Arab Israeli / Jews Israeli...

[goliath]

If you were an Arab Isaeli ,let say a young one , how could you imagine your future..?
If you were a Jew Israeli , what could be your perspective ...?
If you were a religious Jew or Muslim ,what should be your analyse of the actual situation ,and the one for the next 50 years...?
Religion,faith are very important for both Muslim and Jews , a real deep agreement can't be avoided ,in which way,in order to give satisfaction to everyone , the secular people included..?
I really would like to have your opinion on those points...

[goliath]

Case close....as a friend of mine could say....
See..sometimes ..unconvenient question ..get no answer... cool....
Does it exist any Jewish people reading anything on that "place"....??
What about Demography in Israel ? The Arab demography it's running ,and the Jewish one it's a very slow one ...so? nothing? Please ask to Yitsaak Shamir ...The great little man...(ex chiel of Mossad.).

As we say , to stupid demand , silly answer....

[goliath]

None have an idea concerning the future of the two main component of Israeli national....
2/3 are Jewish...
1/3 is Arab ....

Arab leaders can stand a Jewish country...They wants to destroy Israel...
So , what could be the solution ?
Are we been patient enough..?
Arab demography growing it's running , shall we become a halfcast country..? ...or worse..?

[ernesto]

Hey Goliath , I hate to a see a man talking to himself.

You make reference to a halfcast country "or worse" , this is of course undiluted racism. But also honest straight forward , racism which is refreshing.
Israeli Arabs are either Israelis or not Israelis, you cant have it everyway. In a democracy all citizens are equally cherished by the nation. You cannot have subdivision therein, not in democracy. So if the Arab Israeli population overtake by tenfold the Non Arab Israeli population , it will still be a great day for Israel. Perhaps it will lead to Israel being greatly loved by it's Arab neighbours in the future.
What do you think ?

[Mira]

So if the Arab Israeli population overtake by tenfold the Non Arab Israeli population , it will still be a great day for Israel. Perhaps it will lead to Israel being greatly loved by it's Arab neighbours in the future.
What do you think ?

Yes...Israel will be a house of peace when it is overtaken by Muslims...and the rest of the world will join Israel in peace when the nations submit to Islamic rule. A great day indeed! I alread saw that movie only it was called Return of the Sith.

Why is it that the Arabs got so much land after the fall of the Ottoman Empire, the Jews have to fight for a tiny little piece of our historic homeland and the Kurds got absolutely nothing? Everybody feels so guilty about not giving the Arabs (in particular the Muslim Arabs) even more land???? Suckers!

[KettleWhistle]

Hey Goliath , I hate to a see a man talking to himself.

You make reference to a halfcast country "or worse" , this is of course undiluted racism. But also honest straight forward , racism which is refreshing.
Israeli Arabs are either Israelis or not Israelis, you cant have it everyway. In a democracy all citizens are equally cherished by the nation. You cannot have subdivision therein, not in democracy. So if the Arab Israeli population overtake by tenfold the Non Arab Israeli population , it will still be a great day for Israel. Perhaps it will lead to Israel being greatly loved by it's Arab neighbours in the future.
What do you think ?

Wrong. This is in no way racism, especially since Jews and Arabs are of the same "race." Israel is a nation-state, and a Jewish state at that. It isn't an Arab state. Arabs do not belong there, just like Jews who live in foreign nation-state countries do not belong there. Every nation-state has the right to protect its national and cultural identity, and Israel is no exception, despite the attempts to make it one.

[ernesto]

This thread is about the demographic of Arab and non - Arab-Israelis and the implications for the character of Israel should the demographic tip toward an Arab Majority. An Israeli is an Israel Black , White , Yellow, Male, Female, Muslim, Christian, Jew, Agnostic.
You cannot claim to be aspiring to democracy in one case and then draw limitations on the rights or prerogatives of any group of citizens who live in that democracy that you do not equally apply to all citizens. Not unless you are racist.
But this is not why I called Goliaths thread racist.
I called it racist because he has drawn a different line. He has said that an infusion of ethnic strains within Israel leads to "half casts" or "worse".
This is classic supremacy doctrine.

Compare this to a French man saying that he does not want his daughter marrying a black man. Not even a full-blown French citizen with a Bank managers job type black man. It may be alright with his white French buddies who agree, But it is racism.

[minusthejihad]

You're arguement is way too simplistic. You should look up what racist means first.

Why do you beat your wife? It's very wrong by the way.

[ernesto]

If it is too simplistic , then why dont you simply deal with it ?

[minusthejihad]

Your garbage has been dealt with in a number of posts, simply use your brilliance and the search function, that's what it is there for.

What? Did you think you were the first idiotarian with this genius talking point? Ever heard of Sue Blackwell?

[ernesto]

I have used the search function, its called the world . The world tells me that you have not answered anything, just ranted, Carry on ranting.

What I have said , remains.

[minusthejihad]

Um, Ok. Whatever you say big guy. Tell the world hello for me oh mighty one!

[ernesto]

Hello World.

Mr Jihadless, I sense you might feel more comfortable talking about your latest paper folding project. I'll listen, promise.

[ernesto]

Minus,


2, 837 Posts?

It think you should get a job in BK or something, I have no doubt youll make employee of the month within three weeks (Ill put in a good word.).

Goliath

Your post is undiluted racism..

[Reffo]

So if the Arab Israeli population overtake by tenfold the Non Arab Israeli population , it will still be a great day for Israel. Perhaps it will lead to Israel being greatly loved by it's Arab neighbours in the future.
What do you think ?

Firstly, let me say that Israel's current population is multi ethnic multi religious already. About 20% of it's citizens are Arabs (most of which are Muslim) and they are full citizens with full rights. So, Israel is NOT a racist country. So you might ask why are Jews exhibiting what you call racist attitudes by worrying about "the demographic threat" ? Well, I tell you that it's NOT racism but rather it's a fear of what might happen to them as a result. I put it to you that it's a well founded fear based on historical reality of how Jews were/are treated in Arab countries who truly practice racism against Jews. It's based on the diet of hate and incitement against Jews of Arab societies. It's based on Jewish history when they were minorities in societies that preached hate against Jews and the consequences of such hate. It's based on the experience of countries such as Rwanda, Yugoslavia and Sudan where hate crimes and/or genocide was committed by one ethnic group against against the other as a result of long standing ethnic hatreds in those countries. You might say that Israel is already multi ethnic yet it's Jewish and Arab citizens don't kill each other on wholescale and I would tell you that this proves that Jews (as a people) are NOT racists because it does not happen while they are in the majority.