Documented cases of media dishonesty

[MGB8]

Because there is no "they" and there is no "conspiracy" so there is no "control."

There is a difference between a large number of Jews being Hollywood and some boogeyman "the Jews" controlling hollywood.

Its VERY offensive, and, quite frankly, the fact that you don't get it creates a lot of questions about you.

It denies the INDIVIDUALITY of these Jewish people. It suposes some sort of group think and conspiracy theory.

It also implies dual loyalties and some nefarious plan.

By the way, what exactly is "controling Hollywood" anyways? Did the Jews control Hollywood to nominate the Pal Arab suicide bombing glorification flick, paradise now, for an oscar and Golden Globe (it one the later). How about producing Faranheit 9/11 (which is anti-Israel) or did the Jewish Actress get put in Passion of the Christ as a spy? Come on!


It is an anti-semetic canard, nothing more. There is NO SUCH THING AS "THE JEWS." "THE JEWS" doesn't exist. Its like saying "the Blacks" or "the Christians" or "the Muslims" - as if they were a monolithic whole.

Now, you could cite some Jews who share a specific ideology, but you have to get pretty darn specific to get to a coherent group.

Why are you resisting the idea, the very simple idea, that there just happen to be a lot of people of Jewish descent in Hollywood - probably because it attracts creative thinkers who are willing to take risks, and Jews have a lot of those in their population.

[MGB8]

Israel is a leading tech country and people announce it without shame. Its different.

As for the US and white people, white people still have it pretty good in the US. The major corporate heads are still almost universally white (and male) as are the politicians and judges and cops and university professors.

And since people, naturally, prefer to hire/promote/bring around them people who are more like themselves, well, white people get more advantages than disadvantages in the US.

[Alban]

Because there is no "they" and there is no "conspiracy" so there is no "control."

There is a difference between a large number of Jews being Hollywood and some boogeyman "the Jews" controlling hollywood.

Its VERY offensive, and, quite frankly, the fact that you don't get it creates a lot of questions about you.

It denies the INDIVIDUALITY of these Jewish people. It suposes some sort of group think and conspiracy theory.

It also implies dual loyalties and some nefarious plan.

By the way, what exactly is "controling Hollywood" anyways? Did the Jews control Hollywood to nominate the Pal Arab suicide bombing glorification flick, paradise now, for an oscar and Golden Globe (it one the later). How about producing Faranheit 9/11 (which is anti-Israel) or did the Jewish Actress get put in Passion of the Christ as a spy? Come on!


It is an anti-semetic canard, nothing more. There is NO SUCH THING AS "THE JEWS." "THE JEWS" doesn't exist. Its like saying "the Blacks" or "the Christians" or "the Muslims" - as if they were a monolithic whole.

Now, you could cite some Jews who share a specific ideology, but you have to get pretty darn specific to get to a coherent group.

Why are you resisting the idea, the very simple idea, that there just happen to be a lot of people of Jewish descent in Hollywood - probably because it attracts creative thinkers who are willing to take risks, and Jews have a lot of those in their population.

There is a difference between a large number of Jews being Hollywood and some boogeyman "the Jews" controlling hollywood.

Its VERY offensive, and, quite frankly, the fact that you don't get it creates a lot of questions about you.

It denies the INDIVIDUALITY of these Jewish people. It suposes some sort of group think and conspiracy theory.

It also implies dual loyalties and some nefarious plan.

I am not trying to imply anything. I am asking questions. I am having conversation.

By the way, what exactly is "controling Hollywood" anyways? Did the Jews control Hollywood to nominate the Pal Arab suicide bombing glorification flick, paradise now, for an oscar and Golden Globe (it one the later). How about producing Faranheit 9/11 (which is anti-Israel) or did the Jewish Actress get put in Passion of the Christ as a spy? Come on!

Control to me is the same thing like the word dominance or dominance presence.

Why are you resisting the idea, the very simple idea, that there just happen to be a lot of people of Jewish descent in Hollywood - probably because it attracts creative thinkers who are willing to take risks, and Jews have a lot of those in their population.

I am not resisting the idea. Quite the contrary I know there is alot of Jews in Hollywood.

Even you admit it.

[Alban]

Israel is a leading tech country and people announce it without shame. Its different.

As for the US and white people, white people still have it pretty good in the US. The major corporate heads are still almost universally white (and male) as are the politicians and judges and cops and university professors.

And since people, naturally, prefer to hire/promote/bring around them people who are more like themselves, well, white people get more advantages than disadvantages in the US.

As for the US and white people, white people still have it pretty good in the US. The major corporate heads are still almost universally white (and male) as are the politicians and judges and cops and university professors.

Most of the politicians and people of power sell their own people out.

They do not represent the white race.

It is the same in Europe.

And since people, naturally, prefer to hire/promote/bring around them people who are more like themselves, well, white people get more advantages than disadvantages in the US

Affirmative Action says otherwise followed by racial quotas and hate whitey mentalities.

[MGB8]

The more you post, the more you seem like a white supremacist. The fact that you cannot see a difference between a lot of Jews in Hollywood and "Jewish control" is troubling. I promise you, there are more gentiles than Jews in hollywood, so i guess Christians control hollywood for the Christian Agenda. Ditto banks, lawfirms, etc. etc.


As for affirmative action, you can disagree on it, but its not "selling the race out" - its minor things at the margins. Its made out to be a much bigger deal than it is. In reality, given the benefits of being white in American, even with things like Affirmative Action, which I'm ambivilent about, White people come out on top.

[Alban]

The more you post, the more you seem like a white supremacist. The fact that you cannot see a difference between a lot of Jews in Hollywood and "Jewish control" is troubling. I promise you, there are more gentiles than Jews in hollywood, so i guess Christians control hollywood for the Christian Agenda. Ditto banks, lawfirms, etc. etc.


As for affirmative action, you can disagree on it, but its not "selling the race out" - its minor things at the margins. Its made out to be a much bigger deal than it is. In reality, given the benefits of being white in American, even with things like Affirmative Action, which I'm ambivilent about, White people come out on top.

The more you post, the more you seem like a white supremacist. The fact that you cannot see a difference between a lot of Jews in Hollywood and "Jewish control" is troubling. I promise you, there are more gentiles than Jews in hollywood, so i guess Christians control hollywood for the Christian Agenda. Ditto banks, lawfirms, etc. etc.

A analogy. Many Muslims control the oil industry because they are the dominant countries with oil.

Are they the only ones? No. They are the most dominant nonetheless.

As for affirmative action, you can disagree on it, but its not "selling the race out" - its minor things at the margins. Its made out to be a much bigger deal than it is. In reality, given the benefits of being white in American, even with things like Affirmative Action, which I'm ambivilent about, White people come out on top

Black American college funds.

All Black colleges and campuses.

Hispanic college funds.

It is ok to have a all black or hispanic company but a all white company is out of the question and is racism.

Racial quota for every place of employment or face the federal government closing you down.


Yeah Affirmative Action is so fair.

Come out ahead yeah right.

[Gilgamesh]

A analogy. Many Muslims control the oil industry because they are the dominant countries with oil.

True, because the oil producing Arab countries (and some others, like Venezuela) are ORGINIZED! they have and ORGANIZATION, where they decide the oil quotoes and prices. This ORGANIZATION is called OPEC.

Jews have many organizations, none of those control anything, let alone hollywood. Had we Jews really control holywood, would any anti-Israeli film would be acceptable?

Are they the only ones? No. They are the most dominant nonetheless.

Depends how you define "dominat". Jews have no controll over holywood or the media or anything cause we are NOT ORGINIZED around any spacific agenda, nor is there a similar attitude toward Jewish culture or heritage.

It is ok to have a all black or hispanic company but a all white company is out of the question and is racism.

Don't care, not my problem. I am an Israeli. Feel free to whine about it as much as you wish, but not on this forum.

We have affirmative action toward Arabs, which I consider racist against Jews.

[Alban]

True, because the oil producing Arab countries (and some others, like Venezuela) are ORGINIZED! they have and ORGANIZATION, where they decide the oil quotoes and prices. This ORGANIZATION is called OPEC.

Jews have many organizations, none of those control anything, let alone hollywood. Had we Jews really control holywood, would any anti-Israeli film would be acceptable?

Depends how you define "dominat". Jews have no controll over holywood or the media or anything cause we are NOT ORGINIZED around any spacific agenda, nor is there a similar attitude toward Jewish culture or heritage.

Don't care, not my problem. I am an Israeli. Feel free to whine about it as much as you wish, but not on this forum.

We have affirmative action toward Arabs, which I consider racist against Jews.

Don't care, not my problem. I am an Israeli. Feel free to whine about it as much as you wish, but not on this forum.

We have affirmative action toward Arabs, which I consider racist against Jews

Your a compassionate fellow , aren't you?

True, because the oil producing Arab countries (and some others, like Venezuela) are ORGINIZED! they have and ORGANIZATION, where they decide the oil quotoes and prices. This ORGANIZATION is called OPEC.

Are you guys not organized by culture and religion?

Organized by nationalism?

Organized by Israel?

Depends how you define "dominat". Jews have no controll over holywood or the media or anything cause we are NOT ORGINIZED around any spacific agenda, nor is there a similar attitude toward Jewish culture or heritage.

Dominant by influence. Is that descriptive enough for you?

I suppose I will get a red flag or flamed after saying that.

[Gilgamesh]

Are you guys not organized by culture and religion?

No we are not! Even Jews who have similar values and ideas do not co-operate on matters or interests outside their business.

Organized by nationalism?

Having national identity does not implay organization or co-operation.

Organized by Israel?

Those "organazied by Israel" are in Israel, not Hollywood. Jews are highly individualistic and have their own set of ideas of what has to be done, and disagree with most other Jews.

Dominant by influence. Is that descriptive enough for you?

In holywood that I see and dislike, is the Christian influance, even within the works of other Jews.

I accept the existance of Jewish influance, as much as there is Black influance, or Catholic influance. Where ever people exist, they influance each other. Yet, I have the firm belief, that Jewish influance in the best there is on the whole of humanity. The whole ideas of moralism, justice, freedom, lieberty and equality are based on Jewish biblical ideas.

[Alban]

No we are not! Even Jews who have similar values and ideas do not co-operate on matters or interests outside their business.

Having national identity

Those "organazied by Israel" are in Israel, not Hollywood. Jews are highly individualistic and have their own set of ideas of what has to be done, and disagree with most other Jews.

In holywood that I see and dislike, is the Christian influance, even within the works of other Jews.

I accept the existance of Jewish influance, as much as there is Black influance, or Catholic influance. Where ever people exist, they influance each other. Yet, I have the firm belief, that Jewish influance in the best there is on the whole of humanity. The whole ideas of moralism, justice, freedom, lieberty and equality are based on Jewish biblical ideas.

No we are not! Even Jews who have similar values and ideas do not co-operate on matters or interests outside their business.

Alright.

Having national identity

That seems to be enough of a reality to make a organized existance to me.

Those "organazied by Israel" are in Israel, not Hollywood. Jews are highly individualistic and have their own set of ideas of what has to be done, and disagree with most other Jews.

Alright.

In holywood that I see and dislike, is the Christian influance, even within the works of other Jews.

Alright.

I am not a fan of Christianity either.

I accept the existance of Jewish influance, as much as there is Black influance, or Catholic influance. Where ever people exist, they influance each other. Yet, I have the firm belief, that Jewish influance in the best there is on the whole of humanity. The whole ideas of moralism, justice, freedom, lieberty and equality are based on Jewish biblical ideas.

This is where I must disagree with you.

I don't believe one influence should conquer or be better then all others.

People should have a choice or should have a choice of what influence.

People should have a choice of their future and everything their future dictates.

[Gilgamesh]

This is where I must disagree with you.

I don't believe one influence should conquer or be better then all others.

People should have a choice or should have a choice of what influence.

People should have a choice of their future and everything their future dictates.

There is a supermaket of ideas in the world, most of the best products there were created, packaged and delivered by MY people, the Jewish people. Everybody has full freedom to fill his cart with whatever idea suits him best.
Influance is the net choise of people

[Alban]

There is a supermaket of ideas in the world, most of the best products there were created, packaged and delivered by MY people, the Jewish people. Everybody has full freedom to fill his cart with whatever idea suits him best.
Influance is the net choise of people

Yet you just said that your thoughts and views like yours were the best.

Yet, I have the firm belief, that Jewish influance in the best there is on the whole of humanity

[MGB8]

So what, he likes his ideas the best. You like your ideas the best. What's your point?

Meanwhile, you appear to want the US to be a white only, or at least white dominant country. Not because of any "heritage" but purely because of race, and a somewhat paranoid (IMO) view that other people are getting ahead of white people.

By the way: in small business, there ARE WHITE ONLY BUSINESSES and Black only and Hispanic only, etc.; However, NO LARGE BUSINESS IS single racial. There is no black only large business, not even BET. There are some black dominated businesses, but, the vast majority of businesses are white dominated. The bottom line, the thing you have to ask yourself: am I making an issue out of nothing? And if so, what is my motivation for doing so - what is my anxiety that causes me to be anti-non-whites based on?


ps... if you want to keep the US a white majority country, which, while not PC, is not an unreasonable feeling (I want the US dominated by people like me)... the easiest way to do that is to assimilate white hispanics (a good number are white - ie. Charlie Sheen) and have a lot of babies.

[minusthejihad]

Your funny you should be a comedian.

I am. Amateur circuit.

[minusthejihad]

Jews have many organizations, none of those control anything, let alone hollywood. Had we Jews really control holywood, would any anti-Israeli film would be acceptable?

Exactly. Didn't Paradise Now just with a Golden Globe? Duh! If Jews do control Hollywood, then it's the self-hating, white guilt laden, anti-Israeli and anti-American Jews that do. And what does that prove or accomplish? Nothing.