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  1. #151
    Luke90
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    What is N.T?
    The Christian New Testament

    what would have happened to Jews if Jews openly came out against Jesus?
    What do you mean?
    It depends what you're talking about and where in the world?

  2. #152
    Toga
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luke90
    The Christian New Testament


    What do you mean?
    It depends what you're talking about and where in the world?
    See...if you had known something about Judaism or the Jewish teachings you would not have asked me that question. The very name of N.T. suggests certain things. Look, I live in a predominantly Christian land with a Christian culture. This country has been very good to Jews. I love it. We have striking theological differences but it does not matter as we are all Americans.

    Any interpretation is subjective. If you could read the biblical Hebrew and not the translation then if would be easy for you to make up your mind. However, since you, probably, will not learn the language you will always rely on those who tell you what they want to tell you.

    Our rebbes read the book in its original language. They don't need anyone to interprete the book for them.

  3. #153
    Luke90
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    The question I asked you was do you agree with that website's assesment that the New Testament is anti-semitic.
    It's a simple question and you haven't answered it.
    You either believe that it is or it isn't. I suppose you could argue that the original wasn't but the modern translation is. Is that what you're trying to say.
    I certainly admit that I don't have much knowledge of Judaism which is why I ask questions. Obviously you aren't obliged to answer any of my questions but if you do want to I'll be intersted.

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    Dear Lord, save me from your followers. That kind of thing.

  5. #155
    Toga
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luke90
    I certainly admit that I don't have much knowledge of Judaism which is why I ask questions. Obviously you aren't obliged to answer any of my questions but if you do want to I'll be intersted.
    Well...there is no easy way. You don't know anything about Judaism. Therefore, my answer to you would be meaningless.

  6. #156
    Luke90
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    It was basically a yes or no question.
    I may not understand the reasons for you answering the way you do, but I'm still interested to see what your answer is.

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    goliath
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    Dear Lord , save me from Thou.

  8. #158
    Toga
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luke90
    It was basically a yes or no question.
    I may not understand the reasons for you answering the way you do, but I'm still interested to see what your answer is.
    Jews don't accept the NT. The very name and the premise of the NT is not acknowledged by Jews.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toga
    Jews don't accept the NT. The very name and the premise of the NT is not acknowledged by Jews.
    First of all, there are Jews who do accept it. They are as much Jews as you and me, having Jewish blood flowing throu their bodies.

    But most of all, why do you trust some crackpot web site's claim that NT is anti-Semitic? Why not read it, and study it, and see what it says for yourself so that you'll have an idea of what you are talking about?

  10. #160
    Toga
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    Quote Originally Posted by KettleWhistle
    First of all, there are Jews who do accept it. They are as much Jews as you and me, having Jewish blood flowing throu their bodies.

    But most of all, why do you trust some crackpot web site's claim that NT is anti-Semitic? Why not read it, and study it, and see what it says for yourself so that you'll have an idea of what you are talking about?
    Jews who accept Yoshke abdicate all their rights as Jews. They cannot be burried among Jews, make aliyah, etc. They are the outcasts of the Jewish community who eventually totally disappear.

    Luke cannot read the Hebrew language. Therefore, he will have to rely on some bogus translation of the bible (the Torah).

  11. #161
    KettleWhistle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toga
    Jews who accept Yoshke abdicate all their rights as Jews. They cannot be burried among Jews, make aliyah, etc. They are the outcasts of the Jewish community who eventually totally disappear.

    Luke cannot read the Hebrew language. Therefore, he will have to rely on some bogus translation of the bible (the Torah).
    Sorry, dude, but you're off on this one. Anyone with Jewish parents is a Jew. Atheist Jews don't follow Judaism, and they can make aliah and be buried among other Jews. It is a matter of descent, not religion.

    As for "Yoshke," do you even know what his teachings are? Do you know that at least 99% of what he said does not contradict Torah in any way? And Luke was asking about NT, the Christian Scripture, and not the Tanah.

  12. #162
    Toga
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    Quote Originally Posted by KettleWhistle
    Sorry, dude, but you're off on this one. Anyone with Jewish parents is a Jew. Atheist Jews don't follow Judaism, and they can make aliah and be buried among other Jews. It is a matter of descent, not religion.

    As for "Yoshke," do you even know what his teachings are? Do you know that at least 99% of what he said does not contradict Torah in any way? And Luke was asking about NT, the Christian Scripture, and not the Tanah.

    Jews who accept Buddha, Yoshke, Muhammed, Rajnish, etc. abdicate all their rights as Jews and cannot be burried among other Jews nor can they make aliyah. Call an Israeli consulate in LA. Tell them you pray to Yoshke and listen to what they tell you.

  13. #163
    Luke90
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    Jews don't accept the NT. The very name and the premise of the NT is not acknowledged by Jews.
    I know Jews don't accept the NT but what I was asking was a very simple question.
    Do you or do you not think that the NT is anti-semitic?
    Yes or No?

  14. #164
    Luke90
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    Just to clarify, I'm not asking whether you think it fits in with Judaism which seems to be the question you answered.
    I meant do you consider it anti-semitic as in the normal meaning of the words and the meaning implied by JewsforJudaism.org in their FAQ?

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