Stop saying that "IF ISRAEL HAD ANY CONCESSIONS THERE WOULDN"T BE WAR" that is a bear-faced lie and you know it. Camp David was meant to end the Palestinian-Israeli issue. Maybe no one was ready, but the main point is that the Israelis had something on the table, Arafat never made his offer. He just felt insulted and took off. You understand that Israelis and especailly ehud Barak wanted the peace. Arafat never insisted on a Camp David. Like i said...Clinton Invented the idea, Barak Initiated the Idea, and Arafat accepted the Idea of the Camp David 2000 talks!! If for all i care, the Talks could have been NOW than 2000, and Ehud would be prime minster. It is the Politicians who wanted the infifhada and not the People. The people were growing and even under occupation life was good. They had jobs and the economy was growing, slwoly but growing. So what went wrong there? are u still accusing israel of being the bad guy because they initiated the peace at camp david...that is obscurd comment to say.
Well, Mr Takeo...about the refugees....
The russians did have something and they were jews. And unlike the Palestinians who are intrested in just making mayhem and anarchy in Israel. Sure, you can say that the Russians don't have anything to do with israel, but than again what do the palestinians have? the 'home land?" well..im not russian, im Syrian Jew..and my homeland is in Syria and yet, i can't travel, and im barred from my homeland. Like the many jews who you so much deny, that left the Arab/Middle eastern world from the 1900's to the 1970's....... They never got compesated and were ignored the rights.....so what do you tell a jew who has no rights in a place like YEMEN (which till today had a rule to expel jews that was made in there bill at around 1923)??? You wouldn't sayanythiing? There was a jewish refugee problem from the Middle east countries, yet instead of putting them in refugee camps and depriving them, they got home and there independence in Israel. And as you said.....since the palestinians are arabs, what the point if they go to a Deomocratic jewish state??? So they can topple it??? Why not send them to there own brothers and sisters in the Arab world?? Why is that? or are u just trying to make the war seem more bitter? All you want to do is creat an East and West palestine! And bring more anarchy. Right of Return is not in the Geneva conventions and you know that if today we would suck up to R.O.R and have peace, there will be trouble in 20-50 years from now. I am not going to let this happen. So don't threaten the jewish state with whats on the Geneva convetions because you arabs have ripped the Convention many times in the past 50 years...not just for our wars, but for your own people.
First of all, Don't try to make the call and say that Jordan and Lebanon are sooo poor and generous people. The palestians are the ones who started the 15 year civil war in Lebanon. They ignited it. On the Jordanian side, the Jordanians in just 3 weeks massacred 20,000 Palestinians!! Now are they generous and sensere!!! Look here.... i know you missing alot of points and some your reufse to know, but the fact is, you cannot have a peace process that would allow a civil war to take place! YOU WANT A CIVIL WAR IN ISRAEL! And i know that if we make peace with the arab world than they would stab us in the back! That is why i am not going to accept something like that, which is ridiculous. If the world wants to play a good part, than i think that 4 million refugees can go to all parts of the world and gain citizenships. They can live in luxenborg, and england and spain and argentina and USA and Canada and all sorts of places. Remember, PA mocked Canada last year for being the first to step out and trying to resolve the refugee issue, by letting them in their country...the PA called it FRUITLESS!!! How dare they!!!
you are truly a denier!!! You are speechless when i tell you that the arabs weren't budging on the war. And evenso, you seem to little or no agree with me that the same sort of punishment and even worser would happen to the Israelis like it is happened to the Palestinains! That seems to show how and why Israel won the war and would still need to defend itself. You brought up the war and you lost it. And yet you never signed peace for it. You realize that the WB would have became part of Jordan? so now where is the Peace process with palestinians?
But listen, im not talking about waht the Syrians wants to have relations with Israel......Im talking about how they acted in 1940's...They were the ones who ruined the relations and freedome for the palestinians....the palestininas weren't the ones fighting. it was the Jordanians and Syrians...and they made them lose! they were the arrogant one, they were the aggressors and they lost. How can you say they want to have relations only if Palestinians rights are observed when they march with there tanks and Phantom-5's and try to destroy israel. that is insane!!!
Still, whatever it was it was an expulsion!!! People just don't say they want to move cause its sunnier. Russians were torchered in Russia and Syrian jews did not have any rights. We left for fear and we wanted a better life. There is nothing about zionism or any nationalistic movement.. infact if Zionism is so bad for you than so is Arab/Islamic Nationalism? And do you know why? because Arab Nationalism focuses on Pure Islamic Countries and Pan Arabism country where there would be an Empire of the whole 25 Arab countries in 1. So whats the difference? Jews wanted a homeland where they can live without pogroms and hatred, just because you don't live in that country doesn't mean you have to mock it. I am proud to live in Israel. I know that there was many troubles for jews, even before the turn of the century and we had enough!!! Israel was our hope! Israel was our TIKVA! So leave Israel alone and give us our own state and homeland!!!