I'm fairly new to this forum, and appreciate the responses to my posts, whatever disagreement there may be.
I wanted to propose something. This thread is entitled "Peace Think Tank", yet it seems to be composed primarly of arguments (in which I, admittedly, have participated) regarding who are the bad guys, who is right, ect . . .
Would anyone be interested in actually preposing some concrete suggestions for a long term solution here ? I know that it is difficult considering the large differences in opinions re: factual history. But throughout history, even those engaged in murderous war with each other have realized that they must
forge some sort of truce or both sides will suffer more - - regardless of how close each side believes they are "right."
I propose for purposes of discussion of solutions that we all accept certain things as "facts" - - not because we want to, or necessarily in fact, agree with them, but, but because (as in the case of warring countries who have forged peace agreements) one has to look to the immediate and long term future, not the past. Pretend we are "emergency room doctors" and the patient has been in a horrible accident and will die if we don't get creative. It doesn't matter how the accident befell him, or whether he was at fault or not. Can we save the patient ?
1. There are a large number of Arab people living in the Gaza Strip and the West bank who are not prospering and need a better life.
2. The West Bank and Gaza Arabs referred to in #1 need hope, and need to see immediate steps being taken towards the development of a stable, responsible, and prosperous society.
3. At least part of the foreign aid directed to the area, has, for whatever reason, not always been put to the most efficient use in order to develop the region economically or socially.
4. The U.S. and other foreign countries will increase aid to the region if, it in fact, it will be put directly to use to immediately begin developing the region economically and socially.
5. Both the Jews and the Arabs have historical links to some or all parts of the area.
6. Both the Jews and the Arabs have attached religious significance to one or more sites in the area.
7. Isreal is a nation, a soveriegn.
8. Isreal has the right to protect itself and its citizens against attack and murder.
9. Many West Bank and Gaza Arabs assert a right to occupation AND/OR ownership of not only the West Bank and Gaza, but to the land occupied by Israel proper.
10. With respect to #9, there are a significant amount of Arabs in the region who would accept the establishment of a "Palestinian" state in the West Bank area, and recognize the existance of Israel.
11. Either a combination of certain factors, or all of the factors set forth below (A - H) poses an actual threat to Isreal's security:
A. There are either a significant amount of Arabs and/or organized militant groups of Arabs, who want to see the establishment of an Islamic state encompassing all of the territories, including Isreal proper.
B. With respect to factor A, there are one or more militant groups in the region, who have publicly asserted thaty they will continue to attack Isreali and/or it's citizens, even after the development of a Palestinian state, with the intention of replacing Israel with an Islamic state.
C. One or more of these groups referred to factor A, and/or the nation or nations it/they have associations with and/or receive support from, have publicly dissemiated anti-Jewish and/or anti- Isreali propoganda, intended to incite hatred for Isreal and/or the Jews.
D. The hate propoganda has, at one time or another, been either been taught in one or more West Bank and/or Gaza Arab schools and/or mosques and/or broadcast through one or more public media, such as radio broadcast or television or newspapers or magazines, thus reaching some, or many, or most Arabs living in the West Bank or Gaza.
E. One or more of the militant groups referred to in factor A have some form of association, either direct or indirect,with one or more Arab nations in the Middle East.
F. There are one or more other terror groups from the Middle East who has/have advocated the killing of innocent civilians in the United States and Isreal, and has/have demonstrated the willingness to put such advocacy into action through the recent killing of innocent civilians in the United States on 9/11/01.
G. One or more terror groups in the Middle East may soon have access to one or more forms of a "Weapon of Mass Destruction" - - whether it be nuclear, chemical, or otherwise.
H. One or more nations in the Middle East wish to see the elimination of Isreal, and one or more of such nations is/are currently attempting to develop "Weapons of Mass Destruction" that could be used against Isreal.
13. Isreal as an entity, cannot accept the continued killing of its non-combatant civilian population.
14. Isreal, as a soveriegn state, cannot accept the elimination of itself as an entity.
15. There are a large of number of Israeli's and Jews throughout the world that would accept the development of a Palestinian state if it did not pose a security threat to Isreal itself or it's citizens.
SUGGESTION: WHAT ARE CONCRETE, REALISTIC TERMS NOT JUST FOR PEACE, BUT FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF A PEACEFUL, RESPONSIBLE, SECURE, AND PROSPEROUS PALESTINIAN STATE ?REMEMBER, WE NEED TO ATTEMPT TO (1) AVOID THE QUAGMIRE OF WHOSE RIGHT/WHOSE WRONG, AND (2) WE NEED CONCRETE,
(3) WE NEED BOTH AN IMMEDIATE SHORT-TERM, AS WELL AS LONG TERM SOLUTION.
What do you guys think ?