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  1. #46
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    Quote Originally Posted by minusthejihad
    I am. Amateur circuit.
    Would I have heard of you before? Are you popular?

  2. #47
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    Quote Originally Posted by MGB8
    So what, he likes his ideas the best. You like your ideas the best. What's your point?

    Meanwhile, you appear to want the US to be a white only, or at least white dominant country. Not because of any "heritage" but purely because of race, and a somewhat paranoid (IMO) view that other people are getting ahead of white people.

    By the way: in small business, there ARE WHITE ONLY BUSINESSES and Black only and Hispanic only, etc.; However, NO LARGE BUSINESS IS single racial. There is no black only large business, not even BET. There are some black dominated businesses, but, the vast majority of businesses are white dominated. The bottom line, the thing you have to ask yourself: am I making an issue out of nothing? And if so, what is my motivation for doing so - what is my anxiety that causes me to be anti-non-whites based on?


    ps... if you want to keep the US a white majority country, which, while not PC, is not an unreasonable feeling (I want the US dominated by people like me)... the easiest way to do that is to assimilate white hispanics (a good number are white - ie. Charlie Sheen) and have a lot of babies.
    So what, he likes his ideas the best. You like your ideas the best. What's your point?
    My only arguement is that there is no one idea or thought that is better then all the thoughts of the whole of the world. Different lines of thoughts work for different people.

    Meanwhile, you appear to want the US to be a white only, or at least white dominant country. Not because of any "heritage" but purely because of race, and a somewhat paranoid (IMO) view that other people are getting ahead of white people.
    I have no problem with other people. It is only when they create problems for my own people do I have problems. Believe me I am all for peace and equality but it has to have everyone in it with no exclusion.

    Also look at hollywood and the media it is awfully bias and anti-white by nature.



    By the way: in small business, there ARE WHITE ONLY BUSINESSES and Black only and Hispanic only, etc.; However, NO LARGE BUSINESS IS single racial. There is no black only large business, not even BET. There are some black dominated businesses, but, the vast majority of businesses are white dominated. The bottom line, the thing you have to ask yourself: am I making an issue out of nothing? And if so, what is my motivation for doing so - what is my anxiety that causes me to be anti-non-whites based on?
    Well I notice alot of discrimination in the work place and alot of it is on whites I have noticed. Are there other forms of discrimination? Yes there is, but alot of the white discrimination you will never hear about it.

    It never gets any news.

    Noone seems to talk about it.


    ps... if you want to keep the US a white majority country, which, while not PC, is not an unreasonable feeling (I want the US dominated by people like me)... the easiest way to do that is to assimilate white hispanics (a good number are white - ie. Charlie Sheen) and have a lot of babies.
    Sounds like a plan only one problem the movement that is large today that indocrinates whites to hate themselves and their culture.

    I call it the guilt ridden complex of modern academics and media.

    Also I think it is safe to say that the media plus popular culture of hollywood,television and movies dominates modern culture and politics which goes into government and also social class.

  3. #48
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    Quote Originally Posted by minusthejihad
    Exactly. Didn't Paradise Now just with a Golden Globe? Duh! If Jews do control Hollywood, then it's the self-hating, white guilt laden, anti-Israeli and anti-American Jews that do. And what does that prove or accomplish? Nothing.
    Fair enough.

    I understand.

  4. #49
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alban
    My only arguement is that there is no one idea or thought that is better then all the thoughts of the whole of the world. Different lines of thoughts work for different people.
    True, yet Jewish originated ideas, got the most popularity, due to free choise of each individual.

    I have no problem with other people. It is only when they create problems for my own people do I have problems. Believe me I am all for peace and equality but it has to have everyone in it with no exclusion.
    Then we are on the same boat.

    Also look at hollywood and the media it is awfully bias and anti-white by nature.
    Also anti semetic, anti Israel, anti Jewish ect... But you have a choise. Throw the TV out, don't wast money of bad movies, and listen or read only the things that talk to you're heart. Heck, I read either Zionist staff or Sci-Fi, and I skip the news serivce in Israel.

    Well I notice alot of discrimination in the work place and alot of it is on whites I have noticed.
    Fine, try getting a job in Europe then... Where "whites" rull of something.

    Are there other forms of discrimination? Yes there is, but alot of the white discrimination you will never hear about it.
    Cause we don't care very much. The "whites", if they half as powerfull as they consider themselves to be, can sure handle themselves without my help.

    Also I think it is safe to say that the media plus popular culture of hollywood,television and movies dominates modern culture and politics which goes into government and also social class.
    Hollywood creates public opinion. Serious papers cause more affect then hollywood. But it ain't the whole deal. You see, people should be tought to think for themselves, pick up books and understand the world around them by their own power. I do that, and so do my friends in this forum. Ultimately, one rip what one saw. You eat what you cooked. If the majority of the people allow somebody to think for them, then they have a majore problem. No reason to blame the media or hollywood for "mind control conspiracy". It ain't very true.

    You should be honest to yourself and admit your own failurs. Don't blame others for being what they are. If you can't make it in some place, move on and look for better opertunities.

  5. #50
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilgamesh
    True, yet Jewish originated ideas, got the most popularity, due to free choise of each individual.

    Then we are on the same boat.

    Also anti semetic, anti Israel, anti Jewish ect... But you have a choise. Throw the TV out, don't wast money of bad movies, and listen or read only the things that talk to you're heart. Heck, I read either Zionist staff or Sci-Fi, and I skip the news serivce in Israel.

    Fine, try getting a job in Europe then... Where "whites" rull of something.

    Cause we don't care very much. The "whites", if they half as powerfull as they consider themselves to be, can sure handle themselves without my help.

    Hollywood creates public opinion. Serious papers cause more affect then hollywood. But it ain't the whole deal. You see, people should be tought to think for themselves, pick up books and understand the world around them by their own power. I do that, and so do my friends in this forum. Ultimately, one rip what one saw. You eat what you cooked. If the majority of the people allow somebody to think for them, then they have a majore problem. No reason to blame the media or hollywood for "mind control conspiracy". It ain't very true.

    You should be honest to yourself and admit your own failurs. Don't blame others for being what they are. If you can't make it in some place, move on and look for better opertunities.

    True, yet Jewish originated ideas, got the most popularity, due to free choise of each individual.
    Ok.

    Then we are on the same boat.
    Good to agree about somthing.


    Also anti semetic, anti Israel, anti Jewish ect... But you have a choise. Throw the TV out, don't wast money of bad movies, and listen or read only the things that talk to you're heart. Heck, I read either Zionist staff or Sci-Fi, and I skip the news serivce in Israel.
    I watch little television.

    The problem is there is a major majority of people who watch television and get alot of their ideas of being from television.

    The major majority affects my life and others.

    I think people who own parts of television have a responsibility of giving the truth and not half truths or lies.


    Fine, try getting a job in Europe then... Where "whites" rull of something.
    It is just as bad in Europe.


    Cause we don't care very much. The "whites", if they half as powerfull as they consider themselves to be, can sure handle themselves without my help.
    If you are on the same boat as me why do you exclude whites from equality?


    If the majority of the people allow somebody to think for them, then they have a majore problem.
    I couldn't agree with you any more. There is definately is a problem here in Western Civilization of having others think for you so you don't have to.

    We need to think for ourselves.


    Hollywood creates public opinion. Serious papers cause more affect then hollywood. But it ain't the whole deal. You see, people should be tought to think for themselves, pick up books and understand the world around them by their own power. I do that, and so do my friends in this forum. Ultimately, one rip what one saw. You eat what you cooked. If the majority of the people allow somebody to think for them, then they have a majore problem. No reason to blame the media or hollywood for "mind control conspiracy". It ain't very true.
    Well hollywood and the media should have responsibilities for truth and honesty.


    You should be honest to yourself and admit your own failurs. Don't blame others for being what they are. If you can't make it in some place, move on and look for better opertunities
    I try to admit to my failures everyday.

    I try to become stronger and wiser everyday.

    I am looking for better days and opportunities in the future.

  6. #51
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alban
    If you are on the same boat as me why do you exclude whites from equality?
    Who said I am? Do I suppose to solve your problems? Am I expecting you to solve mine?

    I sympethise with your critisism of leftic messages in media and other staff.
    I do not accept a "Jewish conspiracy" behind it, cause these guys are hurting Jewish interests first, aspecialy Jews in Hollywood.

    Hollywood problem is lack of knowladge and values. They are concered only with what is fasionable.

    I couldn't agree with you any more. There is definately is a problem here in Western Civilization of having others think for you so you don't have to.
    Right! Then the problem is not with hollywood, but with the general population who is unconcerened, uninterested and doesn't care.

    Well hollywood and the media should have responsibilities for truth and honesty.
    Can't agree more!

  7. #52
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    A good time to bump up this thread.

    So many articles are published about Israel's Gaza "blockade", about the lack of electricity, about the border breach with Egypt. Here's a BBC cry-me-a-river op-ed about life in Gaza. All blame Israel, either explicitly or implicitly. None state the truth.

    Here are some facts:
    1. 70% of Gaza's electricity are provided by Israel. Hamas shut down the electricity to schools and hospitals and staged massive candlelight protests. None of the mass media outlets explicitly reported this fact. Instead they all focused on the Hamas-induced suffering, blaming Israel's "blockade". None reported the truth on the matter. None said how it was all well-planned, how Hamas members hid behind their women and children when they tried to provoke Egyptians at the border crossings.

    2. Gaza's "suffering" is always blamed on Israel. No media outlet mentions the fact that Gaza's government is at war with Israel. Every one publishes the ficticious claims of "human rights violations" and "breaches of international laws". None state the truth--there are no violations of either. When your government/country wages a war on someone, population suffers. This is not "cumulative punishment" and is not a violation of anything.

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    Let's clarify that even more. IN ADDITION to the fuel that Israel SUPPLIES to Gaza (to help them produce about 20% of their electricity), Israel also supplies 75% of Gaza's electricity DIRECTLY.

    That has not been touched.

    Further, Hamas did not have to shut down the hospitals, and fuel to para-military facilities continued unabated. It was a manufactured "crisis," that stupid Europeans and lefties bought almost completely (though, to their credit, less than before.)

    That said, it's kind of sad that Hamas, a macho organization, has to resort to obviously faking weakness and victimhood to achieve anything. They would prefer to beg and cower rather than compromise or at least just fight their enemy.

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    Now they admit it:

    Palestinian journalists: Hamas staged blackouts

    By KHALED ABU TOAMEH

    On at least two occasions this week, Hamas staged scenes of darkness as part of its campaign to end the political and economic sanctions against the Gaza Strip, Palestinian journalists said Wednesday.

    In the first case, journalists who were invited to cover the Hamas government meeting were surprised to see Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh and his ministers sitting around a table with burning candles.

    In the second case on Tuesday, journalists noticed that Hamas legislators who were meeting in Gaza City also sat in front of burning candles.

    But some of the journalists noticed that there was actually no need for the candles because both meetings were being held in daylight.

    "They had closed the curtains in the rooms to create the impression that Hamas leaders were also suffering as a result of the power stoppage," one journalist told The Jerusalem Post. "It was obvious that the whole thing was staged."

    Another journalist said he and his colleagues were told to wait for a few minutes before entering the chamber of the Palestinian Legislative Council so that each legislator would have time to light his candle. He said that when he saw that the curtains had been closed to prevent the light from entering, he realized that Hamas was trying to manipulate the media for political gain.
    source: http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satelli...cle%2FShowFull

    Amazingly, no word of it in any of the US mass media outlets. Yet the stories claiming a blackout were published everywhere from AP/Reuters/AFP-fed web sites like Yahoo to Time and BBC. Not a single media source published anything on their front pages about this being a big fat lie.

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    Fake article gets republished all over, stirs a row in the Arab media.

    Hebrew was never less popular in Egypt

    According to Arab media outlet, Israeli ambassador to Cairo called for inclusion of Hebrew classes in Egyptian school curriculum; Israeli Foreign Ministry says comment were never made Roee Nahmias Published: 02.11.08, 12:33 / Israel News

    The Egyptian political world is once again up in arms against Israel. The reason this time: A declaration that was attributed to Israeli ambassador to Egypt, Shalom Cohen, in which he purportedly called for the inclusion of Hebrew classes in the official Egyptian school curriculum.

    The alleged comments appear to have been published in Egyptian newspapers and from there they were taken by the al-Jazeera news network. According to the report, "Ambassador Cohen claimed that the Camp David Accords include a clause that mandates the inclusion of Hebrew in the Egyptian educational program." That seems to have been enough to reignite the fire of fury against Israel. This alleged remark has drawn fire from opposition politicians in Egypt, namely from the Muslim Brotherhood. The group has called for the Egyptian government to officially declare that it rejects this request because it deviates from common norms and damages Egyptian sovereignty.

    'Hebrew is an artificial language'

    Egyptian academics have not remained on the sidelines on this matter. "Cohen's request is a new humiliation for Egypt, its government and nation," Dr. Abdul Wahab al-Masri, an English literature lecturer, said on al-Jazeera.

    "The Hebrew language is an artificial language taken from the past and even Israeli writers suffer from a lack of interest in writing it and (Hebrew articles) are usually translated into foreign languages," al-Masri said.

    He added that the study of Hebrew must be completely prevented in junior colleges and other institutions and that it should only be taught to students in at the highest levels of education."We don't want to give this language the power that it doesn't deserve. It is enough for us that people will learn it in master's degrees and doctorates in the social sciences and this is only in order to become acquainted with Israeli society in order to know the enemy."

    Israeli political officials denied the report in conversations with Ynet and claimed that Ambassador Cohen had never made the alleged remarks. "This is the continuation of a report by an Egyptian newspaper that we have already refuted in the past," the head of Arabic communications in the Foreign Ministry, Amira Oron said.

    "We’re talking about a multi-year agenda that has unfortunately become the routine. We're dealing with a phenomenon that is intended to create a negative image of Israel," Oron added.

    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7...505339,00.html

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