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    atricnorth
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    can the serbs be israelian allies?

    just wondering, can the serbs be israelian allies? is it possible since they also have fought albanian and croat muslims?

    muslim rebels from arab coutries allied with croats and bosnian muslims against the serbs.

    the link below is to indicate the croat and the bosnians who fought against serbs

    from the link below

    The Kosovo Liberation Army is alleged by Serbia to include about 1,000 foreign mercenaries from Albania, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Afghanistan, Bosnia and Herzegovina (Muslims) and Croatia. Among the mercenaries it is alleged that there also British and German instructors

    http://www.fas.org/irp/world/para/kla.htm

    most serbs are either catholic or orthodox protestants.

    should we have israel with serbs in together against terrorists?

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    FOGOMAINS
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    Quote Originally Posted by atricnorth
    just wondering, can the serbs be israelian allies? is it possible since they also have fought albanian and croat muslims?

    muslim rebels from arab coutries allied with croats and bosnian muslims against the serbs.

    the link below is to indicate the croat and the bosnians who fought against serbs

    from the link below

    The Kosovo Liberation Army is alleged by Serbia to include about 1,000 foreign mercenaries from Albania, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Afghanistan, Bosnia and Herzegovina (Muslims) and Croatia. Among the mercenaries it is alleged that there also British and German instructors

    http://www.fas.org/irp/world/para/kla.htm

    most serbs are either catholic or orthodox protestants.

    should we have israel with serbs in together against terrorists?
    "The Kosovo Liberation Army" is not a Liberation Army but the head of organized crime. I hate the day when our government granted asylum for Kosovo Albanians. The crime rate here increased dramatically.

    The Serbs are true christians. Just saw a documentary about the 8000 murdered Bosnians. The Vatican must be proud

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    Does Israel really need problematic allies like this?

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    contrary to your opinion, have u seen more non christian, jews or atheists murdered by muslims or the other way round.

    honestly, i chose the serbs. i rather have them completing the job in chechyna or palestine than negotiation or peace treaties which are a no go.

    in comparison to the 8000 you saw murdered in Srebrenica or other places during the war, do you think these terrorists activities are more significant such as the total of israelians killed since the war of independence combine with the iraq war, the russian with the chechen rebels, madrid train bombings and the bali bombing.

    the road to which you want to take Bosnia and Herzegovina is the same highway of hell which Slovenia and Croatia took. Don't think you won't take Bosnia and Herzegovina to hell and the Muslims into annihilation... Muslims can't defend themselves if there is war here"... (Karadžić speaking at the Bosnian parliament, March 4, 1992)

    if not mediocrates, who else, the US is one and india. one more is better than having more enemies, even radical ones.

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    Oh I dunno it can't be that everyone else in the world is viewed as a worse evil incarnate, can it? You have to love your allies you need to understand one another's shared strategic interests. what about Thailand, the Philippines, Singapore and Chile? What about Mexico or South Korea?

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    Jews have no quarels, whatsoever, with the Albanians, and don't need to have any with the people who have always been friendly and decent towards us. It is a mistake to make the Arab-Israeli/Jewish conflict about religion. The conflict is between Jews and some (not even all) Arabs. Not between Jews and Muslims. It is just that Arabs managed to pull other Muslims into the conflict that is no concern of theirs. The Israeli Left has been helpful in worstening this. To their credit, so far Albanians has been on the more sober side of the affairs.

    And the whole Kosovo business isn't a religious conflict either. It is about conflicting national ambitions of two different peoples. And I have no problems with Sebs' efforts to take and defend Kosovo. But that's between Serbs and Albanians, and they, not NATO, UN, or anyone else, should be resolving it.

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    honestly....atricnorth, u'r a true terrorist!!!
    n u proud 'bout the bosnian's genocide?...u call muslims terrorist when many of them fight against terrorist itself!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by atricnorth
    just wondering, can the serbs be israelian allies? is it possible since they also have fought albanian and croat muslims?

    muslim rebels from arab coutries allied with croats and bosnian muslims against the serbs.

    the link below is to indicate the croat and the bosnians who fought against serbs

    from the link below

    The Kosovo Liberation Army is alleged by Serbia to include about 1,000 foreign mercenaries from Albania, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Afghanistan, Bosnia and Herzegovina (Muslims) and Croatia. Among the mercenaries it is alleged that there also British and German instructors

    http://www.fas.org/irp/world/para/kla.htm

    most serbs are either catholic or orthodox protestants.

    should we have israel with serbs in together against terrorists?
    The Yugoslavian conflict is a continuation of more basic ethnic conflict since WWII, and possibly predated in centuries even that.

    In WWII, there were many Jews fighting among the (largely) Serb partizans, among Tito's men. The Albanians, where on the Nazis and Croat's side, butchering Serb civilians.

    The Serbs are natural allies for us, but not in this juncture. The Serbs as always, relay (falsely) on their Russian brothers. The last time the Russians came to the Serb's rescure opened WWI. Israel cannot be on the Serb's side before the Russians will side withus.

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    In terms of brutuality and human right abuses in the balkans, the Serbs and Muslims were as bad as the other -- yet the world and the media over looked muslim brutality and continuallycast them as the victim. they werent and by saying that I'm not implying that the serbs were victims nor angels for that matter either.



    But Western intervention in the Balkans and siding with Muslims were not in our long term interests and nows its an Al-Queda breeding ground and not just any breeding ground but one of their PRIMARY breeding grounds.

    It has to be noted that Muslim brutality, war crimes and extremisim in had its roots in the Second world war, when they sided with the Nazis and had their own specially made Muslim SS untis who went around murdering thousands of Jews, gypsies and Serbs.

    Like it or not the Serbs - who are traditionally antisemitic as most Slavic people are - are our allies.

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    Tito's number #1 was Moshe Pijade; who was Jewish.

    But generally speaking Israel should stay away from the Balkans; Muslim and Serbs aside. The conflict in former Yugoslavia is not just religious but runs along historic, nationalistic, ethnic, cultural, economic and other lines.... Getting itself involved in the mess is not the best of idea.

    However, I do know that 99% of all the Russian (Jews included) speakers, including those in israel, strongly opposed action against Serbia.
    Mil - stands for the countless MILlions of reasons not to work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by atricnorth
    just wondering, can the serbs be israelian allies? is it possible since they also have fought albanian and croat muslims?
    ...............
    you are talking about your allies... sometimes it takes hundred years for to be a strong and believable ally. this kind articles and polemics are just unrealistic and empty. i say, just forget. anti nato, anti un, (also Saddamist) especially anti American Serbia can not be... you enjoyed this article because Bosnians and kosovons are muslims...

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    Quote Originally Posted by atricnorth
    just wondering, can the serbs be israelian allies? is it possible since they also have fought albanian and croat muslims?

    muslim rebels from arab coutries allied with croats and bosnian muslims against the serbs.

    the link below is to indicate the croat and the bosnians who fought against serbs

    from the link below

    The Kosovo Liberation Army is alleged by Serbia to include about 1,000 foreign mercenaries from Albania, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Afghanistan, Bosnia and Herzegovina (Muslims) and Croatia. Among the mercenaries it is alleged that there also British and German instructors

    http://www.fas.org/irp/world/para/kla.htm

    most serbs are either catholic or orthodox protestants.

    should we have israel with serbs in together against terrorists?
    You are totaly confused...
    Serbs didn`t fought croatian muslims becouse ther`s no croatian muslims.
    All Croats (98%) are catholics.
    They did attack Croatia (1991) and Bosnia-Herzegovina (1992-1995) and at the end,Kosovo (1999).
    They are responible for Europa`s only after-WW2 genocide (Srebrenica,east Bosnia 1995),what indicates that you (atricnorth) can make ally
    with Rwanda`s Tuzis as well.

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    [QUOTE=Leon]In terms of brutuality and human right abuses in the balkans, the Serbs and Muslims were as bad as the other -- yet the world and the media over looked muslim brutality and continuallycast them as the victim. they werent and by saying that I'm not implying that the serbs were victims nor angels for that matter either.

    Do you have your own facts and numbers that other`s don`t or you just guess these words of yours could be true...
    Come on then,write me,why you think that world and media over looked Bosniaks (muslims) brutality and continally cast them as the victims?
    I`m calling you,be my guest in Bosnia,make sure your opinion is correct.

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    atricnorth
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    to all

    i guess i was trigger happy to jump into conclusions, forgive me, my apologies.

    the thing is that, no matter what happens to withdrawal, the palestinians want more than the gaza and the west bank.

    i guess my suggestion was just to end the problem once and for all.

    anyway, i guess israel can handle it well. he delivered israel from egyptians, the babylonians and the nazis, god will deliver israel from this conflict.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FOGOMAINS
    "The Kosovo Liberation Army" is not a Liberation Army but the head of organized crime. I hate the day when our government granted asylum for Kosovo Albanians. The crime rate here increased dramatically.

    The Serbs are true christians. Just saw a documentary about the 8000 murdered Bosnians. The Vatican must be proud
    Serbs don't care for tha Vatican. All parties committed crimes in this conflict, yet the one-sided anti-Serbian attitude and propaganda of the West was not justified. Bosnians and Albanians were treated as poor victims which they certainly weren't. Albanians started the conflict and today the real victims of etnic cleansing are Serbs, hardly protected by a weak and ineffective NATO-force in Kosovo. I noticed in Israel some sympathy for the Serbs, but not among American Jews. In Russia, Macedonia, Bulgaria and Greece very large demonstrations took place against the NATO-aggression.

    And, yes, Albanians give all Eastern Europeans a bad name, the UCK was largely sponsered by crime money originating in Europe and the US.

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