for the moment, he is still breathing and spewing malevolent hatred.

[defari]

I know that it won't happen overnight, but even the world is tired of this conflict. So therefore I hope that Palestinians take this opportunity and actually try to negotiate with the Israelis on a deal.

BUT, Jerusalem should never be compromised, NOT EVEN FOR PEACE!!! It's Jewish and it should be under the Israeli rule. Israel is constantly trying to make things better but no matter what Palestinians don't like which made me think they don't want peace at all.

[RichardP]

I hope you’re right, defari; however, for this to come about, heavy demands and measures must be held over the Palestinians’ and their leaderships’ heads. I can’t foresee this happening, as it’s the Israelis who are continuously badgered and cajoled to make sacrifices for peace. What do they get in return? Nothing; but more demands from the West; not to mention, to be continually accused of being the bully or antagonist, by the same.

[defari]

Since the start Palestinians have been using the media to get the world's pity. Their favorite thing is showing young helpless kids throwing stones at mighty tanks. They succeded. They will continue to do so. Europe is blinded by their propaganda. So therefore Europe will NEVER put high demands on them.
I agree, it didn't give Israel nothing. We live in a world where honesty, truth, self-protection doesn't mean anything anymore. Not just that. Anything that has a connection to USA is a taboo. Israel is a friend of US, therefore it is bad. That's all the evidence Europeans need.

How Europeans fall for pictures of Hamas members holding rifles and still think "poor them" is beyond me.

[KettleWhistle]

I dont think he should be let off the hook because it was "just pre-election rhetoric." Such "pre-election rhetoric" only encoruages more terror against innocent Israeli civilians. As part of his pre-election rhetoric he should preach the exact opposite. After all he is suppossed to be a "moderate."

Anyway, he should be held accountable.

Do u think any other country would have let him off the hook?
Israel owes these war mongering terrorists nothing.

In between having somebody reasonable ("moderate") running some rhetoric to get elected and having Pals elect Hamas, I think the former is the lesser evil. Israel doesn't own them anything, but it isn't about them. It is about what is good for Israel in the long run.

[Leon]

In between having somebody reasonable ("moderate") running some rhetoric to get elected and having Pals elect Hamas, I think the former is the lesser evil. Israel doesn't own them anything, but it isn't about them. It is about what is good for Israel in the long run.

I second to what RichardP said when he compared Abbas to Arafat.

When people think that Abbass is a "moderate" solution to Hamas they only fool and decieve themselves. Its certainly the easy short term option - just like bringing back Arafat from the pits of Africa into the heart of Israel, turning him into an international statesman and sharing a noble peace prize with him was an easy short term "quick fix" option which ended up as a long term disaster.

And on the contrary, whilst Hamas clearly states its aims, Abbas and friends are more "tactical" when it comes to the destruction of Israel. This makes them far more dangerous than Hamas.

As you said Israel doesnt owe them anything -- so they dont need to negotiate with anyone. Negotiating with people who refuse to give up murder and terror cannot be good for Israel in the long run. They only understand and appreciate one language - so in repsonse and for everyonbe's longterm benefit (including theres) Israel should speak that language.

[Leon]

I also hope that the next Palestinian leader will learn from so many decades of "nothingness". To take the same road as Arafat will not help their situation. I'm not Israeli nor Jewish, but I will never understand what's so wrong with the Israeli rule.
Why do they want the Palestinian refugees to go back to Israel if they hate Jews but Jews would rule over them? Oh my bad, they know that Palestinians, especially Muslim Palestinians won't have it better than in a Muslim country. Israel gives its citizens democracy. Good treatment. Isn't that what we all want? They (Palestinians won't admit it). As soon as they confirm happiness it's bye bye bye to all the money they receive.
I truly hope that Abbas wilk not take Arafat's path of lies, denial and support of those who kill innocent Israelis. But so far he made a very bad impression, at least to me. It's Arafat all over again, with a different face. Until Palestinians learn to compromise the conflict will go on. And that's a shame.

excellent point