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    Youre still french so i can still hate you.

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    If that's what Jesus would do then hey, why not.
    As a youth I used to weep in butcher's shops.

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    I sometimes wonder about the thought processes inside big wealthy popular top down organizations that single out one tiny group unrelated to them and their operations to make a huge noise about what a threat they are.

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    Then we got catholics like you, that wait for the popes speech to know what god wants you to do. And hope that the lord and saviour benedict XII will grant you acces to heaven instead of excommunition.

    Why dont you do like the catholics before you and dig up saints bodies and worshipp them?

    Just to let you know most catholics don't really think the pope can send them to hell, I certainly don't. By the way I have never worshiped bones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunther View Post
    Then we got catholics like you, that wait for the popes speech to know what god wants you to do. And hope that the lord and saviour benedict XII will grant you acces to heaven instead of excommunition.

    Why dont you do like the catholics before you and dig up saints bodies and worshipp them?

    Just to let you know most catholics don't really think the pope can send them to hell, I certainly don't. By the way I have never worshiped bones.
    You havent, cause most catholics today are like most muslims today. Claiming islam is peacefull and catholism is monotheistic.

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    Has everybody seen the Easter South Park episode with Bill Donohue and the Catholic Ninjas? Funny with a big F.
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    Re: Stop The United Church Of Christ's Anti-israel Resolutions

    As I'm not able to open a new thread, I post it here:

    For christians only, unfortunately (I hope there are some here):
    Petition against Williamson & Co. or "For the full recognition of the decrees of the Second Vatican Council"
    This council (1965) established that the Jews cannot be charged of deicide, they must not be converted, freedom of religion etc. …
    But read yourself (I am not an ititiator of the petition, I fund it accidentally)
    http://www.petition-vaticanum2.org/pageID_7327623.html
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    Last edited by Castoro; 02-15-2009 at 10:50 AM. Reason: Petition against Williamson & Co.

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    Re: Stop The United Church Of Christ's Anti-israel Resolutions

    er... this is a strange thread to start posting... did you take a gander at it?

    good post though

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    Re: Stop The United Church Of Christ's Anti-israel Resolutions

    Quote Originally Posted by bararallu View Post
    er... this is a strange thread to start posting... did you take a gander at it?

    good post though
    I don't understand "to take a gander at it" (my bad English), but if you think it's a good post, than that's fine.
    And "strange thread" or not - I don't know where to place it elsewhere; I would open a new thread, but am not allowed to.
    (P.S. Feel free to open a new thread with it if you may.)

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    Re: Stop The United Church Of Christ's Anti-israel Resolutions

    Quote Originally Posted by Castoro View Post
    I don't understand "to take a gander at it" (my bad English), but if you think it's a good post, than that's fine.
    And "strange thread" or not - I don't know where to place it elsewhere; I would open a new thread, but am not allowed to.
    (P.S. Feel free to open a new thread with it if you may.)
    It's ok... gander means read through it... it really took a bad turn somewhere, Christians started attacking each other over virtually nothing. Oh well. Thanks for the post and welcome to the forum. Are you Swiss?

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    Re: Stop The United Church Of Christ's Anti-israel Resolutions

    Quote Originally Posted by bararallu View Post
    ... it really took a bad turn somewhere, Christians started attacking each other over virtually nothing.
    Yes I know. The Jews do nothing and only want to live and to let be in peace, but a Christian starts: "The Jews are bad", and an other Christian: "No, they are good", and the battle begins. It's all an "intern" christian quarrel, but than you hear that ultimately it's all "because of the Jews". But I don't feel so, the Jews have nothing to do with it at all, it's a problem of the Christians only - and the Jews are those who pay for it.

    But do you think it would be better to simply ignore what the Vatican does? It's not only this Williamson, it's almost the whole Church who is deeply anti-semitic, with many exceptions of course, but the Church was and is the biggest promoter of Jew-hatred. I read a few articles in the catholic press recently (not only from this Pius Brotherhood), about the "bloodthirsty" Israelis and so …
    Would it be better to be silent? Do you think people than would hear less of the anti-jewish diatribes and let the Jews more in peace?

    You see? Now I ask you (I think you are Jewish?) - so than YOU are the responsible …

    I'm not Swiss, my parents are Italians who came to work to Switzerland decades ago, and I was born and spent my whole life here - so perhaps I'm also a little Swiss …

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    Re: Stop The United Church Of Christ's Anti-israel Resolutions

    Quote Originally Posted by Castoro View Post
    Yes I know. The Jews do nothing and only want to live and to let be in peace, but a Christian starts: "The Jews are bad", and an other Christian: "No, they are good", and the battle begins. It's all an "intern" christian quarrel, but than you hear that ultimately it's all "because of the Jews". But I don't feel so, the Jews have nothing to do with it at all, it's a problem of the Christians only - and the Jews are those who pay for it.

    But do you think it would be better to simply ignore what the Vatican does? It's not only this Williamson, it's almost the whole Church who is deeply anti-semitic, with many exceptions of course, but the Church was and is the biggest promoter of Jew-hatred. I read a few articles in the Catholic press recently (not only from this Pius Brotherhood), about the "bloodthirsty" Israelis and so …
    Would it be better to be silent? Do you think people than would hear less of the anti-jewish diatribes and let the Jews more in peace?

    You see? Now I ask you (I think you are Jewish?) - so than YOU are the responsible …

    I'm not Swiss, my parents are Italians who came to work to Switzerland decades ago, and I was born and spent my whole life here - so perhaps I'm also a little Swiss …
    If I remember correctly in a recent poll in Europe about Jews/Israel shows that only 20-25% of people have any theological issues with Jews. I haven't correlated that with how many actual religious people are left in Europe these days, esp Western Europe. I think on the issue of Israel there are Christian, and even Catholic supporters of Israel, and some of them are not very friendly toward Jews, and even Jews in their countries. It's an enemy of my enemy sort of situation. I'm also a little skeptical with far right West European parties that have been parroting some pro Israel stuff while internally they are very anti-Semitic- not a religious issue, per se, but there are a lot of practicing Catholics, for instance, that vote Le Pen.

    We've also had pretty good personal relationship with Italians, including my family that went through Rome coming from the USSR to the US, Israel and other places. A marked difference to what we felt in Vienna, where we also stayed for some weeks.

    and yes I'm Jewish/Israeli- not religious though.

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    Re: Stop The United Church Of Christ's Anti-israel Resolutions

    A lot of Jews are not aware of the changes taking place within Christian circles. A lot of mainline Protestant denominations are turning emergent or merging with New Age spirituality. They say they're not opposed to Jews, but want to free Christianity from Jewish influences such as the Old Testament and Monotheism. They think Christianity has been bad because of Orthodox Judaism.

    The ADL blamed their anti-Judaism on interpretations of the New Testament without investigating what's really on with these people.

    There are several Evangelical groups too now adopting the views of the Emergent church.

    There are three kinds of Catholics, the conservative wackos like Williamson, even though his group is not in full communion with Rome. And the Liberal wackos who hate Israel. Orthodox Catholics are stuck in the middle of these groups who claim they speak for us.

    Conservative and Liberal Catholics are both un-faithful to the teachings of the Church and would rather create their own church.

    If Jews are looking for a Catholic "press", they need to look for Orthodox ones, and avoid both conservative and liberal sources.

    The emergent church wants to establish a One-World Church that will merge with a One-World Marxist-Socialist Government. Obama and friends are working hard to mix the Christian New Age Left and Leftist Politics.

    There are both Protestants and Catholics watching the Emergent church with horror, while many Jews continue to remain in the dark about everything that's going on.

    I started the New Age thread to inform Jews about these developments.

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    Re: Stop The United Church Of Christ's Anti-israel Resolutions

    @bararallu
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    I read your posts, but I'm too busy now to answer (too much silly work when there are much more interesting issues to discuss …). And I can't answer in two words, so I'll return here next weekend when I have plenty of time.

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    Re: Stop The United Church Of Christ's Anti-israel Resolutions

    Jesus is Hindu..........
    You know he came to INDIA....learned a bit of yoga...some meditation...you know...

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